San Francisco and what to do in it

Little Nepal

it is a mile walk from BART to chez panisse

assuming your colleague can manage that i'd agree that it's worth a trip

if you go early in the afternoon there's a pretty good cheese shop across the street that makes very very good slices of pizza

Chez Panisse lost their Michelin star recently, right?

i looked up directions from where i'll be that afternoon and it said 45 min. anyway, was just wondering if the cafe was as good (we were thinking of springing for the real deal but no reservations available). will look up baywolf, too.

it's not an unpleasant stroll and there is no way that a 7 block walk would take 45 mins

okay 9 blocks still, I used to live around there and there is no way the walk from downtown berk bart was 45 mins

no. 45 min total from where i'll be in sf to the restaurant.

i am not a lazy asshole and i don't mind walking a mile.

oh okay that makes more sense and might even be a little optimistic

on an absolute scale the cafe is not as good, but given price and convenience it is quite good in itself

i think though at that price point there is are a lot of other options that are as good, which i don't think is the case w/ chez panisse itself

if i were visiting SF and i had to pick one fancy restaurant to eat at i might pick zuni cafe, but i'm not really a foodie so i don't know if that's a great pick

it was expensive but not quite as much as chez panisse iirc

i don't eat $$$ food very often though, i'm much more a $ type of guy

I haven't been to a fancy restaurant in a while, but Frances is about a million times better than Chez Panisse Cafe (or Zuni)--or at least it was the last time I went there 2 or so years ago.

They still appear to have their Michelin star for whatever that is worth as well.

MY new fave in SF is State Bird Provisions, in the Fillmore. They do sort-of fancy Dim-Sum-style dining, and everything I had there was *more* yummy than it sounded on the menu, which is the opposite of most of my dining experiences lately.

"sort-of fancy Dim-Sum-style dining"

Is this another way of saying they are a small plates restaurant?

Yeah, but they also bring dishes around on carts/trays (or you can just order them, sight-unseen, if you wish).

Pics on Yelp look pretty tasty.

It was really really good. First time in a while that I paid a bunch for a meal and wasn't disappointed.

Frances is friggin' excellent. My new favorite is the unfortunately named Starbelly.

I will definitely check out State Bird Provisions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XiwqOu_R7I

started watching the first part of this on Youtube - lost doc about one of the Tenderloin's SROs

"My new favorite is the unfortunately named Starbelly."

I refuse to eat at that restaurant just cuz of the crappy name (apparently it has nothing to do with Dr. Seuss either which makes it even more of an affront) but my wife has eaten there and enjoyed it.

Wow that was great

xp

http://www.photoboothsf.com/

Tintype portrait studio. One of you locals should go and tell me if they're cool before I book an appointment if I get to visit SF this summer.

Anyone know how to change your address on your driving licence if you're moving out of the US? Or don't they need to know? The website says you can't do it online if you have a non-US address (or if you don't have a SS number, which I don't) and indicates you should fill in & post a form... which has no space for a non-US address and is one of those machine-read things so you can't write outside of the spaces provided. I hate the DMV!! I don't want to call them as you can never get through and they always give me wrong info anyway.

what use would a US drivers license be to you in a foreign country if you aren't a US citizen?

I can (I think) drive in the UK with it.

Also I'd rather they didn't send letters to my US address if I'm not there - hassle for my landlady to forward/return them.

it might be something you have to do in person at the DMV.

Every time I talk to the DMV they act as though I'm the first person from another country to ever get a driving licence. First time I went there they actually told me I couldn't get one because I didn't have a SSN and my husband would have to drive me around. FFS!

Is there a good website for shows/gallery exhibits/etc.?

I'm going to be in SF from June 6 to 12, one night is taken up with a Giants game, but I wouldn't mind going to see a show that Saturday.

You might find this useful: http://sf.funcheap.com/

Seconding the recommendation upthread for the Anchor Brewery tour -- free, includes tasting session after tour. Gotta get a reservation though.

so while sf is not my favorite city in the world, i thought the outer areas were really nice (mostly just from driving through them) and i'm crazy jealous that you have mountains and ocean so close. union square/edge of tenderloin really does suck.

music shows: dardardar.org, http://www.foopee.com/punk/the-list/

art stuff: http://www.happenstand.com/sanfrancisco/calendar

Flavorpill also works for major music/movie/art related stuff.

xxp yeah I would not recommend staying there really.

I stayed at the Hotel Carlton and didn't mind that part of the Tenderloin. Very close to Van Ness for the busses, decent dive bars, etc.

Sweet, thanks for the places to look.

from what everyone i interacted with told me, most of the reasonable hotels (ie, within budget and not sketchy) are in the union square area. i needed to be close to bart, etc.

it's just so times square-y and i was so busy that i didn't have time to go to other hoods for dinner most nights, so my stomach was very sad by the time i left.

From space:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7059/6953418906_8104879e9c_b.jpg

this is around the corner from my house

I am going to eat the shit out of it

Looks killer. I'm in!

dang. will have to remember that one next time we're in town

Market price for radishes with tarragon and butter? WTF

will pay

any particularly good stuff going on this weekend? flying up thurs night and staying til tuesday afternoon-ish

at the very least, the weather right now is amazing