i loved that
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
loved the argument between the two (Harry and Pete)Harry: i'm giving you my officePete: screw you.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
^^^secretary was carrying a box with Pete's gun in it
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
He's had to keep that gun at the office for 6 years now.
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
this seems broadly relevant to discussions of don: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/character-and-its-discontents/
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
sorta hope the series ends with Pete losing his shit and blasting Don out the window with his rifle
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
can't really see that happening - maybe more like barging into Don's office and nattering away at him until Don eventually loses it and hurls himself out the window.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I can't really see it happening either it's just funny to envision
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
pete drops out grows a beard, becomes charlie manson
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
regardless of pete's indiscretions, it's still the only marriage where there's actual support happening.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
Pete Campbell is our successful marriage role model.
― mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
:/
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
never said that. fuck you all i am raging with every one of you.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
this show's aggressive cynicism about marriage is actually one of the least convincing things about it, i think. that doesn't mean they have to present several "model marriages"--but i'd buy it more if they presented at least a few that were largely functional.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
i don't see it as cynicism abt marriage, really. i think it's a combination of basic soap opera relationship dynamics (the more conflict, betrayal and duplicity, the better) & cynicism abt the culture of madison avenue in the 60s. the guys around whom the show revolves are for the most part ambitious, selfish, petty and rather venal. makes sense that they'd have troubled marriages.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno i think a lot of what's depicted is more in the realm of generalized "bad male behavior" than anything specific to madison avenue.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, that too, but there is something distinctive abt the entitlement of manhattan power-business types. overlapping circles: men, businessmen, 60s businessmen, madison avenue ad guys.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
pssh, Pete's still married and has a cute wife and a kid, his life is awesome
― mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
otoh, he's a horrible, egocentric geek with frustrated delusions of grandeur, his life is hell
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
He's one of those people who is never going to be happy with what he has.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
Could see Pete getting involved with Est or some sort of encounter group in the 1970s
― Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
yes plz. would watch the fuck out of that plot development
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
omg
we need cult sideplots!
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
moonies please!
I thought something along those lines was going to happen when Don was crashing in Cali with those strange people in the house with the pool.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
The problem with EST is that it doesn't exist until the 70s.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
elvis's "in the 70's" clarified that :)
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
also his and trudy's marriage is pitiful!
wan sham of a marriage
yeah this. Trudy is so good for him, encouraging his better tendencies and gently guiding him away from - not scolding or chiding him for - the worse ones she sees. and he genuinely likes and appreciates this, and her, and their life together. He rankles about ways she wants to live that he would prefer not to, but he does come to accept compromise, and not just add it to his pile of injustices re The Rise Of Pete Campbell to seethe about.
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
I think the difference is that Pete and Trudy actually relate to each others as adults and peers - whatever their respective shortcomings (Pete's infidelities, Trudy's waspy conservatism) - and that's pretty much not the case with any of the other marriages depicted (which is really not that many - Joan and Dr. Rapey, Roger and Jane, Don and Betty/Megan, but that's pretty much it. Haven't seen much of Lane and his wife)
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
lane and his wife pretty clearly have no affection for each other whatever
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
oh I dunno. they've only been onscreen together for a grand total of like 5 minutes at the most
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
and in those couple of minutes it was established that they cannot stand one another
― Clay, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not gonna dispute that - I'm just saying the body of evidence for all the other couples is a lot bigger and more definitive
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder what ken + his significant other are like together. i wonder a lot about ken. what kind of guy is he?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, ken and his wife--from what we can tell--seem pretty tight.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
adirondack chairs on the porch, reading the sunday papers...is how I picture the young Cosgroves
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
ken needs to be brought to the fore, i think. great character. good actor too.
― jed_, Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
I agree I would love to see Ken Cosgrove get more of a storyline this season.
― *tera, Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
On the surface of it easily the nicest guy at SDCP.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
his wife was the younger sister in 10 Things I Hate About You.
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
my favorite character in this episode was Don and Megan's apartment, fyi.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
prob best known to ppl my age as alex mack xp
― y'tulip, y'pea-brained earwig (donna rouge), Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link
that apartment was amazing! we wanted to know if the apartment had all those stairs so ppl could sit on them and look cool
― Mordy, Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link
alex mack OMG
sunken living room, fireplace, balcony, a white carpet to bone down on...
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
a dirty white carpet even
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 March 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link
soooooooo dirty
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 March 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
The apt was very Playboy After Dark, especially with the band playing at the party. I wish I still had the DVD with all the old Playboy After Dark shows. Had good interviews and music numbers.
― *tera, Thursday, 29 March 2012 05:38 (twelve years ago) link
There's quite a few of them on YouTube. Always liked this one...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOrUR54HKwA
― Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 29 March 2012 06:39 (twelve years ago) link
― Mordy, Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:33 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
SO OTM
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Thursday, 29 March 2012 06:55 (twelve years ago) link