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oh for sure. like i think something that gets obscured by weird, mathematical/geometrical analysis of 'pictures' is that so much of the specific appeal of pictures is way more communicative & human than that, it's how much we can read from environments or from expressions. like if you showed our canon of best-phots to another species, say bears, they would go for totally different pics, because they wouldn't be interested in the subtle nuances of mood & manifest familiar behaviour. still looking through those pics but they're v nice.

john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 13 April 2012 12:25 (twelve years ago) link

http://hiranotakaci.jp/pic/tottoriukraine/0808/080812-2.jpg

i just like looking at pictures of her too honestly and it was this horrible feeling that brought me to tears the first time i clicked thru the whole thing and came to the series where you see his apartment emptied out and a picture of her (m, she's referred to) in bed in her crowded tiny apartment laying in bed face against the wall and then these three smiling matter of fact flat pictures of her and you see them eating at the turkish place where you saw them eat when they came back from central asia and then there's a photo captioned "契約の解除をもって、わたしとmの恋人関係は解消された。 We ended the contract about our relationship. That meant we had broken our relathionship./" and she disappears. the pictures are so good it would work even without the minimal captioning.

dylannn, Friday, 13 April 2012 12:46 (twelve years ago) link

do you have a link to the first entry? these are v good even individually

john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

http://hiranotakaci.jp/pic/tottoriukraine/0801/080126.html is the oldest one i can see but i just emailed to ask for the earliest

dylannn, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

ty. i love diaries, it's nice people are doing it on film, like the barnacles person or ruinista. it's like breadmaking or something, to have got to the stage where it's just part of your routine, dropping off/scanning/chronicling. i was on a local photographer guy's site, recently, & he had a section with photos going back to 2000, showing younger, angelic incarnations of some people i know. it just becomes such a good archive. all of your days.

john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link

what you wrote about this is so otm; just seeing their life is really enthralling, all the times they're just going somewhere with a heavy bag or collapsing to eat in a room

http://hiranotakaci.jp/pic/tottoriukraine/0803/080305-8.jpg

john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

just to bring the tone down, can anyone work out what camera he's using:
http://hiranotakaci.jp/pic/tottoriukraine/0803/080315.html

john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

maybe an autofocus/autoexposure canon eos kinda thing??

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

just in case it's driving anyone mad: http://hiranotakaci.jp/pic/tottoriukraine/0805/080524.html

i'm only curious, about film, too, the colours in his stuff are really beautiful

http://hiranotakaci.jp/pic/tottoriukraine/0805/080505-4.jpg
http://hiranotakaci.jp/pic/tottoriukraine/0805/080505-5.jpg

john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 13 April 2012 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

(oh)

john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 13 April 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

he uses a nikon his ex uses a canon, that's probably why they broke up

swaghand (dayo), Friday, 13 April 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

http://hiranotakaci.jp/pic/tottoriukraine/1107/110727.html

new girl uses pentax btw

dylannn, Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:23 (twelve years ago) link

awww i hadn't got to new girl yet! spoilers
but i am glad. not to overshare but the main thing i am getting from this is sweet memories for the times you have a camera & a girlfriend & you shoot all day

john-claude van donne (schlump), Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:37 (twelve years ago) link

in keeping with the news, I think this is kind of an amazing photo

http://i.imgur.com/E3o4i.jpg

swaghand (dayo), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:24 (twelve years ago) link

it's like a flag

john-claude van donne (schlump), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:25 (twelve years ago) link

hah the barbs and stripes

also:

http://www.americansuburbx.com/2011/04/theory-point-and-shoot-how-abu-ghraib.html

(warning: some graphic photos)

thought this made some pretty good points about the role of the image* post-digital and post-blogging and post-social media networks

In any case, it seems fair to agree with Sontag and say that photographs no longer serve mainly as first drafts of history, or ciphers of memory, or treasures of affection, or any of the other high-sounding social functions ascribed to them in the twentieth century. They now are simply visual talk. And rarely are they capable of complete or coherent sentences–they speak in a contemporary patois of whatevers and what have yous.

I think framing pictures now in terms of literacy, of language, maybe gets more at the role they play in the world today

*there's probably some artcrit or critspeak thing out there that ascribes difference and importance in the space that exists between the terms image, picture, photograph, capture, blah blah blah

swaghand (dayo), Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:38 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/photobooth/2012/04/bruce-davidson-los-angeles.html

this is put together like it's gonna turn into an inspirational cellphone advert but it's p interesting regardless

john-claude van donne (schlump), Saturday, 14 April 2012 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

http://hiranotakaci.jp/pic/tottoriukraine/0808/080804.html
real good one

john-claude van donne (schlump), Saturday, 14 April 2012 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

i just like looking at pictures of her too honestly and it was this horrible feeling that brought me to tears the first time i clicked thru the whole thing and came to the series where you see his apartment emptied out and a picture of her (m, she's referred to) in bed in her crowded tiny apartment laying in bed face against the wall and then these three smiling matter of fact flat pictures of her and you see them eating at the turkish place where you saw them eat when they came back from central asia and then there's a photo captioned "契約の解除をもって、わたしとmの恋人関係は解消された。 We ended the contract about our relationship. That meant we had broken our relathionship./" and she disappears. the pictures are so good it would work even without the minimal captioning.

^^^^^

john-claude van donne (schlump), Saturday, 14 April 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

photography is the best

catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

I need more irl photo bros

one of my dudes is an actual professional photo/videographer but partly because of that we have very different ~ideas~ about photography as such and can really only talk shop in a technical sense

I mean <3 the dude but he shows up to casual functions with a 5d that has one of those viewfinders that goes over the screen and I'm like c'mon man, keep it social

catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

ha ha
idk that's interesting to me. i think i probably have various small aesthetic partitions between me and some certain friends, to do with what films they like and what music they think is good, & photography is at a strange angle with that. a couple of friends were in town and i was showing them around & they had little digital cameras & it was so interesting what made them stop & shoot. like we walked through this real nice neighbourhood with great houses, where you'd look through the window & there'd be a table w/a box of cereal & loads of empty chairs, sunlit, like residential family life made photographable, then someone's neatly cultivated garden, then a plaque on a house about how the guy from penguin books lived there a hundred years ago, & the streets make dramatic angles as they turn into each other, & saucer magnolia trees were in bloom, & all they were taking photos of was the graffiti closer to town. YOU PHILISTINES. but what i mean is that it feels like what a photo-bro is invested in is a really personal strand of looking at things or relates to what you intend a photograph to be - like a reminder or a document or a synecdoche or w/e. like even if you just intend to take an orderly photograph doing justice to something as a monument or a messy, subjective photo of something as experienced.

i think a good thing about having international photobros is that you're reminded of the specific value of someone's locality, like of how fairly mundane streets-of-my-neighbourhood phots might be interesting to someone far away, the way takaci's japan's super beguiling when unfamiliar.

john-claude van donne (schlump), Sunday, 15 April 2012 09:22 (twelve years ago) link

http://todayspictures.slate.com/20120411/

dayo, Monday, 16 April 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago) link

Most of my collaborative foto work is w/, like, illustrator and designer friends. I can't imagine rolling around for lols and talking shop w/ other photographers. We (my circle of photo kids) are all too self-centered and suspicious to do anything but drink together

Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 16 April 2012 05:42 (twelve years ago) link

If I could play nice with other people I'd have gone into film.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 16 April 2012 06:14 (twelve years ago) link

I went into film and still don't play nice.

Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 16 April 2012 06:25 (twelve years ago) link

oh. t.b. continues.

dylannn, Monday, 16 April 2012 10:37 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16509382

so sinatra coming out of the helicopter was shot by yul brynner!

dayo, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link


First one (started on 27th, jul, 2002):
http://hiranotakaci.jp/pic/tottoriukraine/0207/020727-1.html
But it doesn't continue till the recent page. I mean, there is a big
blank of the work.

The second start (since 16th, dec, 2004):
http://hiranotakaci.jp/pic/tottoriukraine/0412/041216.html

Old photos are small, because the spec of comp was much worse than now.

dylannn, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 03:27 (twelve years ago) link

oh wow. thanks so much! i am still working through this. still kinda acclimatising to ukraine but it's nice seeing he has a muse again. after the break up i was so depressed to see him just taking picture of like the sandwich he was eating or something, it's too much.

john-claude van donne (schlump), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

just came across this arbus and think it's stunning: woman with a veil on 5th avenue

http://i.imgur.com/FjlOP.jpg

dayo, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

I feel like this might have been posted already? But anyway, I'm really enjoying it tonight. And I admit that part of that is due to the close-mic'd vocals, which is something that generally sends shivers up my spine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q75HuLN9FjA

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 19 April 2012 03:53 (twelve years ago) link

http://todayspictures.slate.com/20120412/

I like being able to look at magnum photos w/o the watermark

dayo, Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link

http://karapture.wordpress.com/ - linked on TOP today, definite WKIW candidate

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

great previously unpublished winogrand pictures from the 1960 democratic national convention: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/22/magazine/winogrand-look.html?hp

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

wow those are really nice

catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:55 (twelve years ago) link

yeah wow. flat like william klein.

blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 20 April 2012 09:32 (twelve years ago) link

hah, I don't see much klein in them but winogrand's fingerprints are all over those pictures. notice all the pretty ladies!

dayo, Friday, 20 April 2012 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKbFAPq75UI

bet yall seen this before but i like
this little video of daido moriyama shooting with lil point and shoots

dylannn, Sunday, 22 April 2012 03:27 (twelve years ago) link

http://zaijietou.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ere.jpg

dylannn, Sunday, 22 April 2012 05:37 (twelve years ago) link

Japanese photographer using medium format P&Ss, possibly on a beach - anyone know who I'm thinking of? I thought Daido Moriyama was him but no searches seem to pull up the work.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 22 April 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.emphas.is/web/guest/discoverprojects?projectID=616

dylannn, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

not an answer to the question above obv but
overwrought advertising for rian dundon in changsha photobook that looks kinda dope

dylannn, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:06 (twelve years ago) link

yes rian dundon is great

Idk if I've posted this yet but my favorite photography blog probably is http://internethistory.tumblr.com/

nb: the dude just scours the web, usually other people's photo albums, iirc

dayo, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2011/dec/01/train-thought-subway-photographs/

bruce davidson on taking pictures on the train in the 80s

doesn't mention that he used to go in there with plainclothes cops though!

http://www.complex.com/city-guide/2012/02/1980s-photo-shows-undercover-nypd-holding-thief-at-gunpoint

dayo, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

the writeup of that story is so juicy.

i took a trip somewhere yesterday & shot a whole roll of ilford delta 100, which i've never used before. i find photo-pushing math really hard, but i pushed to 400 & overexposed a little, assuming that I had to give the paper a little more light, since i'd set it if it were more sensitive than it was, all of this hoping to get something a little more contrasty than i usually get out of 100 speed bw film. googling around, though (for general pushing advice), it sounds like delta 100 pretty much isn't intended for that kind of leap. i'm gonna mention it to the shop, who are sending the film away, but i'm kinda nervous. i think i shot a really nice roll, & it was light whenever i was shooting, so part of me feels like it can't go terribly wrong. but i feel pretty stupid.

blossom smulch (schlump), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

dug this up for something else but the more i look at this, the more i'm convinced it's an amazing picture

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/296504_10101263353705980_1532196224_n.jpg

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

like, formally, even

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.sfmoma.org/explore/multimedia/videos/484

Stephen Shore artist talk at SFMOMA

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 27 April 2012 00:21 (twelve years ago) link


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