The purpose built next generation interstellar Dawn Richard thread

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"6000 sistas" = female WAKA

its monomania can be a bit much but i bet it sounds amazing when you're drunk. MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY COIN COIN GUAP

lex pretend, Friday, 9 March 2012 09:42 (twelve years ago) link

most unmemorable song is "feeling good" - i'm sure i remember "the ladder" as being good? it def all goes up a notch at "matte black truck", from there to the end it's pretty flawless

lex pretend, Friday, 9 March 2012 09:42 (twelve years ago) link

Sure, but Dawn/Dirty Money seem better at swiping ideas from dance music than Kingdom is at swiping ideas from R&B

Not really interested in Kingdom wrt this debate but I think part of the problem with the danceification of R&B is that singers and songwriters haven't really got to grips with how the artists should sing over it*. DDM aren't immune from this, one of the reasons I don't rate Ass On The Floor as highly as most people is because the singers don't really convince over the top - when they aren't singing the "madder than a motherfucker" but they don't really sound like they know what to do over that beat. You get these sort of fairly drippy, open "stirring" melodies that just don't convince up against the rest of the track, awkward halfway houses between ballad and dance banger.

Contrast to how effortless and at home Kalenna sounds over something like Matte Black Truck. Then again this may be all rolled in with post-Umbrella R&B - a lot of this stuff feels very different melodically from anything pre-2007 or therabouts, ballads included.

*This is weird given the entire history of DIVA HOUSE is pretty instructive here. Not saying R&B artists should be aping diva house at this point but it's a pretty good guide as to what kind of performance works and what doesn't.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 9 March 2012 10:11 (twelve years ago) link

Matt have you listened to "Black Lipstick" and "Change" yet?

(not that i agree with you about "ass on the floor" but...)

Tim F, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:32 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, Black Lipstick is great. Dawn's own stuff is way better in this regard than either Kalenna or DDM.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 9 March 2012 10:38 (twelve years ago) link

it's my duty to inform you that there's a napoleon dynamite sample in the kalenna mixtape

flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 9 March 2012 11:47 (twelve years ago) link

The ballad/banger tension is a lot of what's great about "Ass on the Floor"!

The Reverend, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

And like half the DDM catalog for that matter.

The Reverend, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

Chamber of Diaries is hit n miss but i like it, kinda hits that Last Train To Paris vibe more effectively for me than Tell Tale Heart. although i'm kind of weary of all the superhero-themed lyrics on both tapes.

some dude, Monday, 12 March 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

R&B mixtapes should come out with special "no-bullshit anonymous guest rappers" versions the way rap mixtapes have "no-DJ" versions

some dude, Monday, 12 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

but then you would never learn about bo deal

flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 12 March 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

lol some dude otm

The Reverend, Monday, 12 March 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

that "Gilfriend" song just sounds like an edit of Aaliyah's "Girlfriend" though, i don't hear Naomi

ahaha oops! that was dumb of me. i obv had no idea that song existed. it's so good! the vocals on the nguzu mix DO sound a hell of a lot like naomi to me, though, and the tracklist credits it to "NA", which i assumed meant N/A before alex pointed out those are naomi's initials. and the souped up beat sounds like kingdom or girl unit. now i'm really dying to know what it is exactly.

handy ban (lou), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FelGsbxq6tM

The Reverend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 06:03 (twelve years ago) link

I thought it was Kingdom/ER related too ¯\(°_o)/¯

The Reverend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 06:03 (twelve years ago) link

Whoa. I didn't know that existed! New Aaliyah. Wow. Yay.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

finally got around to the kalenna mixtape

"poison" rules

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 March 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

Preview of the new single

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1bdYextQeI

MikoMcha, Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:08 (twelve years ago) link

I have the biggest crush on dawn

flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 17 March 2012 11:46 (twelve years ago) link

(sorry for being male gaze-y)

flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 17 March 2012 12:22 (twelve years ago) link

This sounds excellent.

Tim F, Saturday, 17 March 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vBVJKF_dGU

LOVELOVELOVE HERRRR! "i wanna be in a rainforest!"

also excited to hear the #smfu remix

also producer guy is v. cute

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, 23 March 2012 07:48 (twelve years ago) link

apparently dirty money is "finished" though which is totally heartbreaking

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, 23 March 2012 07:49 (twelve years ago) link

that sucks... not entirely surprising. they put a ton of effort (and presumably) music into making that album happen, wish they would stay committed to it but the fact that 'last train to paris' even exists is some sort of miracle i think, so i can't be mad.

come on a #KONY (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 March 2012 08:00 (twelve years ago) link

presumably money**

come on a #KONY (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 March 2012 08:00 (twelve years ago) link

dawn's not signed to bad boy any more and the tone of the last kalenna interview i read ("that part of her life is BEHIND HER and she is MOVING ON") did not imply that the end of dirty money was all that amicable

lex pretend, Friday, 23 March 2012 08:29 (twelve years ago) link

also producer guy is v. cute

― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, March 23, 2012 12:48 AM Bookmark

ayo

The Reverend, Friday, 23 March 2012 08:37 (twelve years ago) link

apparently dirty money is "finished" though which is totally heartbreaking

― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, March 23, 2012 3:49 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

quit while you're on top, imo!

dayo, Friday, 23 March 2012 11:32 (twelve years ago) link

judging by the new projects, still on top tho

The Reverend, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't know you pronounce richard like ri-shard as in shard of glass

dayo, Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:54 (twelve years ago) link

wait what?

The Reverend, Saturday, 24 March 2012 10:22 (twelve years ago) link

http://youtu.be/SMpyMFtmqKM

I really can't handle her dress, it's like sean young in blade runner

dayo, Saturday, 24 March 2012 11:54 (twelve years ago) link

i feel like my perception has been altered in a deep way not experienced since i found out nancy whang's name is pronounced "wong", not "wang"

The Reverend, Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

pro tip: even when a chinese person's last name is 'wang' it's still pronounced 'wong'

dayo, Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder if that's actually "true" or just something that she's stylized like a pseudo stage name

come on a #KONY (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not gonna question somebody about the pronunciation of their name

dayo, Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

she's from louisiana tho

dayo, Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

true

come on a #KONY (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

she seems very sweet

The Reverend, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

this is almost like the time i found out o'so krispie's real name is not o'so krispie.

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

actually it's nothing like that i just felt like dropping an o'so krispie reference tbh

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

u'so krispie

flopson, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

this is sooooooooooooo good

"Heaven"!

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Monday, 26 March 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

only 2/3 through, but album of the year?

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Monday, 26 March 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

this is not on uk itunes >:(

lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

it's not on any itunes yet

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

album version of "save me from u" >>>>>>>>> og versio

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

n

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

this last track! the production is incredible throughout and the tunes are a lot better than Tell Tale Heart, which I know some people will jump on me for, but I was never that hot on

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

so jellie of you right now

dayo, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 01:06 (twelve years ago) link


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