New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

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Only disappointment is still separate versions for AT&T and Verizon.... especially given that the iPhone 4S has GSM (AT&T, rest of world) and CDMA (Verizon) chips in the same phone, I was hoping for a all-in-one GSM/CDMA/LTE device where I could choose change carriers if I travel or move to an area where one has better coverage.

No word on iPad carrier availability for outside of US and Canada? And what's with 4G not working in other countries or when roaming?

everything else is secondary (Lee626), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

Change between first gen iPad and second: camera, faster processor, magnets in the side for a cover. Between second and third: better camera, higher res screen, faster processor.

These are really incremental, the only big diff is software which tends to be usable on the last generation or two anyway. You really just have devices that get updates and those that don't.

all true, but those specs are married to the form factor. I can't order an ipad 1 with a faster processor, so I kind of need to know what I'm getting besides "new ipad". there are apps which just don't run very well on the first ipad due to processing speed issues (e.g. RDP apps), even with the latest OS.

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

Well sure, there are still model numbers to refer to -- it's clumsy but they tend to say "Spring 2010 iMac" or refer to the model number like "1,1" or "5,2" or whatever.

iPhones and iPads have those numbers, too

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

Plus it's still "the third-generation iPad"

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

OR IS IT

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

they're still burning from when they called a product the "iPhone 3G" and then realized they'd doomed their naming scheme forever

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

next one will be called ipad 4thG 4G 4D with LTE

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

that's better than iPad Vista

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

iPad 3 LTE HD

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

ipad 3D taco unicorn

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

The connection has timed out

The server at store.apple.com is taking too long to respond.

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

ipad 3D taco unicorn

this sounds like an Adult Swim game

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

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Don't know why no one else can match the Apple user experience or w/e.

In part, because nobody but Apple makes the "entire widget" - an Apple device with an Apple CPU and GPU running an Apple operating system. Android and Windows have to run on a whole slew of divergent devices made by numerous companies, none of which are Google or Microsoft. It's alot easier writing an good OS when it only has to work on one or two devices made by the same company.

everything else is secondary (Lee626), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

also patents

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

the other challenge that competitors face is matching apple's product costs. it sounds weird because the ipad costs more than the fire, but if the fire had the ipad's specs it would cost a lot more than an ipad. similar to the influence mcdonald's has over the commodity price of potatoes, apple is wielding a huge amount of power when it comes to the R&D and production of mobile components, even shipping routes. for instance:
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/05/apples-ipad-3-launch-putting-squeeze-on-freight-shipments-from-china/

apple's total control of the tablet supply chain is really what's going to keep them in the catbird's seat for at least a few years. that and the massive app library they've got going.

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

All iPads have dropped in price here, $40 off the cheapest one

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

iPad 2 £329; iPad 16gb £399 here.

Shows what a total scam the iPhone prices are. They add on what they know they'll get back in carrier subsidy, so the user doesn't actually get a cheaper device at all.

stet, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

guys, its name is literally "the new ipad"

markers, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.apple.com/apple-events/march-2012/

markers, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

i have no need to replace my ipad2 but man that screen looks dope

catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

guys, its name is literally "the new ipad"

― markers, Wednesday, March 7, 2012 3:19 PM (2 minutes ago)

what's its name gonna be next year

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

next year gbx will have to say "i have no need to replace my new ipad but man that screen on the new new ipad looks dope"

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

guys, its name is literally "the new ipad"

The New Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show of computing as well as the Ford Taurus.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

A lot of the components used in an iPhone or iPad are just unavailable to other companies, due to Apple purchasing the entire supply or ownership of key assets.

On the other hand, a lot of materials and processes that haven't traditionally been used in consumer electronics have caught on due to Apple. Corning's Gorilla Glass being the most obvious example. Developed in the 1960s, virtually mothballed for several decades, and now in 20% of the world's mobile handsets and back in active development.

The aluminum machining on Macbooks that makes it possible to have a one-piece case another example.

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

THE NEWER IPAD

markers, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

guys I got a peek at apple's product roadmap, the new new new ipad is going to blow your mind

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

The nude iPad

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

iPad spock

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

I enjoyed the claim during the launch that ipad is the consumer's favorite device for email. email on the ipad is a total abortion.

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

"favorite" meaning they read a shitload of email on it, maybe

My coworkers sure like to respond to email during meetings on theirs

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

it's like saying my favorite browser is the one on my phone because I use it a lot

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

butthurt comments over milquetoast headline

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/08/technology/apple-updates-ipad-with-some-refinements.html

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

apple store is responding now...

Choose a network carrier.

Your iPad will work only with the carrier you choose.

AT&T Delivers on March 16
AT&T Delivers on March 16

Both the ATT and Verizon model of iPad can roam worldwide on GSM/UMTS networks. In countries without compatible 4G LTE networks, the new iPad will operate on GSM network technologies such as HSPA+ and DC-HSDPA. When you travel internationally, you can use a micro-SIM card from a local carrier.

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

currently installing ios 5.1, my first wifi OS update

I'll let you know later if this was an error in judgment

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

Still can't get to the pre-order page. Apple enjoys making nerds obsessively refresh, hoping they can get through, don't they?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

Anybody know what the EPP discount on the new iPad is?

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

oh shit I forgot to check out through eppstore

just a sec, I will check and then register my annoyance

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

2% xp

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

"starting at $489"

prices range $489 - $812 instead of whatever. So, probably between $10 and $17.

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17fqc0frxeonojpg/original.jpg

Some kind of new new Apple logo. Next year's will have a retina display, though.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

can't decide if the last/new or the Aqua (middle) logo is the worst

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

That middle looks more like graphite. I <3 graphite. 4 is the worst imo

stet, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

I like new one

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

the new one doesn't really read for me as a whole object. the first two are obviously the best.

jed_, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

The new one looks like one of Andy Warhol's urine paintings.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

Is this actually a new logo, orjustone they messed with for the slides? They have done that a lot in the past, including for all the iPod ads.

Apple legal's logo is still the all-red one they used to use on manuals, too.

stet, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

Ordered the 64 GB this time, fuggit

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

If they really wanted to be retro they could go back to their original logo effort:

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/192/192533/19253367/jpg/active/320x.jpg

everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

what would be the resolution of a 15" retina screen?

the late great, Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:29 (twelve years ago) link

new one isn't a whole object, it only becomes whole on the side of an Apple product

namaste

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link


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