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AnnieHalldonia (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

so there are issues that aren't in the TPB? how come I never even saw these

If you decide to look for it it's called Slaves of Mickey Eye.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

cbz means the internet will provide

Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

sic, i admire yr high standards re: computer font lettering (def agree that the 2nd Thorgal example is an eyesore), but i guess i'm more of a pragmatist (or a despicable mono-linguist) - cinebooks have now issued almost every goscinny written Lucky Luke, the vast majority previously untranslated, with decent repro (they've kept the original colouring) and unlikely to ever be attempted by any other publisher = a must-buy. i look at any imperfections in the lettering as the equivalent of less-than-optimal subtitles on some rare 'foreign' movie - the price you pay for pursuing a minority taste

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i'm with ward on these in that all the cinebook lukes i've bought are the only ones i've ever seen!

Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

"It's six of one/half a dozen of the other, because Marvel can't seem to keep anything in print."

From what I understand part of the reason DC was better on keeping backstock in print was that it was apart of Time Warner which has an extensive publishing wing with warehouses and distribution system setup etc. and Marvel really didn't, so most of the trades they print get shipped straight to the distributors like Diamond.

earlnash, Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

that's almost completely wrong. DC actively pursued and carefully cultivated a backlist system, since the early 90s have launched many bookstore-targeted lines, and publish their own books, not cross-licensed to Hachette. mmaaaaaybe they use AOL warehouses though, idk about that. Marvel's backlist could work better if they reprinted books even once, but they publish them like periodicals - to order. Not owning warehouses isn't the problem - a) they could buy or rent them, with money, and b) Diamond is their distributor to the bookstore market, so i) of course they fucking ship their books to them, and ii) Diamond could warehouse them super-efficiently and cost-effectively. But given that Perlmutter's penny-pinching is so legendary that paper-clip usage is monitored in the offices, the tiny outlay on printing and shelving more now against long tail profits over the next ten years is aggressively discouraged.

computer lettering on translations CAN be done sensitively and smoothly - cf Fanta's Tardi line, or Dirk Rehm on D&Q's Dupuy & Berberian

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 22 March 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

Have to agree with the above. DC has always been forward looking on trades, with some caveats. It's still tricky to manage anything resembling a reading order for say, GREEN LANTERN. But DC was aggressive on getting evergreen titles out early (and they stumbled into WATCHMEN being a perennial, which has its own downsides). Note that DC also printed books that even non-comics readers wanted to read (evidence SANDMAN). Marvel has just a handful of titles that sell outside of already-reading-comics folks. I mean, which SPIDER-MAN book do you send a new reader towards? I love old UNCANNY and FANTASTIC FOUR, but most people will find them impenetrable. Add to that the fact that Marvel is pretty conservative when it comes to breaking new formats, and you have a recipe for some wheel-spinning.

Of course, with every passing day, I get more and more hopeless about seeing the last chapters of SEAGUY. I'm pretty surprised that volume 2 even happened, given the sales of the first.

Matt M., Saturday, 24 March 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link

"I mean, which SPIDER-MAN book do you send a new reader towards?"
If they have no love for Ditko/Romita or any sense of the history? Probably the Brian Michael Bendis Ultimates run tbh

Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

^ forks trying to drive readers away

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno. If they have no familiarity with Spider-Man, I'd guess that extended to Marvel on the whole and possibly to mainstream comics or comics history more generally. As such, said new reader might have some trouble getting over the "corny & old-timey" hump with the Lee/Ditko stuff (which I just realized is almost fifty years old). I agree that Bendis isn't necessarily an ideal alternative, but as an alternative, it's a damn sight better than some of the other contenders (e.g. Straczynski's run, which would stand a good chance of driving readers away from comics altogether).

One of my faverit moive ever!!!! XD (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 25 March 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link

just saying I read some of the start of that and it was terrible comics

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Sunday, 25 March 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link

Well, that's part of the problem. Comics of the 60s and comics of today, at least in the world of superhero comics are a damn far sight apart from one another. Corniness is a hobgoblin that superhero comics think they've been fleeing for the last thirty years (never knowing that the extreme flavor of the 90s is just as corny, only in a different direction altogether.)

Matt M., Sunday, 25 March 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

BMB Spiderman is readable and hews closely to canon; it's good trash reading for me. ymmv

Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

So, the Marshal Law omnibus finally has a a release date, and at the moment you can pre-order it on Amazon for 9.59 quids (75% off the official price). I have no idea why it's so cheap, but hey, I'm not complaining...

Tuomas, Monday, 21 January 2013 08:04 (eleven years ago) link

Very beginning of the punisher unlimited series

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 01:48 (eleven years ago) link

Walt Simonson run on FF, all the time bubble shit

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

A large portion of the OG Punisher series is available as Essentials.

(hcnuL dlO) * (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 04:09 (eleven years ago) link

A bunch of it is on MDCU as well.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 04:13 (eleven years ago) link

The Walt Simonson FF run was collected a few years ago in I think 3, maybe 4 volumes of Fantastic Four Visionaries TPBs. No idea if they've slipped back out of print because Marvel is HORRIBLE at managing their back catalog availability. Also all on MDCU, which may be their focus going forward.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 04:21 (eleven years ago) link

A large portion of the OG Punisher series is available as Essentials.

available yes but "in print" is relevant here

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 04:48 (eleven years ago) link

a large portion of the OG Punisher series is available as back issues iirc

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 04:51 (eleven years ago) link

Guess I shoulda checked that. Yeah, they're super shitty about keeping stuff in print. You'd think they'd at least make more of an effort with the Essentials so they could showcase their classic material.

(hcnuL dlO) * (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 05:27 (eleven years ago) link

They literally don't keep anything in print, as Perlmutter won't pay for warehousing. Their collections are printed like periodicals, on initial orders, plus whatever Diamond chooses to stockpile.

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 05:45 (eleven years ago) link

I knew they did that with the Omnibi, but...that's just insane as an across-the-board business model for collections.

(hcnuL dlO) * (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 05:49 (eleven years ago) link

this is the dude who cuts stationery budgets if he sees paperclips on the floor, and only allows one bathroom per style of genitals for several hundred staff, to save money

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 05:57 (eleven years ago) link

Marvel seem to keep most of the Essentials in print (dunno about the Punisher)

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 07:09 (eleven years ago) link

Pat Mills is pushing on with reprints from my childhood at a pace I can barely keep up with. The collected Shako came out a couple of weeks ago.

Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 10:24 (eleven years ago) link

I was looking at that over Amazon, is it worth buying?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 12:46 (eleven years ago) link

Shako, I mean.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 12:46 (eleven years ago) link

Dude, it's a story about a polar bear infected by a secret CIA disease who kills people. He punches a Russian guy in a bar at one point. I also haven't read it since I was 8. Hookjaw is the closest in tone of the reprints to date and I loved that so BRING ON THE THRILL POWER.

My enthusiasm for the 200AD/Battle/Action reprints are entirely based on the 8 year old me. So far I've been about 75% right.

Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 12:50 (eleven years ago) link

xxxxp even the essentials seem to drop in and out of print. a few years ago i was looking to pick up spiderman and fantastic four essentials and was surprised that various volumes were oop. right now FF vol 1 is unavailable from amazon/b&n.

fit and working again, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

I swear, the omnibuses are worth picking up if even to resell a few months later when they go out of print

mh, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

I still want the Iron Fist omnibus :(

mh, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

Marvel seem to keep most of the Essentials in print (dunno about the Punisher)

orly come at me bro

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Avengers 1 Avengers #1-24 OOP
2 Avengers #25-45, Annual #1 available from stockists
3 Avengers #47-68, Annual #2 OOP
4 Avengers #69-97, Incredible Hulk #140 available from stockists
5 Avengers #98-119, Defenders #8-11, Daredevil #99 available from stockists
6 Avengers #120-140, Giant-Size #1-4, Captain Marvel #33 and FF #150 OOP
7 Avengers #141-163, Annual #6, and Super-Villain Team-Up #9 available from stockists
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2 Captain America #103-126 available from stockists
3 Captain America #127-156 OOP
4 Captain America #157-186 available from stockists
5 Captain America #187-205, Annual #3, Bicentennial Battles available from stockists
6 Captain America #206-230, Annual #4, Incredible Hulk #232 available from stockists
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2 Marvel Super-Heroes #12-13, Captain Marvel (1968) #22-35, #37-46, Iron Man (1968) #55, and Marvel Feature #12 unavailable
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3 Daredevil #49-74, Iron Man #25-26 OOP
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5 Fantastic Four #84-110, Annual #7, 8 OOP
6 Fantastic Four #111-137 available from stockists
7 Fantastic Four #138-159, Giant-Size Super-Stars #1, Giant-Size FF #2-4, Avengers #127 OOP
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3 Ghost Rider #51-65, Marvel 2-in-1 #80, Marvel Super Heroes Fall 1992, and Avengers #214 OOP
4 Ghost Rider #66-81, Amazing Spider-Man #274, New Defenders #145-146 available from stockists
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Human Torch 1 Strange Tales #101-134, Annual #2 OOP
Incredible Hulk 1 Incredible Hulk #1-6, Tales to Astonish #60-91 available from stockists
2 Tales to Astonish #92-101, Incredible Hulk #102-117, 147, Annual #1 available from stockists
3 Incredible Hulk #118-142, Captain Marvel #20-21, Avengers #88 available from stockists
4 Incredible Hulk #143-170 available from stockists
5 Incredible Hulk #171-200, Annual #5 OOP
6 Incredible Hulk #201-225, Annual #6 available from stockists
Iron Fist 1 Marvel Premiere #15-25, Iron Fist #1-15, Marvel Team-Up #63-64, Power Man/Iron Fist #48-50 OOP
Iron Man 1 Tales of Suspense #39-72 OOP
2 Tales of Suspense #73-99, Iron Man & Sub-Mariner #1, Iron Man #1-11 OOP
3 Iron Man #12-38, Daredevil #73 available from stockists
4 Iron Man #39-61 available from stockists
5 Iron Man ##62-75, #77-87, Annual #3 available from stockists
Killraven 1 Amazing Adventures (Vol. 2) #18-39, Marvel Team-Up #45, Marvel GN #7, Killraven #1 (MK) OOP
Luke Cage, Power Man 1 Hero For Hire #1-16, Power Man #17-27 OOP
2 Power Man #28-49, Annual #1 OOP
Man-Thing 1 Savage Tales #1, Astonishing Tales #12-13, Adventures Into Fear #10-19, Man-Thing #1-14, Giant-Size Man-Thing #1-2, Monsters Unleashed #5, 8-9 OOP
2 Man-Thing (1974) #15-22, Man-Thing (1979) #1-11, Giant-Size Man-Thing #3-5, Marvel Team-Up #68, Marvel 2-in-1 #43 and Doctor Strange #41 OOP
Marvel Horror 1 (Son of Satan/Satana) Ghost Rider #1-2, Marvel Spotlight #12-24, Son of Satan #1-8, Marvel 2-in-1 #14, Marvel Team-Up #32, 80-81; Vampire Tales #2-3; Haunt of Horror #24-25; Marvel Premiere #27 $10.59 OOP
2 (Living Mummy, Brother Voodoo, Golem, Mordred the Mystic, etc.) Supernatural Thrillers #5, 7-15; Strange Tales #169-174, 176-177; Tales of the Zombie #6, 10; Marvel Team-Up #24; Haunt of Horror #2-5; Monsters Unleashed #11; Marvel 2-in-1 #11, 18, 33; Marvel Chillers #1-2; Dead of Night #11; Marvel Spotlight #26 available from stockists
Marvel Saga 1 Marvel Saga #1-12 OOP
2 Marvel Saga #13-25 OOP
Marvel Team-Up 1 Marvel Team-Up #1-24 OOP
2 Marvel Team-Up #25-51, Marvel 2-in-1 #17 OOP
3 Marvel Team-Up #52-73, 75, Annual #1 OOP
4 Marvel Team-Up #76-78, 80-98, Annual #2,3 available from stockists
Marvel Two-In-One 1 Marvel Feature #11-12, Marvel 2-in-1 #1-20, 22-25, Annual #1, Fantastic Four Annual #11 OOP
2 Marvel Two-In-One #26-52, Annual #2-3 OOP
3 Marvel Two-In-One #53-77 and Annual #4-5 OOP
4 Marvel Two-In-One #78-98, 100 and Annual #6-7 available from stockists
Monster of Frankenstein 1 Monster of Frankenstein #1-5, Frankenstein's Monster #6-18, Giant-Size Werewolf #2, Monsters Unleashed #2, 4-10 OOP
Moon Knight 1 Werewolf By Night #32-33, Marvel Spotlight #28-29, Peter Parker, Spectacular Spider-Man #22-23, Marvel 2-in-1 #52, Hulk Magazine #11-15, 17-18 & 20, Marvel Preview #21, Moon Knight #1-12, Marvel Team-Up Annual #4 OOP
2 Moon Knight #11-30 OOP
3 Moon Knight #31-38, #1-6(1985), Marvel Fanfare #30,38,39, Solo Avengers #3, and Marvel Super-Heroes #1 available from stockists
Ms. Marvel 1 Ms. Marvel #1-23, Marvel Super-Heroes Magazine #10-11 OOP
Nova 1 Nova #1-25, Marvel Two-In-One Annual #3, Amazing Spider-Man #171 OOP
Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 1 OHOTMU Vol. 1 #1-15 OOP
Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe: Deluxe Edition 1 OHOTMU: Deluxe Edition #1-7 OOP
2 OHOTMU: Deluxe Edition #8-14 OOP
3 OHOTMU: Deluxe Edition #15-20 OOP
Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe: '89 Update 1 OHOTMU: '89 Update #1-8 OOP
Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe: Master Edition 1 OHOTMU: Master Edition (Abomination to Gargoyle) OOP
2 OHOTMU: Master Edition (Garokk to Proctor) OOP
3 OHOTMU: Master Edition (Professor Power to ZZZAX) OOP
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2 Peter Parker, Spectacular Spider-Man #32-53, Annual #1-2, Amazing Spider-Man Annual #13 OOP
3 Peter Parker, Spectacular Spider-Man #54-74, Annual #3 OOP
4 Peter Parker, the Spectacular Spider-Man #75-96 and Annual #4 available from stockists
5 Peter Parker, the Spectacular Spider-Man #97-114 available from stockists
Power Man & Iron Fist 1 Power Man and Iron Fist #50-72, 74-75 OOP
2 Power Man and Iron Fist #76-100, Daredevil #178 OOP
Punisher 1 Amazing Spider-Man #129,134-135,161-162,174-175,201-202,Annual #15, Giant-Size Spider-Man #4, Marvel Preview #2, Marvel Super-Action #1, Captain America #241, Daredevil #182-184, Spectacular Spider-Man #81-83, Punisher #1-5 OOP
2 Punisher #1-20, Annual #1, Daredevil #257 OOP
3 Punisher #21-40, Annual #2-3 OOP
4 Punisher #41-59, Annual #4-5 available from stockists
Rampaging Hulk 1 Rampaging Hulk #1-9, The Hulk! #10-15, Incredible Hulk #269 OOP
2 Hulk! #16-27 available from stockists
Rawhide Kid 1 Rawhide Kid #17-35 available from stockists
Savage She-Hulk 1 Savage She-Hulk #1-25 OOP
Sgt. Fury 1 Sgt. Fury #1-23, Annual #1 available from stockists
Silver Surfer 1 Silver Surfer #1-18, Fantastic Four Annual #5 OOP
2 Silver Surfer (1982) #1, Silver Surfer (1987) #1-18, Annual #1, Marvel Fanfare #51 OOP
Spider-Man 1 Amazing Fantasy #15, Amazing Spider-Man #1-20, Annual #1 OOP
2 Amazing Spider-Man #21-43, Annual #2, 3 available from stockists
3 Amazing Spider-Man #44-68 OOP
4 Amazing Spider-Man #69-89, Annual #4, 5 available from stockists
5 Amazing Spider-Man #90-113 available from stockists
6 Amazing Spider-Man #114-137, Giant-Size Superheroes #1, Giant-Size Spider-Man #1-2 OOP
7 Amazing Spider-Man #138-160, Annual #10, Giant-Size Spider-Man #3-5 OOP
8 Amazing Spider-Man #161-185, Annual #11, Giant-Size Spider-Man #6, Nova #12 OOP
9 Amazing Spider-Man #186-210, Annual #13-14, Peter Parker, Spectacular Spider-Man Annual #1 OOP
10 Amazing Spider-Man #211-230, Annual #15 available from stockists
11 Amazing Spider-Man #231-248, Annual #16-17 available from stockists
Spider-Woman 1 Marvel Spotlight #32, Spider-Woman #1-25, Marvel Two-In-One #29-33 OOP
2 Spider-Woman #26-50, Marvel Team-Up #97, Uncanny X-Men #148 OOP
Sub-Mariner 1 Daredevil #7, Tales To Astonish #70-101, Tales of Suspense #80, Iron Man & Sub-Mariner #1, and Sub-Mariner #1 available from stockists
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Tales of the Zombie 1 Tales of the Zombie #1-10, Dracula Lives #1-2 OOP
Thor 1 Journey Into Mystery #83-112 available from stockists
2 Journey Into Mystery #113-124, Thor #125-136, Annual #1-2 OOP
3 Journey Into Mystery #137-166 available from stockists
4 Thor #167-195 OOP
5 Thor #196-220 available from stockists
6 Thor #221-247 available from stockists
Tomb of Dracula 1 Tomb of Dracula #1-25, Giant-Size Chillers #1, Werewolf by Night #15 OOP
2 Tomb of Dracula #26-49, Dr. Strange #14, Giant-Size Dracula #2-5 OOP
3 Tomb of Dracula #50-70, Tomb of Dracula magazine #1-4 OOP
4 Tomb of Dracula magazine #2, 4-6, Dracula Lives #1-13 OOP
Warlock 1 Marvel Premiere #1-2, Warlock (1972) #1-15, Incredible Hulk (1968) #176-178, Strange Tales (1951) #178-181, Marvel Team-Up (1972) #55 and Annual #2, and Avengers Annual (1967) #7 available from stockists
Web Of Spider-Man 1 Web Of Spider-Man (1985) #1-18, Annual #1-2, Amazing Spider-Man (1963) #268 available from stockists
2 Web Of Spider-Man (1985) #19-32, Annual #3, Amazing Spider-Man (1963) #293-294, Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man #131-132 available from stockists
Werewolf By Night 1 Marvel Spotlight #2-4, Werewolf By Night #1-21, Marvel Team-Up #12, Giant-Size Creatures #1, Tomb of Dracula #18 OOP
2 Werewolf By Night #22-43, Giant-Size Werewolf #2-5, Marvel Premiere #28 OOP
Wolverine 1 Wolverine #1-23 OOP
2 Wolverine #24-47 OOP
3 Wolverine #48-69 OOP
4 Wolverine #70-90 OOP
5 Wolverine #91-110, Annual 1996, Uncanny X-Men #332 OOP
6 Wolverine #111-128, Annual 1997 available from stockists
X-Factor 1 Avengers #262, Fantastic Four #286, X-Factor #1-16, Annual #1, Thor #373-374, Power Pack #27 available from stockists
2 X-Factor #17-35, Annual #2, Thor #378 OOP
3 X-Factor #36-50 and Uncanny X-Men #239-243 OOP
4 X-Factor #51-59, Annual #4-5, X-Factor: Prisoner of Love, Marvel Fanfare #50 and more available from stockists
5 X-Factor #60-70 and Annual #6, Uncanny X-Men (1963) #270-272, #280, material from Annual #15, and New Mutants (1983) #95-97, material from Annual #7 available from stockists
X-Men 1 X-Men #94-119, Giant-Size X-Men #1 OOP
2 X-Men #120-141, Uncanny X-Men #142-144 available from stockists
3 Uncanny X-Men #145-161, Annual #3-5 OOP
4 Uncanny X-Men #162-179, Annual #6; God Loves, Man Kills graphic novel available from stockists
5 Uncanny X-Men #180-198, Annual #7-8 available from stockists
6 Uncanny X-Men #199-213, New Mutants Special Edition #1, X-Men Annual #9, X-Factor #9-11, New Mutants #46, Thor #373-374, Power Pack #27 available from stockists
7 Uncanny X-Men #214-228, Annual #10-11, Fantastic Four vs. the X-Men #1-4 available from stockists
8 Uncanny X-Men #229-243, Annual #12, X-Factor #36-39 available from stockists
9 Uncanny X-Men #244-264 and Annual #13 OOP
10 Uncanny X-Men (1963) #265-272 and Annual #14, , New Mutants (1983) #95-97, and X-Factor (1986) #60-62, material from Fantastic Four Annual #23, New Mutants Annual #6 and X-Factor Annual #5 available from stockists
11 Uncanny X-Men (1963) #273-280, Annual #15, X-Factor (1986) #69-70, X-Men (1991) #1-3, and material from X-Factor Annual #6 and New Mutants Annual #7 available from stockists
X-Men (Classic) 1 X-Men #1-24 available from stockists
2 X-Men #25-53, Avengers #53 OOP
3 X-Men #54-66, 67-80 (covers only), Amazing Adventures #11-17, Marvel Team-Up #4, Incredible Hulk #150, 161 OOP

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I count that as 104 out of 168 currently unavailable from Diamond or Amazon, or almost 2/3s. Those that are available either have movie tie-ins and would have been resolicited, late entries in a run that haven't sold out their initial print run yet, or are things that no-one bought in the first place (eg The Rawhide Kid).

And in instances where Marvel does resolicit something, that means it's unavailable to order for at least four months, and then technically out of print a month later. That's not "keeping in print."

Even if you're generously allowing "resoliciting occasionally and hoping that Diamond and Amazon between them warehouse enough to cover a couple of months or years" as "keeping in print", note that the first five out of six WOLVERINE volumes are unavailable in the year before a Wolverine movie. If they actually had even a semblance of a program for "keeping things in print," would that happen?

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 23:20 (eleven years ago) link

my beautiful tab indents, all lost

a productive morning's work

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 23:21 (eleven years ago) link

Oh man, my dire financial straits got me thinking about selling some of those (I have pretty much everything pre-1970 and a smattering beyond, like most of the Claremont X-Men volumes) but maybe I should hang onto them. Or maybe I should sell them for ridiculously gouged prices.

(hcnuL dlO) * (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

xp where's your data from? ... FFs 3-5, for example, ARE available from amazon. not that i'm disputing the point you're making.

fit and working again, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 23:35 (eleven years ago) link

In stock at amazon != in print

mh, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

out of stock or one copy left on those on amazon uk and ca

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 00:36 (eleven years ago) link

xp that's why i asked. the list is from where?

fit and working again, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago) link

Marvel?

mh, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 01:46 (eleven years ago) link

sorry, forgot to paste after searching those two before - stripped from http://collectededitions.com/storefront/buy_essentials.html

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 02:00 (eleven years ago) link

those three

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 02:02 (eleven years ago) link

Outside first prints and that one Essential Conan, most of them are not too hard to find through online sources. The odd ones are I think the ones that can be harder to find.

Essential Super-Villain Team Up

This one took me a bit to find a copy between local shops and online.

You can often find them way under cover price new at My Comic Shop and Mile High Comics web sites.

I'm pretty much a Marvel Essentials junkie. It is about all the comics I read these days.

earlnash, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 05:29 (eleven years ago) link

howard the duck is a pain in the ass to find iirc

an old penis drawing is now "new and notable" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 05:57 (eleven years ago) link

That was one printing only, I think - they did an Omnibus with much closer to every single appearance later, but the Essential was approved by Gerber as the material he wanted to stand in the record

Godzilla only had one printing due to licencing issues - that was known ahead of time, wonder how many retailers stockpiled

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 06:33 (eleven years ago) link

I wanna know why the Tomb of Dracula volumes seemed to only get a single printing before they were put out to pasture. It looks like they're letting all of the '70s monster stuff go that direction.

(hcnuL dlO) * (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 07:15 (eleven years ago) link

heh my comment was based on the hard scientific evidence of seeing lots of Essentials volumes in my local Forbidden Planet. i mean, i know certain of the volumes have had more than one printing - they've changed the cover design on the FF Vol #1 about three times, now.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 07:42 (eleven years ago) link


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