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2001 notably has the same sort of thing going on, I think?

There's an entertaining correlation between late 80s/early 90s work at Xerox PARC that involved devices called tabs, pads, and boards. The pad was 9"x11", the tab was 2"x3", and the board was pretty much a whiteboard. The idea was that with ubiquitous computing, you'd have a variety of devices that would serve different roles.

I've found myself context switching if I have an iPad and iPhone handy. If I'm watching something on the iPad, I'll check email on my phone. If I'm checking my calendar, I'll pull out my phone but if I'm planning multiple events I'll walk over to my computer or pull out my iPad.

mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

relevant image?
http://www.ubiq.com/hypertext/weiser/majortrends.gif

mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

Draw Some on mah iPad, YANIV on mah iphone

catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

CREATE yanivs and assafs

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

wonder if he travelled back in time and stole it, more like it?

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:18 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

forward, you mean

max, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

star trek was filmed in the past smdh

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

so he traveled to the past to steal a non-functional prop?

mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

who says it was... non-functional http://www.wanderingheretic.com/wp-images/icons/spock.gif

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

star trek was a documentary beamed back to the 60s to ensure creation of the ipad

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

finally somebody is making sense in this thread

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

see that is what I was saying

mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think it's a bullshit thing at all

i'm just saying that i don't think of a computer, a tablet and a smartphone as different ways to accomplish the same core functions ... i think a laptop computer and a desktop computer share the same core functions, but a phone and a tablet are fundamentally different from the first two

i think a lot of the "mobile" functions of a laptop (ie surfing the web at the coffee shop or checking your email in the airport) are pretty well handled by a smartphone or tablet at this point

the late great, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

ya i agree with that for sure, i just dont think the line is between 'creating' and 'consuming' necc

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

popping in with a couple of qs...

i am trying to decide between buying an ipad 2 16gb refurb model (i'm guessing ex-display) and a new ipad. the refurb is €349, price for the new one hasn't been released yet (i'm in Ireland) but i'm guessing will be around €500. i'm poorish but in the mood to splash out (just got made full-time at my job for the next year, having spent the last year working half-time). i'm leaning towards the refurb, what do you folks reckon?

second q is re those combined keyb/covers that Edward mentioned upthread, any specific recommendations?

thanks folks

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

I got a refurbished ipad 2 16gb fairly recently and I dig it, I dunno if I have any advice w/r/t the difference between the two.

after a lot of price/spec research I got this to go with it:
http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP39B-Bluetooth-adjustable/dp/B0050M92CU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332354181&sr=8-1 and think it does the job quite well for the price.

iatee, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

second q is re those combined keyb/covers that Edward mentioned upthread, any specific recommendations?

having tried a number of these, my favorite is the targus versavu, but it doesn't look like the keyboard model is available in the UK based on a cursory search of amazon.co.uk.

second best is the zaggmate, tho there may be a preferable local alternative.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

I think I've made a thing of this before but I use my iPad loads at work, to whit:

- planning work with a mindmapping thingo
- screen mockups with my client sitting next to me
- taking notes when collecting information from chatterbox clients (wireless kb => no need for full laptop)
- draggy flowcharts
- annotating other people's work and emailing it back to them (had to do this urgently a few weeks ago; it was a Friday night on the tram, paper would not have cut it)

Also Chinese study (writing characters on a tablet >>>>>>> scrawling with a mouse or digitiser wotsit).

ymmv but fuck me if this isn't the most useful, portable and productive laptop I've ever owned.

TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

mindmaps / flowcharts - omnigraffle or what?

lukas, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

iThoughts HD

TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

oh and flowcharts = TouchDraw

TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

ty

lukas, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

What the F - iTunes insists my credit card's security code is wrong, but it is NOT WRONG! It has been working fine until today. Anyone know anything about this?

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

yes, your credit card's security code is wrong

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

that shouldn't have made me laugh as hard as it did

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

if you're using itunes from an ipad/iphone account updates can act wonky sometimes, best to make those kind of changes from yr mac/pc

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

Credit card processing is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later.

Well DANDY. You know what that means? It means that DRAW SOMETHING is also unavailable and I here I am on my day off, NOT PLAYING IT.

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

I HATE APPLE

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

in other news, apparently the ipad 2 lops off the ends of widescreen images

I loaded an mp4 of the prometheus trailer to both the ipad 2 and 3 to compare, and looky here

ipad 2

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/prometheus_ipad_2.png

ipad 3

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/prometheus_ipad_3.png

laptop

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/prometheus_laptop.png

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link

cue ppl complaining "movies look smaller on my new ipad blecch"

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

I mean I knew the ipad 2 aspect ratio was 4:3 but really didn't think about it all that much

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

haha wait I'm an idiot

my ipad 2 somehow had the widescreen toggle off

NEVER MIND

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

sheesh

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

facepalm :)

WE ARE VERY BUSY PPL WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR YOUR GAMES EDWARD

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

sorry dudes

ok here's what that still really looks like on an ipad 2

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/prometheus_ipad_2_REALLY.png

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

thanks for ruining my day EDWARD

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

I just smashed my ipad 2 with a hammer based on your 'insights', Edward.

NOW WHAT.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link

cut back on the coffee?

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link

Billing issue solved. BBL, I have a lot of drawing to catch up on.

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

xpost *throws hammer*

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link

now that you're all thoroughly discounting whatever I say, I'll note that I'm not seeing too much quality difference between the ipad 2 and ipad 3 screenshots

however

ipad 2 = 968 KB
ipad 3 = 3.20 MB

this is the type of stuff that has the potential to affect 16GB users, unless you're sir cloud or something

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link

flagging all of your posts from now on, fyi

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:41 (twelve years ago) link

:)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:41 (twelve years ago) link

Not seeing a diff in the iPads, or in the screenshots viewed on another device? You also have to realize you are scaling up the video on iPad 3 and scaling it down on iPad 2.

mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

That is, assuming you downloaded a 1080p one. If it's off YouTube, you are probbably viewing a lower res.

mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

Edward III is not to be trusted

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

lol

in the screenshots on a different device (to eliminate the display diff between the ipads)

the trailer was the same 1080 mp4 file loaded to both ipads, not youtube

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link

I respect your testing methodology

mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link

btw if you're viewing them on a diff device then it completely negates the fact we're talking about whether the iPad screen looks good, not whether it can render things to static files better than iPad 2, sheesh

mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link

because I am insane I loaded the screenshots to both ipads, I can see a slight diff between the two (minor pixelation) if I zoom in on details (like on the thing that looks like an old pushmower on the left hand side of the capture)

and I'm not so much interested in the quality difference as in the potential for organic file bloat, just something to take into consideration if folks are trying to make the 16/32/64 decision

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I'm sort of terrified to see the file size of the first retina new yorker

TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link


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