Mad Men on AMC • Fifth Season Thread

better than peggy's fatsuit

totally lolled at don and harry getting white castle

film wonkery : john slattery is (assuming the DP didn't "actually" direct his episode) a better director than Hamm.

The Tradewinds!

peggy eating Bugles !

betty i mean, damn

-do you want the last one?

-there were twenty! I thought you were getting them for your family

Trade Winds = Spector acolytes/songwriting team

so how do we feel about Ginsberg?

kind of irritating so far. a little too young Woody Allen.

felt like Roger's "When is everything going get back to normal?" / clinging to the ledge while the young kids step on my toes monologue was key

yeah Roger's been dropping hints about jumping out the window for like two seasons.

and of course nothing ever gets "back to normal".

kind of a boring episode. was afraid there was going to be a Mother's Little Helper montage for a second. also lol fat betty

you think slattery's gonna kill himself this season? not a bad idea really.

well what does he have to live for, exactly

major role on a hit tv show iirc

Roger's too vain to be suicidal. Even if he hates his job and his wife, he knows he has a natural charm and can get by on it for all his remaining years.

Plus he's not really all that reflective. He just moves on, he's not a dweller like Don.

Yeah, that too. Roger has no mood swings because he's mostly oblivious to what's going on around him.

serious question: has any sympathetic adult character on this show ever been seen taking a bite of food? seems like people only get to eat on the show when the writers want to show them in an unflattering light.

sympathetic?

i mean everyone hates harry, and lolwhitecastle rite?

we're meant to hate betty, and there's the eating from last night, and that one episode where she does it with a stranger in a bar (that whore!) and eats out of the refrigerator when she gets home.

seems like people only get to eat on the show when the writers want to show them in an unflattering light.

grandpa and Sally eating ice cream

what about the chicken kiev on don's date? or when betty orders room service with don.
the new guy's rye bread and farmers cheese?

good one xp

take it from a nut, utz are better than nuts

there are plenty of scenes that I can think of that take place at meals, but I'm not sure about the actually seeing people eat thing

but I'm not sure about the actually seeing people eat thing

the "actually eating" is what i'm talking about. and i know sally has gotten to eat, that's why i was asking about adults.

Didn't they show Don and Roger sucking down oysters prior to their stairway to vomit?

Oh wait, unflattering. Never mind.

this is something Sopranos conscientiously did all the time but tbf it's pretty rare on TV shows, not just Mad Man. It's really hard to shoot scenes of people with their mouths full.

like, I dunno how much I would read into it thematically

i know, it's just something i think about from time to time -- how shows (etc) sometimes use food as a device to help make someone seem more unlikeable.

harry eats the most onscreen, also talks about food the most

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1v2h8T0vG1qaj9lko1_500.gif

yes, his wife is "making" him lose weight and he's obv such a weak person that all he wants to do outside of the house is cheat on his diet.

(and he's already cheated on his wife, speaking of things that harry cheats on)

harry actually told his wife that he cheated (not sure why i always want to stick up for him).

i wanted to stick up for him cuz he's a perennial loser, but the thing last week with megan was... well, him digging his own grave.

And he was very remorseful, which is why when he started getting really creepy with women I felt a bit let down by him. xp

pete has gone from being a weasel to being likeable, and he's been pretty creepy with women too.

actually most of these characters (including/especially peggy) are sexual weirdos.

Fans of the highly addictive TV series about the advertising business in the 1960s learned yesterday that AMC, the cable network that carries the show, is demanding cast cuts -- of at least two characters.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/saving_some_mad_money_kgOquEafL3Vw7dPaZTLZ4O

that article is from a year ago, but the point stands.

^^ March 30th 2011

iirc MW locked in his cast for the final 3 seasons when he reached his agreement with AMC

what point?

the point on top of my head.

no, the point that amc wants weiner to get rid of two characters in exchange for his THIRTY MILLION DOLLAR salary.

seem to recall that one of the things MW said after he signed his contract was that AMC were offering him more money at the expense of cast and minutes on air and he wasn't biting.

iirc MW locked in his cast for the final 3 seasons when he reached his agreement with AMC

oh. as you were.

This needs to be here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZBmhEMFdl0

http://www.grayflannelsuit.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/the-who-sell-out_front.jpg

IIRC, Heinz wasn't exactly thrilled at that endorsement.