I am pretty sure half these dudes own four albums, and three of them are different remasters of Dark Side of the Moon.
― mh, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
is 'midcentury' code for craftsmanship? lol
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
oh, lol, they actually mention that on the second page
― mh, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
can't read the article, gfy nyt
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
you got greedy and wasted all 10 already???
― iatee, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
i love when ned swears. meanwhile, the first person to buy a pair was his HERO anton corbijijn!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
from dude's website
There was a time, in the early part of the Twentieth Century, when the creation of horn loaded loudspeakers, field coil and full range speakers, tube amplifiers, and analog reproduction represented the highest technical challenge and achievement. As time went on, every new innovation in sound, from solid state to digital to file sharing, turned out to bring the overall quality of sound in our lives to a lower level. People not only forgot what great sound reproduction sounded like, but at this point, most have never even heard it.
― mh, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
meanwhile, the first person to buy a pair was his HERO anton corbijijn!
More money than sense, that man.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
xp that is some straight up bullshit. There is no way that a turntable, amp, and speakers from 1950 sounds better than even it's 1980's equivalent.
― they do do doo doo sandwiches (snoball), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
I wonder if the early Misfits still sound like they were recorded in a bathroom on $175k speakers
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
would be fun to invite this guy and his pals for a weeklong sound tasting and then just play Miami Bass 24/7
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
I am sure the best equipment from 1975 sounds better than laptop speakers, yeah
― mh, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
old speakers do sound heavenly. to me. i will say that. i mean for analog sound i would definitely prefer older speakers. they were made for it. not so nowadays. unless some freak like this makes you a custom pair.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, wtf? the 20s-50s as the golden age of tru audio fidelity? complete bullshit.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
I think it was scott who had some pioneer speakers in a pic that I have -- I got lucky and finally grabbed my dad's 1972-vintage ones. Which, sure, old.. but I think he paid $1k for two speakers and a receiver back then. I think you can get some pretty fucking nice speakers for the 2012 equivalent of $1k.
― mh, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
ya'll ever listen to those 78rpm discs they were making up into the mid-fifties? those things sound gorgeous! way better than any lp from the 1980s that i can think of.
hell, even crank victrolas with one-use steel needles playing electrically recorded discs (the nice ones like victor scrolls, columbia vivatonals and okeh electric's) from the late 20s sound better than a lot of records from the 1980s imo. but that is a contrarian position perhaps.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
to clarify the first part of that post, i mean 78s produced in the mid-fifties not everything leading up to that point. duh. they really had it down by then! and the faster it spins, the better it sounds..
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-150557.html
― one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
faster spin = better sound is true, but beyond that...
disagree about steel needle crank victrolas of whatever sort sounding better than even midrange quality amplified electromagnetic speakers
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
imo there is a liveness to that sound that makes up for the lack of definition--which has more to do with the way it was recorded than the way it's being reproduced. idk, i don't think abt it much, but listening to mid-50s 78s is a good experience for someone who wants to hear an obviously 'better' sound than their mp3s or ipod can provide. just ranbling here.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
http://nymag.com/news/features/artisanal-brooklyn-2012-4/
ffs.
― s.clover, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 04:29 (twelve years ago) link
like 2/3 of all nymag cover stories are trollgaze.
― s.clover, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 04:30 (twelve years ago) link
eh seems mostly fine to me
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
it would.
― s.clover, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:14 (twelve years ago) link
weren't you mourning the death of american manufacturing jobs in another thread?
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:16 (twelve years ago) link
right. so everyone should just make some overpriced fucking pickles and yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait. great plan adam smith.
― s.clover, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:21 (twelve years ago) link
No health plan? Home getting repossessed? There's always etsy!
― s.clover, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:23 (twelve years ago) link
ta
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:25 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not suggesting the etsy business model is gonna save america, just that it's not 'a bad thing'
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:25 (twelve years ago) link
i'm going to make cat bacon by the way. can't fail.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:26 (twelve years ago) link
whimsical microbrewery to the world/artisanal knife maker, flea market of bent wire/city of skinny jeans.
― s.clover, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:28 (twelve years ago) link
why is the 'brooklyn' brand really any more ridiculous than any other brand in 2012?
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:31 (twelve years ago) link
iatee's kinda right btw. so's s.clover. the yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait model has advantages in that it's essentially a patronage system for artisanal craftspeople with some pr savvy, and at its best, it can divert a significant amount of money (relatively speaking) into the hands of third-world producers. that's all to the good! downside, of course, is that it's a small niche market, like making paintings, horseshoes or beer for the aristocracy. only a few get to play at that level, and sadly, in the modern age, those few tend to be slumming aristocrats.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:31 (twelve years ago) link
i lived in brooklyn. as a result, i would never buy "brooklyn industries" crap if my life depended on it. the very idea makes my skin crawl. exploiters pimping out the very fact of their exploitation. no. i will not play that game. even mcdonalds is less offensive. it at least is content to mean absolutely nothing.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
what are they exploiting, it's just a word
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:35 (twelve years ago) link
ah, come on, nothing is ever "just" anything
everything means something, really means a bunch of different things, depending on your perspective
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:41 (twelve years ago) link
there's a strange and obstinate sort of literalism to your vision. i respect its consistency but just can't embrace it.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:43 (twelve years ago) link
people buy the stupidest shit, and not just people in brooklyn, people everywhere. there are about 5 billion times as many designer t-shirts in the world as designer jars of pickles. somebody created a new market for something via branding? great, one more person with a job.
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:59 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, that part i'm cool with. more power to the creatively inclined! don't mean i gotta pay $18 dollars for your jar of merely adequate pickles. or embrace your hives-inducing "made in brooklyn" branding.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 06:07 (twelve years ago) link
i lived in brooklyn. as a result, i would never buy "brooklyn industries" crap if my life depended on it.
lol @ u
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 10:57 (twelve years ago) link
it's almost as if there is something inherently, almost commodifiably authentic about the true Brooklyn spirit
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 11:19 (twelve years ago) link
there's a certain type of noxious boosterism that attaches to some neighborhoods/boroughs, for instance hackney in london is approaching brooklyn levels of boastful swag, you see shirts that say things like "proper east" on them, but you don't see the same things in quite the same quantity or force in places like brixton or queens
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 11:23 (twelve years ago) link
and i'm not sure why, like what determines these almost hysterical levels of neighborhood "pride" or whatever
"i lived in hollister, california and i wouldn't buy 'hollister' crap if my life depended on it."
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 11:30 (twelve years ago) link
it's funny what those things connote, as well; I remember hearing about the Wilmslow credit card that was available to certain Mancunians at I guess some point in the '90s, speaking to one's success & place; or conversely the M21 branded tote bags you can get in the sorta right-on area of Chorlton in Manchester today, identifying you as an environmentally conscious resident.xp
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 11:32 (twelve years ago) link
i buy local pickles :(
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 12:05 (twelve years ago) link
but everyone made fun of them on here cuz they were "fermented" instead of "pickled". :(
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 12:06 (twelve years ago) link
you try and make a pickle!
at least they're fucking trying! what the fuck have you done!? happy 50th birthday ian mackaye. sucks that you had to ruin the washington dc brand though you sanctimonious humorless hand-crafted straightedge bastard!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 12:07 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.viceland.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ianmackaye.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 12:12 (twelve years ago) link