British Habit of Fabricating Direct Quotes, Facts for Headlines So Weird
― caek, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 10:29 (twelve years ago) link
lol caek, i find the stilted precision of US headlines pretty weird
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 10:33 (twelve years ago) link
The imminent Olympics will take place in a city still recovering from riots that the Guardian-LSE Reading the Riots project showed were partly fuelled by resentment at their lavish cost
ahhhhrg
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 10:42 (twelve years ago) link
the olympics were discussed in detail at the pre-riot meetings
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 10:55 (twelve years ago) link
I remember seeing a New York Times headline that read something like "Brooklyn fire injures 12 residents, kills one." British equivalent would be "Man dies in Brooklyn blaze." NYT style is so oddly formal.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:07 (twelve years ago) link
Rioters: Olympics Can Go Hang
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:09 (twelve years ago) link
I agree about NYT style (which trickles down to other US newspapers in general, this almost defensive reflex to be "correct", as if they constantly needs to re-prove their intelligence) but to my mind direct quotes are sacrosanct, you just don't put words in people's mouths, and British headlines do it ALL THE TIME.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:14 (twelve years ago) link
i've found that formal "correctness" is a hallmark of many americans' writing as well - this emphasis on a measured, rational tone
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:20 (twelve years ago) link
it's like good romans wrote a very formal latin during the height of the empire
― Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:22 (twelve years ago) link
"Former Murdoch Editor Is Said to Be Arrested"
yaaawn
― caek, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 13:21 (twelve years ago) link
yeah shoulda been GOTCHA
― Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 13:22 (twelve years ago) link
I can't read this, my brain cannot engage with the page. So many quotes and scare quotes and ellipses and dashes and images and short sentences and fragments and whatever point it was making (presumably another lame takedown of Kony2012 viral) is lost on me.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/mar/14/kony-2012-right-now
― A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
SamuelSmiles
14 March 2012 9:22AM
"Charlie Skelton is a comedy writer, journalist and olive farmer."
Hope his olives aren't as bad as his writing.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link
got the impression he was shooting for some HROish thing but nope, not happening at all
― Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/poll/2012/mar/15/bill-roache-ken-barlow-1000-women?newsfeed=true
presented without comment. (but i grinned.)
― ledge, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/mar/17/facebook-dark-side-study-aggressive-narcissism
Researchers have established a direct link between the number of friends you have on Facebook and the degree to which you are a "socially disruptive" narcissist, confirming the conclusions of many social media sceptics.
so much horseshit in one sentence
― Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2012 09:57 (twelve years ago) link
So Stephen Fry is a "socially disruptive" narcissist?
Oh wait they said Facebook, not Twitter.
― Mark G, Monday, 19 March 2012 09:59 (twelve years ago) link
This is actually satire, right?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/mar/24/indie-music-back-to-2007
I can't actually conceive of this in any other sense but satire.
― Masonic Boom, Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:30 (twelve years ago) link
oh my god
"Cut me and I bleed White Stripes seven-inches," claims lead singer Fred Macpherson
― Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
That has got to be a joke, right?
― Masonic Boom, Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
I want to believe
― Number None, Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:44 (twelve years ago) link
"intelligent house" - die
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:47 (twelve years ago) link
Come on, that "intelligent house" quip and the "dance music without choruses" thing shortly after was what convinced me it was satire. That couldn't possibly be real.
― Masonic Boom, Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
fairly sure there are people that stupid.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks to Dalston Superstars I assume anything that mentions Dalston is a joke of some kind
― kinder, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
"Watching grown men dance in tears to the Futureheads' Hounds Of Love was definitely one of 2011's highlights," he says, before wrapping his lips around the shotgun barrel and squeezing the trigger.
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
We were wondering tonight why the weekend magazine's Blind Dates never stay out late.
A last tube thing? (They are predominantly London-based). A work night thing? (Restaurants more willing to stump up a free meal Mon-Thurs). Or a fear that staying out late might suggest you want something more than the column's traditional kiss on the cheek?
― djh, Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
In fairness, "we stayed out dancing all night then came back to mine for a drunken shag" isn't the easiest thing to admit in a national paper.
I thought this weekend's magazine was one of the better in recent months.
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 25 March 2012 07:30 (twelve years ago) link
I think the reason they don't "go on somewhere" most of the time is because they don't actually like one another? I love reading the ones where one of them clearly couldn't stand the other, but were trying to be, erm, polite, in a national newspaper.
There was one I loved where they asked if they would see one another again, and the girl said something like "no, I don't think so, he talked about himself so much all night, I have nothing left to learn about him!"
The dude was, of course, oblivious, and thought she was a great listener. Hilarious.
― Masonic Boom, Sunday, 25 March 2012 07:56 (twelve years ago) link
oh that one was AMAZING - http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jul/29/blind-date
― lex pretend, Sunday, 25 March 2012 08:10 (twelve years ago) link
That is exactly the one. It remains one of the funniest things I've ever read. She's so... *dry*.
― Masonic Boom, Sunday, 25 March 2012 09:30 (twelve years ago) link
Guardian Open Weekend!
― the pinefox, Sunday, 25 March 2012 12:00 (twelve years ago) link
"I didn't expect to learn so many things about someone in one sitting."
class!
― jed_, Sunday, 25 March 2012 12:38 (twelve years ago) link
I just came here to post that "indie disco in Dalston" article, glad to see ILE has not slept on it.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
paul lewis on the orwell prize longlist, presumably for london riots coverage, job listed as "the guardian, twitter". #openjournalism #embarrassing
― joe, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:57 (twelve years ago) link
What did you talk about? Lots… kicking off with work, as we're in the same field, then about writing and my novel, philosophy, free will, determinism, art, neuroscience, quantum physics, dating, travel, tequila and tattoos.
What a guy.
― And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
re indie thing: one of spector goes out with my ex, who I lived with last year, and he memorably jumped out of their bedroom window during an argument once. halcyon days.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/mar/25/children-difficult-music
Another meh article on the 'tough' stuff. What next, lunatics?
Nice to see some good names on there - Hugh M and Claudia Molitor.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
His confessional lyrics have earned him millions, collaborations with Rihanna and Kanye – and bitterly divided opinion. Some call him 'hip-hop's centre of gravity', others the 'hashtag rapper'. Who is the real Drake?
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 March 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
One thing is certain. In the final weeks of the season, the Anfield skipper will be mustering all his power and knowhow to make strides in the direction of domestic football's greatest prize: the FA Cup.
― the pinefox, Friday, 30 March 2012 08:29 (twelve years ago) link
Will Self: Walking is Political
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/mar/30/will-self-walking-cities-foot
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/7/11/1310398053433/willself.jpg
Think I'll stay off the streets if there's a chance of bumping into him on a dark night. Lol crude facist ad hominem!
― ledge, Friday, 30 March 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
Will Self seems like a nice guy but he is unreadable in print and when he speaks he never offers an interesting version of anything (his Question Time appearances are invariably embarrassing). I am for his main point, i.e. I like walking. I also think walking is political. But those who get through the first paragraph of this crap should be amazed by themselves. To me it seems impossible. He is an awful writer.
― Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
he's looking p cadaverous there
― thomp, Saturday, 31 March 2012 10:26 (twelve years ago) link
This is an edited version of Will Self's inaugural lecture as professor of contemporary thought at Brunel University
huh!
― thomp, Saturday, 31 March 2012 10:27 (twelve years ago) link
We should have a pedestrian equivalent of critical mass - gathering each Friday to block runners and cyclists on the South Bank.
― Bob Six, Saturday, 31 March 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago) link
Articles like this really are unhelpful.
The paper's going back to the bad old Left-behind days of the eighties, when the NME could have earnest debates about whether The White Album was a racist title.
It's petty nitpicking that does nothing to address institutionalised racism or actual racism, and as I keep saying, the Left are going to have to do better than thinking it's still 1985 and Kinnock and Red Wedge.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 11:29 (twelve years ago) link
I was more "oh, no John George or Ringo then?", but that was it.
It's funny, both the kids have made Sgt Pepper friezes of their own, on leaving Primary school to move up to Snrs. (Amber got a few bonus marks for including "Newcastle" and "New York" as well as people in hers)
I mention, mainly because this makes Peter Blake into some primary school child picking his friends and his parents taking it off him and adding more important people that they think will impress.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 11:39 (twelve years ago) link
--- If the latter, then as a snapshot of British cultural life, his options could have included, say, children's author Malorie Blackman alongside JK Rowling. Or maybe Turner prize-winning artist and director Steve McQueen alongside Damien Hirst. What about designers Duro Olowu or Beatrix Ong, actors Archie Panjabi or Idris Elba, dancer Akram Khan? The list goes on.
absolutely dire
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 12:49 (twelve years ago) link
he should have consulted a focus group to ensure all creeds, races, classes, and sexual orientations were represented in this hugely significant landmark document of britain today which crystallises forever the views of every person in the country.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:05 (twelve years ago) link
The list goes on.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:08 (twelve years ago) link