Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

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Yeah, but he's doing fine for a fuck-up. And really, long-term strategy does not seem to be a concern on the right these days.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

Like, I think public sentiment is throw all the bums out, literally vote out the entire Congress, which of course is not going to happen. So people will vote for the usual fuckers. Again. ANd a few new fuckers will slip in, promising cheap gas, an end to Iran's meddling in Mexico, no birth control for people who have sex with animals, and the repealing the sun.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think boehner's 'doing just fine' I think anyone in his position is fucked, cantor would be too

iatee, Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

But there he is. Again, we're not talking long-term strategy here, because these dudes don't look past tomorrow.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

Boehner has a good chance at retaining the position of Speaker of the House

curmudgeon, Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think the Dems will retake the House but it's possible Boehner's speakership will be challenged from within if the GOP ranks shift enough

No way to know what the caucus will look and ACT like should the GOP lose in November.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

Back to the detaining Yemeni reporter story, another Mother Jones columnist differs with K*vin Drum, who thinks in print about the views, and then sticks with his original take

http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/03/obama-and-shaye-will-white-house-explain-its-actions

curmudgeon, Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

if boehner hangs on in his post AND obama loses in november, boehner suddenly becomes pretty powerful. if both of those happen and the GOP flips the senate, even more so. nobody looks good running a minority.

goole, Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

if both of those happen and the GOP flips the senate, even more so

huge longshot imho

I don't think it's going far out on a limb to suggest that if Boehner keeps his post, repubs keep the house, repubs win the senate and also win the white house, that he's "doing just fine." The rest of us, on the other hand, will be doomed.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

suggest that if Boehner keeps his post = possible
repubs keep the house = likely
repubs win the senate = not so likely
and also win the white house, = SO NOT GONNA HAPPEN

shitty GOP prez candidate will depress GOP voter turnout, which will dim their chances of retaking the Senate. House is probably secure tho.

Which means the next four years will be just like the past four, no?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

oh if Obama wins and the GOP retains the House it's safe to assume even less will get done. only accomplishments will be pulling out of Afghanistan and other foreign-policy-related stuff

Which is sweet! I can't wait to post more indignant Bam-aims-drones-at-citizens stuff!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

texas responds to the DOJ's objection to its voter id law by amending its complaint: the Voting Rights Act is (partly) unconstitutional! it “exceeds the enumerated powers of Congress and conflicts with Article IV of the Constitution and the Tenth Amendment.”

http://electionlawblog.org/?p=31583

goole, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

lol gtfo

good luck, texmerica

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yay, Rush is on Twitter

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

“I’m not going to be hanging on Twitter 15 hours a day and tweeting, ‘Just had breakfast, have a wonderful day! Bye! Here’s a picture of me eating some cornflakes!’ None of that stuff,” he said

lol like Rush eats cornflakes without frosting

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

“Just things I want people to see and there’s a really good one today that I want people to see, and I’m going to tweet it out.”

Definitely do not need to see Rush tweeting one out

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

What's frosting? Is that some new painkiller all the kids are doing?

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

“I’m not going to be hanging on Twitter 15 hours a day and tweeting, ‘Just had breakfast, have a wonderful day! Bye! Here’s a picture of me eating some cornflakes!’ None of that stuff,” he said

lol like Rush eats cornflakes without frosting

― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:08 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

unsurprisingly, he sounds like what olds thought twitter was in 2008

been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Friday, 16 March 2012 00:57 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno where else in the country this is bubbling up, but our legislature here is all freaked out about Agenda 21. (Which they just discovered, even though it's been around since 1992.) My favorite part is this:

the measure matches up nearly word-for-word with a model posted on the website of the John Birch Society

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 16 March 2012 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

As far as I'm aware, "I am willing to stand up against the tyranny of Agenda 21" means "I am psychotically insane OR I am willing to stand in solidarity with my psychotically insane brethren if it will get me a few votes".

So, it's a very _now_ look for Republicans.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 16 March 2012 10:23 (twelve years ago) link

Only 3rd on the agenda!

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 16 March 2012 10:32 (twelve years ago) link

wait that can't be real

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

We worry about the "imposition" of sharia law yet:

WHEREAS, God has never rescinded his grant of said lands; and

WHEREAS, along with the grant of said lands to the Jewish people, God provided for the non-Jewish
residents of the land in commanding that governance must be in one law for all without drawing distinction
between Jewish and non-Jewish citizens, as contained in Leviticus 24:22, and

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

Oh c'mon, stop acting all surprised. Obviously Evangelical Christians are opposed Sharia Law bc they think divine testament law is the only law.

Mordy, Friday, 16 March 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

and that peace can be afforded the region only through a united Israel governed under one law for all people.

I'm sure the Palestinians will be delighted to hear it.

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

"reverenced"?

goole, Friday, 16 March 2012 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

silly, Palestinians aren't people! xp

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

Other Republicans are pointing fingers at Sandra Fluke's "socialist Jewish boyfriend" (who does not love America or Israel enough among other things apparently)

http://thegraph.com/2012/03/sandra-flukes-boyfriend/

curmudgeon, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

wow, this 'beta male' shit. kudos to the anti-woman internet underground, you have made it increasingly mainstream.

goole, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

look at this clown's twitter feed

https://twitter.com/#!/brooksbayne

looks like some other conservatives have tried to ostracize him as an anti-semite. lol this shit.

goole, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

https://twitter.com/#!/jstrevino/statuses/180664026236338176

goole, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

Oh lord, that's the real Adam Baldwin. Bad show, Jayne.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

yeah he's a total nut

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

wtf. tikkun olem was not invented by liberals. it was invented by the fucking besht. fuck conservatives forever.

Mordy, Friday, 16 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

Whether or not Boehner keeps his speakership is really not a big deal one way or another, but here's how I see it. Even if the Republicans were to take a whipping in November, while still retaining a much-diminished majority in the House, Boehner probably wouldn't fall to Cantor as a result, because the most likely R-reps to lose their seats in such an election would be the freshman tea-partiers, undercutting Cantor's core of support.

imo, the most likely way for Boehner to lose out to Cantor would be a very mixed election where 95% of the tea party R-reps came back, but about an equal number of "moderate" R-reps lost their seats, but Obama wins and the Senate stays Democratic. Then Cantor might-could assemble an insurrection and grab the speaker's chair. Not likely, tho.

Aimless, Friday, 16 March 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

he most likely R-reps to lose their seats in such an election would be the freshman tea-partiers

what are you basing this on

tea party's appeal undiminished in the GOP if the prez primary is anything to go by

i'm basing it on history. freshmen reps are always the most vulnerable segment of a congress. a big loss of seats is almost certain to include a large number of first timers whose seats flipped back. but, if you notice, i wasn't predicting a large loss of R-rep seats in november, only speculating on boehner's security in a couple of scenarios.

Aimless, Friday, 16 March 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

just asking cuz I was wondering if there was some recent polling data or something. no disputing that freshmen seats are the most vulnerable, they always have less money/fewer backers/weaker infrastructure

it's not their freshman-ness that's the vulnerability, it's that most districts are safe.

goole, Friday, 16 March 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

yeah there's a difference between a freshman who fits w/ a district's politics and flipped out the outlier and a freshman who won in a wave election

iatee, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

right

A little more on the Agenda 21 fite, this is funny:

http://blogs.knoxnews.com/humphrey/2012/03/rep-womick-wrong-about-murfree.html

"It's kind of like children have imaginary friends, and Republicans have imaginary enemies," House Democratic Caucus Chairman Mike Tuner of Nashville told reporters after the floor session.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 17 March 2012 13:09 (twelve years ago) link

Actually the lead sentence is pretty great too:

A state lawmaker was mistaken about the facts of a restaurant's zoning issues when he used the case of Papa's Butts and BBQ Hot Sauce Store as an example of the creeping influence of the United Nations in Tennessee, a city official said.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 17 March 2012 13:10 (twelve years ago) link


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