Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

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^ Lou dances Swan Lake in enormous tutu

zappi, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/bobbldr/mypix/Pers_Tools_Music/vu.jpg
i guess Sundazed is putting this out? hmm

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

can't see the tracklisting, is this a reissue of the live vol. 1 or 2...?

Jilly Boel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

i think it's a rejigged version of VU and Another View comprised of studio sessions from 1969. confusing, yes.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

hmm. would maybe purchase... looks nice anyway

Jilly Boel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

It's the "lost" album...huh.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

the lone Velvet's vinyl I have is a random German reissue of the 2nd LP from like 1972. will see if I can find the cover... this would be a nice addition

Jilly Boel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

... the one with the sorta wildly inappropriate Roger Dean-style cover?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

nah, it's this (not German btw, misremembered that bit)

http://www.audiophileusa.com/covers400water/89217.jpg

Jilly Boel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

kinda love it honestly

Jilly Boel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

extensive quotes from David Bowie in the liner notes lol

Jilly Boel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that cover is cool. there's also this one
http://www.minilps.net/images/stories/shop_image/product/velvetshmcd2j.JPG

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

I think I might actually finish the Unterberger book this evening, after several weeks of squinting. It's like those Lewisohn Beatles tomes, numbing in its level of detail but hypnotic after a while.

Other recommended reading?

Brad C., Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

been wanting to read Bockris' trashy bio for years. Local library copy is "library only"! Who the fuck is going to sit in a library and read a Lou Reed bio all day.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

i enjoyed that coffee table NY Art book that came out a couple years back. some great photos, wacky interviews. the new ellen willis anthology has her great VU essay in it (same one from stranded, i believe).
the unterberger book is great, though, it's my fave VU book, even though i rarely agree with his musical assessments (he seems to have no love for the avant garde side of the band). just a ton of info on my favorite band.
bockris bio is pretty trashy, but has some good stuff in it. lou is probably due a better bio at this point.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I'm kinda amazed there aren't more. waiting for him to die I guess.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

lou will outlive us all.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

the comic book told me so
http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy201/Aramchekster/LouReedLivetheBackHolesInSpacemagpg05.jpg

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

Another amazing cover:

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/50b4c3b2b26705a7ed716ffb7c7ce798/2103097.jpg

"Franz Schöler präsentiert die Velvet Underground Story"

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

cover connection, xp:

http://moonsetgallery.com/catalog/images/Dianogah.jpg

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

Who the fuck is going to sit in a library and read a Lou Reed bio all day.

lol 18 y.o. underrated a would have gone back to the library every day for a month until he had the whole book memorized

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

just requested the Bockris book through interlibrary loan ... I'm Waiting for My Librarian

Brad C., Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

Ha, aero otm

zing left unguarded, the j/k palace in flames (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

lol 15 y.o. zappi went to library & looked through microfiche for any references to Warhol/Factory/Velvets or anything even vaguely related. then Up-tight came out, hoo boy.

zappi, Thursday, 12 April 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

Will read my copy of the Unterberger book while awaiting my turn out the community ILX copy of the limited edition memorabilia book

Thunderword ESQ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link

http://blog.chron.com/bookish/files/2012/04/seeing-the-light.jpg
Got this one at the library today.

Trip Maker, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

I've been eyeing that.

I just finished the two Bockris books, Up-Tight (nice photos, other contents superseded by the Unterberger book imo) and Transformer (lots of entertaining dirt but ultimately overwhelming in its Lou-ness; after finishing it, I felt like I had been listening to different versions of "Heroin" on repeat for a few days).

Brad C., Monday, 23 April 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

nice cover on the jovanovic book, though he really isn't a great writer, having read his big star and pavement books. what's the angle on this -- just a history?

tylerw, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

Looks like that. Claims "exclusive" interviews.

Trip Maker, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

I put a notify in it to pick up at the circ desk once it has been processed.
It just feels good in my hands. Not sure how interested I am in actually reading it.
Never read this guy before.

Trip Maker, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

nice cover on the jovanovic book, though he really isn't a great writer, having read his big star and pavement books. what's the angle on this -- just a history?

― tylerw, Monday, April 23, 2012 10:38 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If I'm thinking right that's from a photoshoot from L.A. when the Exploding Plastic Impossible crew went out there. there's a photo of the band with reflection in a window in the photobook version of Uptight which I wish i still had. From what I remember, they're dressed almost exactly the same which is why I'm thinking it's from that shoot. Always stuck in my head at least partially cos I loved Lou's boots in the photo.
Not sure how much i like Uptight without the 60s photos.

The South Bank Show on them from the mid 80s was also pretty tasty.

Stevolende, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that must be the same photo shoot that pretty much every VU book uses for its cover. i guess it's one of the few that features everyone (incl. warhol and nico).
http://www.arrakis.es/~e.miquel/rnranimal/images/books/uptight.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51sUa3al8-L._SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/711VMZHJYVL._SL500_AA300_.gif

tylerw, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.avclub.com/articles/visiting-the-highschool-auditorium-that-introduced,82633/
sort of the ultimate link for this thread. but kind of fun anyway.

tylerw, Thursday, 19 July 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/524435_10151061126258791_637989788_n.jpg
won't be buying this, but it looks cool!

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

Is that new/soon-to-be-released?

Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

Targeted for Late October according to the Sundazed FB page (which I reccomend "like"ing; Irwin is good about answering questions and such).

Hut Stricklin at Lake Speed (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link

Of course, they also spout out lines like this in regards to their product:

You may think you have these albums, but unless you have absolute first pressings, have the first four records in mono, have them all cut from the absolute original masters, and have the rare "closet mix" of the third LP, you really don't "have" these albums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ

Hut Stricklin at Lake Speed (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link

have the first four records in mono

rolling my eyes, 3rd LP was never in mono (some of the singles were)

sleeve, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 04:17 (eleven years ago) link

I remember reading in The Velvet Underground Reader that the mono WL/WH is basically all noise, pure headache music. "The Gift" suffers in particular.

Hut Stricklin at Lake Speed (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 04:22 (eleven years ago) link

You may think you have these albums, but unless you have absolute first pressings, have the first four records in mono, have them all cut from the absolute original masters, and have the rare "closet mix" of the third LP, you really don't "have" these albums.

I "have" these albums.

Also:

I remember reading in The Velvet Underground Reader that the mono WL/WH is basically all noise, pure headache music.

And this is bad how?

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 08:49 (eleven years ago) link

There seems to be some debate about the "mono" 3rd album.

It seems it's the "closet" mix, but it's a 'genuine' mono, not a 'fold-down' of the stereo.

But there seems to be no confirmation about it.

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link

"The Murder Mystery" in mono would seem to defeat the purpose.

Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

it's weird, and kind of awesome, that the Velvet Underground, whose catalog was either OOP or cut-out bin for a good while, has become one of those bands whose stuff can be repackaged & rereleased again & again & again and people will just keep right on buying it

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

And David Fricke will just keep right on writing about it.
mostly curious about the tracklisting they've cooked up for the 1969 sessions (and whether those mixes are markedly diff from VU and Another View).

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

the Velvet Underground, whose catalog was either OOP or cut-out bin for a good while

you sure about this? afaik none of the three canonical albums have ever gone out of print, which would also mean that they have never languished in cut-out bins

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

I thought the 1985 reissue program was the first time the first 3 records were back in print for at least a few years?

Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

technically I don't know. I do know that for several years you used to be able to hit up Rhino, Music Plus, the Wherehouse, Licorice Pizza, and Tower in SoCal and not be able to find anything except the debut & Loaded. And, as we all know, Loaded is a piece of shit and doesn't even count lol

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link

lol
in other news, its sterling morrison's b-day today
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_68orX32dobI/TPRrFdqS3dI/AAAAAAAAC70/NTzHDxIyf5M/s320/SMorrison.jpg

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link


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