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flash?

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

how rude!

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

: (

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

I've become a big fan of Console. My computer had been slowing down over the last few months, more and more sluggish. I have a 2008 Mac Pro, Dual Quad Core with 10 gigs of ram and 5 hard drives in various states of fullness. On one hand, I figured it's a pretty powerful computer. On the other hand it's getting a little old. Tons of beach balls, and my iTunes, which was 498 gigs on a 500 gig drive was painfully slow.

First I noticed some of the RAM wasn't showing up, so I sent it back to OWC to get replaced. Without the bad ram it seemed to help. Then with Console I noticed some weird thing crashing every 40 seconds. I discovered it was from my Xrite monitor calibrator, buggy software checking my license. Lots of people complaining. I trashed that and it helped.

But still was kind of slow. I had been using SuperDuper to dupe my system drive nightly and it kept crashing. I emailed them about it and they said it was stopping because of certain files. Delete those files manually and try again. It kept crashing. SuperDuper tech guy says "sounds like the drive is failing".

I run Disk Warrior on the drive, it fixes a bunch of directory things, but SuperDuper still can't copy it.

I used Lion Restore to put Lion back on a different hard drive. It must use Time Machine because it wasn't like a clean install, it had all my extensions and everything, just had to re-enter a few serial numbers.

So I bought at 2 gig hard drive. Set it up as Time Machine. Moved all my music from a 500gig to a 1 TB and switched my system drive from what it was on (the original 320 gig that came with the computer) to a 500 gig drive.

Now everything feels like a brand new computer. iTunes is effortless scrolling through my almost 500 gig library (70,646 items).

System feels zippy, things run fast.

Looking at console and seeing weird things, googling them and seeing if they're cause for concern, and trashing things has been a huge help. I have a fare amount of little add-ons I didn't want to get rid of. Finding out which ones were buggy was crucial.

But yeah, in the end, the slow-downs were the hard-drive dying.

Try cloning the drive onto an external and boot from that and see if it's any different. If it's faster, it's the drive. If it's the same problem, it's what's on the drive.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

It's looking like my secondhand yet tricked-out Mac Pro isn't going to be supported by Mountain Lion, unless they expand to a few older computers. Sad, since it runs like a dream.

mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

omg, thank god I just make the cut. After all that work outlined above if they dropped support I'd lose my shit.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry though.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

Hah, it's cool. There are... ways.. to make it work, but I don't know if I'll consider that. Might just sell it and switch to something else or just use my laptop. It's still possible they'll extend support, too.

mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

my time machine has been 'preparing backup' for like the last 20 minutes

what should i do

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

Turn it off and on again, usually does the trick.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

like stop backup and start again?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

i think he means reboot

but before you do that, follow dan's suggestion and check console

it's in /Apps/Utilities

search for "backupd" and copy and paste all the messages for this current backup (they are timestamped so you should be able to figure it out)

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

More like turn Time machine off and on in System Preferences.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

ok this thread is freaking me out - also is there some kind of universal inbuilt rule that all Apple products will get wonky around the two year mark?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

ok my computer just crashed AGAIN... uh oh

itunes was playing and after the screen blacked out the cocteaus stuttered until i manually turned it off!

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

one big question i have is whether these new, more powerful MBP/MBA hybrids will have radeons or geforces or some other type of separate graphics chip

on the other hand, i imagine that for just about anything other than number crunching (including 3D rendering, video rendering, games, etc) the SSD on a MBA will make up for the slower processor?

i'm in a similar position to jacob sanders, my early 2007 macbook pro is about to give up the ghost

my big question is:

1) get a new 15" MBA when it comes out

OR

2) get a top of the line "old" MBP on sale and shell out for the SSD

i don't do video rendering or a lot of photo work but i am doing illustrator and indesign almost every day. i would like to stop lugging a laptop to-and-from work everyday (in fact i already leave my laptop at home all the time and leave my work laptop at work and just switch between the two) but i also don't really have room for an imac sitting around the house.

the late great, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

I have been having some thunderbolt display related freezes recently. Sometimes locks up when I am switching between full screened apps and needs a hard reboot.

Never have the issue without thunderbolt.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

also fuck a mountain lion IMO, i'll be damned if i can name one benefit of upgrading to lion ... apps in full screen? longer, slower hibernation shutdown and boot up? face time?

the late great, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

s1ocki, reboot if poss and

1) paste the backupd stuff in console (see above)
2) open disk utility (also in Apps/Utils) and check it's SMART status, i.e. click your hard drive in the panel on the left and see if it says "SMART Status: Verified" in the bottom right

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

I am surprised how much I use full screen. Google apps in chrome at full screen is really nice although chrome has a bug that doesn't quite handle it properly.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

Lion is pretty sweet imo, but part of that is my developer-sense understanding how much better the app security model now is and using all the magic trackpad crap

mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

lion fixed a really annoying bug about a ridiculous edge case in time machine that i submitted to apple and an actual apple developer emailed me about, so it's ok by me, but it's a pretty feeble upgrade and i would never encourage someone to upgrade unless lion was coming installed on a new machine

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

#braggin

max, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

he gave me one klout

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

seems like lion's memory management might make an upgrade worth it on a lower-RAM machine?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i don't use multitouch gestures or full screen but maybe once i get a new screen and new trackpad it will all make more sense

i understand the security angle but as a tradeoff we got the wonders of the app store *and* it's probably going to break fantastical?

the late great, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

oh wait i forgot about reverse scroll and the "bouncing" animation you get when you scroll to the top or bottom of something too fast

the late great, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

with the magic trackpad the gestures are pretty sick

the other day i came upon a website that was designed to be scrolled horizontally rather than vertically. you used to see this back in the 90s, with a few "edgy" sites but it was always stupid then, just different for the sake of difference. now with trackpad gestures it reallllly works

ah, here we go - http://www.pointephemere.org/?cat=10#4

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

I upgraded to 8gb on my mbp and it's been fine, I need more HD space tho

dayo, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

just got off the phone with applecare who had me jump through all the standard (PRAM, safe mode etc) hoops and told me to see if it happens again

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

till then tho:

Mar 28 11:21:11 Marks-MacBook-Pro com.apple.backupd[3458]: Starting standard backup
Mar 28 11:21:11 Marks-MacBook-Pro mtmd[34]: Set snapshot time:1332948073 (current time:1332948071)
Mar 28 11:21:13 Marks-MacBook-Pro com.apple.backupd[3458]: Error -35 while resolving alias to backup target

Mar 28 11:21:23 Marks-MacBook-Pro com.apple.backupd[3458]: Backup failed with error: 19

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

there seem to be some weird chrome-related errors too

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

2) open disk utility (also in Apps/Utils) and check it's SMART status, i.e. click your hard drive in the panel on the left and see if it says "SMART Status: Verified" in the bottom right

for my internal or my time machine?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

youre smart you can figure it out

dayo, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

(i dont see SMART status anywhere)

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

so obv im not SMART

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

(i dont see SMART status anywhere)

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:47 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

uh oh!

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

jokes

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

don't worry about the chrome errors

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

im also getting this right now as we speak, which i assume has something to do with it (my time machine is seagate)

Mar 28 12:50:02 Marks-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[145] (com.seagate.notificationexec.plist): Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
Mar 28 12:50:32: --- last message repeated 2 times ---
Mar 28 12:50:32 Marks-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[145] (com.seagate.notificationexec.plist): Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
Mar 28 12:51:00: --- last message repeated 2 times ---
Mar 28 12:51:00 Marks-MacBook-Pro mds[37]: (Warning) FMW: event:1 had an arg mismatch. ac:2 am:51
Mar 28 12:51:02 Marks-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[145] (com.seagate.notificationexec.plist): Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
Mar 28 12:51:32: --- last message repeated 2 times ---
Mar 28 12:51:33 Marks-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[145] (com.seagate.notificationexec.plist): Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

you don't see anything like this (at least no the internal drive)?

http://www.pondini.org/OSX/DU9_files/DU%209a%20Disk%20Utility%20SMART%20status.jpg

i am a bit confused about which drive your problem is with

is time machine running now?

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

oh yes! i do see it, sorry i had clicked on the partition. it IS verified.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

hmm, that looks like some weird seagate program? did you install anything when you got the drive?

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

SMART! xp

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

i am a bit confused about which drive your problem is with

so am i! i keep getting these kernel panic things, but ALSO, time machine is refusing to just go ahead and back up, it seems to stall out on "preparing"

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

and yes it is running now

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

and no, i never install that HD add-on software garbage... i don't think!!

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

i think maybe you did but i'm sure it's harmless

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

this just happened:

Mar 28 12:55:09 Marks-MacBook-Pro com.apple.backupd[363]: Finished scan

maybe it'll start backing up for real now?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

fingers crossed anyway

caek, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link


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