Crows, Rooks, Ravens, Jackdaws, Jays and Magpies

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Wormword Scrubs is a park. there just happens to be a prison next to it... 8)

http://scrubs.ground-level.org/lnr/

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:07 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.filmcliches.com/

Rumpie, Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Kate, I only know that rhyme as "one for peter, two for paul, three for him who made us all". But I only know it from a Peter, Paul & Mary song! Ditto for The Three Ravens, oh so sad.


Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Grackles: worst blackbird ever.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link

laurel, the magpie song was theme to top seventies kids program over here (unsuprisingly called 'Magpie') which is why all english people know it and why they know the version they do.

here are a bunch of alternatives: http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/boardarchives/2000/oct2000/countingcrows.html

the magpie was back again today. i think i might have to start encouraging it with mealworms.

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Aw, you people have the cutest television theme songs. It just makes me want to pinch all your little cheekbones and squeal loudly.

I may have seen a crow or blackbird at some point but I'm pretty sure I've never seen a raven. Do we even have ravens in the US? Should look it up.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Ravens in the US? Yes. Around Oregon they tend to hang out away from people in the backwoods. Their cawing is much more gutteral than crows - a deep croaking noise. They are, without a doubt, as smart as all get out.

Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link

the names in the title look so nice in a row like that.

jones (actual), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

HOLY SHIT, CROWS TALK!

I was walking around with friends after having a drink or two yesterday in my neighborhood. We pass under a crow, and I yell out "HELLO, CROW! :-D". A few seconds pass, then really loudly, the crow sounded back in this distorted robotic voice "Heeeee-LO". Then we all turned around and went WTF at each other.

I said "HELLO" again. The crow said "HeEeEeE-LO" again.

I had no fucking idea.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 18 August 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Corvids are the smartest damn things in the world.

I was thinking the other day, the thing I miss the most about Idaho is magpies.

Abbott, Monday, 18 August 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, I knew this from reading George RR Martin books in which some crows talk. I learned everything I ever knew from genre lit.

Laurel, Monday, 18 August 2008 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

You should read Mind of the Raven, Mackro. And everyone else. They roll down snowy hills together, playing and scooping snow at one another. They talk, too.

Abbott, Monday, 18 August 2008 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Ca-CAWWW ca-CAWW

elmo argonaut, Monday, 18 August 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I was thinking the other day, the thing I miss the most about Idaho is magpies.

I guess I can see missing them - I kind of miss seagulls now that they aren't around all the time - but magpies are so annoying. Especially when you have a flock of them squawking right outside your bedroom window early in the morning.

It is kind of awesome to watch a crew of magpies battle a red-tailed hawk though.

joygoat, Monday, 18 August 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I liked waking up to all the magpies.

Abbott, Monday, 18 August 2008 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link

here is a neat talk about crows: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/joshua_klein_on_the_intelligence_of_crows.html

rrrobyn, Monday, 18 August 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Who on earth was TGL?

Where was this thread when Mark H, Johnny B and I were arguing about whether the massive black birds on Hampstead Heath were crows or rooks?

Where there's crows, that's a rock. Where there's a rook, that's a crow.

I'm so confused. WHITE SPOT. WHITE SPOT ON BEAK = ROOK. Is that the rule of thumb? (or beak as the case may be?)

Masonic Boom, Monday, 18 August 2008 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link

ROOK is a card game, that IIRC, involves putting cards on a table or possibly forcing people to trade them.

Abbott, Monday, 18 August 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Second one down looks like a species of kingfisher rather than some sort of corvid. Magpie kingfisher perhaps? All of those are beautiful though!

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:02 (twelve years ago) link

Does look kingfisheresque, but it's an Indochinese Green Magpie apparently.

ledge, Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:04 (twelve years ago) link

But then again, his tail is long and magpie-like and his beak is shorter than a kingfishers, so I'm clearly talking out of my underpants.

xp- oh right, thanks!

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:05 (twelve years ago) link

I would have gone straight to the wrong section of the field guide obviously.

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:06 (twelve years ago) link

My handy tip for telling crows from rooks: crows look like they mean business. They could be bouncers - only for exclusive high-end clubs though. Rooks look like mad old professors.

ledge, Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:10 (twelve years ago) link

It's true, those rooks with their big brainy shiny dome heads and scruffy trousers.

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:13 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

i just saw a crow divebombing a smaller bird that was flying through the same airspace. must be dinnertime!

judy rae jetson (get bent), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 01:42 (eleven years ago) link

saw 1 of these guys out jogging earlier, nvr noticed these dudes b4, looked hella boss, the red/orange was just like piping u could barely see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-winged_Blackbird

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 01:50 (eleven years ago) link

I see you trying to sneak yer icterids into our thread of corvids.

Jesu swept (ledge), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 08:20 (eleven years ago) link

*blushes*

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link

When I go home to Minnesota and I hear the redwing blackbirds calling it always puts me in the best mood.

Corvids = the best of all families. My power animals. Another good book about corvid smarts: Bird Brains.

We have a pet starling that we raised from a rescued chick, and he's not a corvid (closest relative - Mynah Bird) but he talks like CRAZAY. He acquires words and then goes all jazzbo stringing them together in different sequences, mixed up with nonsense muttering.

There are some great Youtubes of talky ravens. My favorite is the one whose phrase is 'Hello TERRY' spoken with the greatest disdain.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

i watched hitchcock's the birds today, for the first time, somewhat randomly (i have an admittedly rather aspie way of picking what movie to watch of what i have on hand & it doesnt involve what weird threads are bumped) & right after i went out on my front porch to go jogging & was looking down fiddling w/ my ipod & i swear 2 god a bird FLEW @ MY FACE

johnny crunch, Thursday, 28 June 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link

five years pass...

i think i have an irrational fear of crows

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 28 July 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link

Are there any around? If so it isn't irrational, they can really slice you up. I once got attacked by one that was nesting (presumably) nearby, while walking a few km's to the next town. It felt like it'd just hit me, until blood started spurting on to my shirt. I cleaned that up, got to the shop and was happily served while buying some wine, got home and discovered the entire side of my head was matted with blood. South Auckland liquor stores see some shit, I suppose.

albvivertine, Saturday, 29 July 2017 01:12 (six years ago) link

Oh it was a magpie tho, which're p similar. These birds (corvids) are the best. So many cool videos of them solving puzzles that'd stump some ppl I've known.

albvivertine, Saturday, 29 July 2017 01:14 (six years ago) link

crazy story albvivertine :-/

there's tons of crows around, some in the trees in front of my place. Yeah they're smart and their face recognition is pretty nuts.

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 29 July 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link

one of my friends has a pet magpie, and she's amazing (she lives in taranaki, albvivertine) - super friendly, loves to be petted, will happily snuggle. she was found in a forest, fell out of her nest quite young, i think? and some forest ranger dude gave her to my friend to look after, and she's just stuck around. they also have a tripod cat and big old german shepherd (cop school reject), and she chases them both around.

just1n3, Saturday, 29 July 2017 04:26 (six years ago) link

Oh I'd love that.

albvivertine, Saturday, 29 July 2017 04:48 (six years ago) link

Not sure if I can link to instagram but here's a photo of me hanging out with Yoda and trying really hard not to laugh

https://instagram.com/p/BMiZO9rFtkFLsIqYFoOydKd-7qsoCUj3fCeKPw0/

just1n3, Saturday, 29 July 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link

^ that's great

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 29 July 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

Fake magpie.

(I find it odd how different the birds with the same names in UK and US usually are)

koogs, Saturday, 29 July 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

That photo was taken in New Zealand!

just1n3, Saturday, 29 July 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

(and Australasia)

Oh, American and European magpies are related but the Australian ones are unrelated and aren't corvids.

koogs, Saturday, 29 July 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

Sorry, that sounded more dismissive than i meant it to be.

English magpies are, for something that it just black and white, quite striking in a way the others don't seem to be (based on photos I've seen)

(Sat here watching Godzilla 1984 i can hear one outside somewhere)

koogs, Saturday, 29 July 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

Timely!

Hilarity Winner (doo dah), Saturday, 29 July 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

Nice. You can see the iridescence on the wings which makes them look slightly blue.

Oh, there was a guy with about 30 crows around him in Hyde park this afternoon, feeding them something.

koogs, Saturday, 29 July 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

This is a typical view when eating lunch on clapham common. No crumbs from me, pals.

http://i.imgur.com/6VeZgEv.jpg

The XX pants (ledge), Monday, 31 July 2017 12:53 (six years ago) link

Tom, that link is insane

Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 04:30 (six years ago) link

great doc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89C5gsdaSXg

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 11 August 2017 06:05 (six years ago) link

Recently moved to a high-up place where crows perch in the treetops outside. Wish I could open up the windows and invite them in, but our neighbors are total narcs and would rat us out to management.

cat, Friday, 26 April 2019 04:00 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

A magpie came and sat on my (open) window just now - I think it trying to work out how to get into my room.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Friday, 14 June 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

you and your twinkly trinkets

mark s, Friday, 14 June 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

Yeah I've had a couple of them doing that recently too

Something's going down

Number None, Friday, 14 June 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link

When we were in Istanbul the place was full of hooded crows and you’d see them attacking - and seeing off - seagulls that were easily three times their size. Fearless lads.

stress tweeting (gyac), Friday, 14 June 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

since moving to a city where crows dive bomb pedestrians during mating season and caw aggressively at every passerby, i don’t love crows so much

flopson, Friday, 14 June 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

Definitely the lesser evil where seagulls are concerned.

stress tweeting (gyac), Friday, 14 June 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

Crows harrass hawks and eagles here (PNW) , follow them around and caw and just bug them. Funny from a distance!

alomar lines, Friday, 14 June 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Raven Joins Road Trip, Drafts Off Car for 45 Minutes

A couple driving along a lonely stretch of snowy Canadian highway had some unexpected company — a raven that used their car’s draft to hitch a ride for 45 minutes.

Alex Lavoie, Jodi Young, and their cat were driving from a job in the Yukon back home to British Columbia when an enterprising avian swooped in front of their car, spread its wings, and soared along in front of them for the better part of an hour. Lavoie couldn’t quite believe his eyes.

After about 25 minutes, Lavoie and Young stopped to feed their feline, and to their surprise, the raven joined them in their pit stop. The couple tossed the bird some cat treats, then all four travelers got back on the road. The clever Corvid drafted along for another 20 minutes or so before flying off with another member of its species.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Eu_3j8-uwM

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 December 2022 03:12 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

two gangs of four pies on the way out to the shops and back again: perhaps the same gang twice (?) silently but gleamingly letting me know that IT'S A BOY

tho not where i might meet him or how i might (*creepy pinocchio voice*) become him

mark s, Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:00 (eight months ago) link

got to say when these gentlemen have promised me JOY they've rarely delivered

School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:01 (eight months ago) link

magLIE moar liek

mark s, Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:05 (eight months ago) link

I recently saw a magpie absolutely torment a big dumb seagull who was sitting in a pool of water that the magpie wanted. After a while the seagull grumped off, it was a joy to behold.

Tim, Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:10 (eight months ago) link

the internet is trying to convince me that the magpie's call is "wock wock wock-a-wock, wock pjur, weer weer"

mark s, Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:13 (eight months ago) link

there was an almighty cachinnation of jays in a client's garden earlier. yesterday two jackdaws let me walk right past them. they're waiting for their moment I swear

imago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:26 (eight months ago) link

In Canberra visiting my brother, a small grey butcher bird came and sat on the chair beside me for a few minutes at eye level. I wasn’t sure if it was interested by me or deciding whether to take my eye out. Magic experience. It flew a short way away into a tree and I cut a scrap of steak for it, which it caught off the bounce.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:25 (eight months ago) link


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