NRO's The Corner 2: Ghost Protocol

re: the link provided by Ned to Andy McCarthy's Corner post.

I think he may be doing a bit of back-covering here. Derbyshire has in the past engaged in email correspondence with self-described racist Lawrence Auster which Derb then permitted to be published at the racist site Auster runs, View from the Right. Sample headline from site: MOB OF BLACK SAVAGES IN BROOKLYN BEATS THREE WHITE MEN WITH BATS WHEN THEY TRY TO RESCUE GIRL http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/011160.html

Apparently it has so-far escaped general notice, that Andy McCarthy has been doing precisely the same for the past 5 years, although admittedly he has never broached race as far as I'm aware. He has merely allowed correspondence, concerning Islam and the threat it poses, between himself and the open racist running a racist site, to be posted on said racist site.

drug or illness, how very limousine liberal

yes, the well known reactionary side-effects of chemo

yes, the well known reactionary side-effects of chemo

I was gonna say

i have seen versions of that comment, and i think what they mean is "he's gonna die and he's just fuckin going for it now" not "he's become crazy and angry recently"

Steyn unleashed. Would hate to stand against him.

I am pretty disgusted with NR firing Derbyshire over this. Derb’s article was on Taki’s time, not yours. He is an amazing intellectual (undergoing chemotherapy, no less), and you are playing the cheap games of the left by simply smearing him as a racist rather than engaging his arguments. Have you read the article to which he was responding in kind (External Link )? Derb is not a racist, he is the antidote to this kind of mindless brain-washing to which everyone – everyone – on the left subscribes. John Derbyshire stands athwart history yelling stop. NR is losing its compass.

Ha for a second I'm like "Uh, Alfred, you okay?" before I figured it was a copy/paste.

NR is now essentially standing athwart history yelling "Go Ahead!"

(or even "to the finland station!")

^^^^ almost posted that one

where's the outrage when its right on right crime

right on right crime

Larry Craig vs a gloryhole

lol i had the same reaction as ned

I posted this on Mark Steyn's comment when it should have been here on Rich's.

A couple of questions: Rich---did you talk to Derb before sacking him? What advice would you give someone to avoid being a victim of crime if they are white? If they are black?

Seems a basic white guy going into a New Black Panther rally wouldn't be smart. Nor would a basic black guy going to a Klan meeting be a wise choice either. Between those extremes there is a mean--but how do you find that point? With violence on the increase, is not avoidance of situations where one might encounter it a wise choice? What do you use to determine that choice?. What will you advise your children to do to aid them in making wise decisions on where and when to go places so they remain safe?

Would just be curious to know?

I know conservatives aren't the only ones who do it but I detest this "Rich" and "Mark" forced familiarity.

"basic white guy" is one for the race/class thread

"he's gonna die and he's just fuckin going for it now"

This was actually my first thought after I read the Taki piece.

With violence on the increase

oh ho

It's pretty basic.

Elsewhere, an opening paragraph of suck:

I've been an admirer of John Derbyshire's writing for at least a decade, though I've disagreed with him on a number of issues (including his village atheist shtick and his intemperate attack on pro-lifers), and was sorry to read about his poor health. His book 'We're Doomed' was a witty attempt to reclaim the neglected pre-Reagan tradition of conservative pessimism.

a witty attempt to reclaim the neglected pre-Reagan tradition of conservative pessimism

OMIGOD

the neglected pre-Reagan tradition of conservative pessimism
the neglected pre-Reagan tradition of conservative pessimism
the neglected pre-Reagan tradition of conservative pessimism
the neglected pre-Reagan tradition of conservative pessimism

kinda surprised how big this story is getting*. i figured it would be kinda nothing) (*even on the scale of internet fishbowl punditry which i know is v small)

This guy!

http://www.observer.com/2012/04/takis-mag-founder-speaks-out-on-john-derbyshire-race-controversy-its-nice-to-be-light-sometimes/

“You know, I was one of the last people asked to write Bill Buckley’s obituary,” the American Conservative magazine co-founder (his partners were Pat Buchanan and Scott McConnell) told The Observer. “He never would have done a thing like that…meaning you don’t fire somebody to toe the politically correct line for the neo-cons in Washington.”

“It’s nice to be light sometimes,” the 40-year veteran of The Spectator‘s High Life column said of Taki’s Mag’s sometimes flippant take of the issues. “Especially in America.”

“They (the Review) were in such a hurry to toe the PC line that I don’t even think they read the piece. It just goes to show what a bunch of rats they’ve become to do a thing like that,” Mr. Theodoracopulos continued. “But it makes me happy, because now Mr. Derbyshire is free to go to The Chronicle, The American Conservative, or to us (Taki’s Mag). We’ll split him up, the three of us, I hope.”

We asked if Taki’s Mag pays its writers.

“We pay! Unlike the ‘Greek Pudding’ (Editor's note: We assume he's referring to Arianna Huffington)…and Tina Brown knows…we pay.”

“You know, I was one of the last people asked to write Bill Buckley’s obituary,” the American Conservative magazine co-founder (his partners were Pat Buchanan and Scott McConnell) told The Observer. “He never would have done a thing like that…meaning you don’t fire somebody to toe the politically correct line for the neo-cons in Washington.”

so what's Pat Buchanan's response?

lol @ the editor's note

xp

The Puritans and the Catholics who ran the ecclesiastical courts for the Salem witch trials and the Inquisition, respectively, must be looking at this from the beyond, and saying, "Dam*! You guys don't tolerate a lot of dissent, do you?!"

Derb was a "heretic." He had to be burned. I'd be curious to hear the difference in reasoning of his punishment, if not the method or degree. You just threw one of our crispest, most insightful writers to the lynch mob.

presumably now even crisper

hates dark meat though

With violence on the increase,

Yeah, goole already called this out but this right here is the perfect encapsulation of the fact free conservative bubble. Reality be damned, I thrive on fear!

this is the daily caller but i dont know where else to put it

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/the-end-of-my-white-guilt/

Down the toilet?

But you might enjoy this:

http://www.booksandculture.com/articles/2006/novdec/11.21.html

Comin' up I was confused my momma kissin' a girl
Confusion occurs comin' up in the cold world
Daddy ain't around probably out commitin' felonies
My favorite rapper used to sing ch-check out my melody
I wanna live good, so should I sell dope for a fo-finger ring
Money and them gold ropes
Santa told me if I pass could get a sheep skin coat
If I can move a few packs and get the hat, now that'd be dope
Tossed and turned in my sleep at night
Woke up the next morning niggas done stole my bike
Different day same shit, ain't nothing good in the hood
I'd run away from this bitch and never come back if I could

When I got home I vented to my friends. I told them I was going to scour those neighborhoods until I found the bike. In reply, a liberal friend gave me a lecture about profiling and told me to just forget about the bike. “That person needs our prayers and help,” she said. “They haven’t had the advantages we have.”

Are all Daily Caller stories this weird?

the answer is always to be more racist

and btw disability is just lack of motivation

Mr. McCarthy is saddened by Mr. Steyn and wishes to clarify things:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295608/no-mark-andrew-c-mccarthy

This, of course, is followed by Maggie Gallagher on What is Bad:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295612/drawing-moral-lines-against-racism-maggie-gallagher

Haha "literal child of the sixties" actually used as a unique qualifying trait.

"(I was born in 1960)"

In the second clause you see the authoritarian spirit at work:

And if MSNBC suddenly came to its senses and fired Sharpton, or if the Justice Department — instead of pandering to Obama’s base about “civil rights” violations — opened up an investigation of the Trayvon Martin race-mongers for the federal offense of soliciting violent crimes, I wouldn’t hand-wring over the specter of tightened constraints on the marketplace of ideas. I would applaud.

Derb was a "heretic." He had to be burned.

I suspect there is some small, but measurable, difference between being let go from a website and being burned at a stake -- but what on earth could it be?

But I almost always learned something from his columns, and, at a time when punditry is increasingly parochial, I appreciated his range of historical and literary allusion (his recent "Duke of Marlborough moment," for example).

that daily caller thing, damn.

- my bike was stolen in a majority-black neighborhood
- "my liberal friend" told me to pray for the thief
- racism against blacks is a fraud
- (my favorite movie was 'in the heat of the night' so i know about race)

When I got home I vented to my friends. I told them I was going to scour those neighborhoods until I found the bike. In reply, a liberal friend gave me a lecture about profiling and told me to just forget about the bike. “That person needs our prayers and help,” she said. “They haven’t had the advantages we have.”

i swear to god this 'liberal friend' pops up in every one of these fuckin articles. i refuse to believe the ppl who write these things have liberal friends.

Q: Hey, you're right, Vibe magazine used to be at 215 Lexington. Are there any black American rap artists you like? Personally I always thought NWA's "Straight Outta Compton" had a good outlook on authority. Also pro-gun.

A: My musical tastes don't venture far from opera.

http://gawker.com/5900452/

i am astounded and weirdly riveted by this fan-hitting and its various responses

also i am curious just how many ppl are aware of it or even know who john derbyshire is

Very few. How many people even know about the National Review?

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/40188_National_Review_Writer_Robert_Weissberg_Attends_White_Nationalist_Gathering

Some other guy attempts some kind of Derb take:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295625/his-own-standard-jason-lee-steorts

yeah the nr is not important at all a a conservative institution, there are probably as many ilx types who read it for laffs as actual readers

In short, the statistical data regarding race and crime are very poor indicators. Think of a black man wearing a fine suit. Would you presume he were likelier to be a criminal than the white punk with his jeans halfway down his hindquarters? Of course not.

Likewise, if you see two people dressed as Crips, one white and one black, should you presume the white one is "safer"? No, you avoid them both unless it's Halloween.