Dave Chappelle - "Killin' 'Em Softly"

These are already a little old, but I hadn't seen them before. Dude's even funnier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbS9jZOlQjc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kth0UOU5a_M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLWlBgj0uOc

Yep. Just watched all of those last weekend. They're really good.

What the fuck is juice? I want some apple drink. It's green.

― wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:36 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

man i was thinking about this bit the other day for some reason

It's the way he says it, the delivery. It's just hilarious.

i kept hearing "i want that purple stuff...." in my head over and over

"Black people are bad bargaining" chips always cracks me up

Killin' 'Em Softly is the funniest hour any comedian has ever put together, T or F?

TRUE, MOTHERFUCKERS!

Hard to argue with that.

Did I tell the story about how I scared DC out of a Peets in downtown SF in this thread? I still feel bad/embarrassed about that.

the way he says uh-unh seals the deal in the 'black people are bad bargaining chips' story.

http://www.believermag.com/issues/201310/?read=article_ghansah

http://www.believermag.com/issues/201310/img/article_ghansah.png

Kills me every time I see it.

^ just read that the other day. Great piece.

I still giggle like hell every time I see the Pop Copy sketch.

"Some people ask 'why? why treat the customer this way?'. Why? Cause FUCK EM, that's why!"

Millionaire draws-from-photos spot illos for p much every Believer interview btw

Header illos.

Just watched the Popcopy sketch again. It's the best.

"Hell yeah I suck toes. Welcome to Pop Copy"

"My butt itches"

kinda weird that people are still writing stories about the "mystery" of Dave Chappelle

I mean that piece was good but I didn't learn anything I already know/added nothing

catching the tour in town tonight. I don't know how we got so lucky.

!!!!!!!!!

We saw the 9:30 show, which was dangerous bc he did a 7 show earlier tonight. He came out and admitted that he'd been drinking a little, which was noticeable in the beginning. But then he just absolutely killed it. So wonderful.

Got the impression that the 7 crowd maybe sucked

still a fav

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo-ddYhXAZc

watched the new Netflix special and laughed a lot, with some reservations about some of his stereotyping stuff (which, tbf, is probably his intention). He attempts to walk a very fine line all the way through it, swinging (very self-consciously and openly) towards stuff he knows will be offensive one second and then veering back to the audience's comfort zone the next. For example, equating Manny Paquiao with MLK via a "what if MLK had a Nike shoe endorsement" joke (Chappelle's take is that they would both lose their endorsements because their both controversial, while eliding the implied equivalency of Paquiao's homophobia w MLK's activism). A more obvious example is a bit that skewers a stereotypical gay Hollywood producer type, but is paired with a bit making fun of a rich redneck Texan. And there are bunch of rape jokes (OJ, Cosby, etc.) It's compelling in its audacity but I wasn't on board w all of it.

I thought the Cosby/OJ stuff came off better, if only because he was coming from a place of liking those guys in the first place

yeah I agree and even my wife laughed at the "ice cream" joke re: Cosby. the meetings w OJ framing device was good.

part 1 > part2, but I had heard many of the part2 jokes

The man.

word on these specials has been dire from all my friends. i'm surprised they were taped in April 2015 and March 2016

i laughed a bit but i confess i was hoping to laugh a lot harder. and the rape/gay stuff seemed kinda tired and not worth the really long stories. he seems happy and healthy though. maybe that's bad for comedy...

i do like him and his delivery and he's just really good at it but some of the material didn't seem to justify the length of the stories like the one about his kid at school and the sandwiches. cosby would have made that story work better actually.

part 2 def better then part 1. he seems a bit bored in part one. part 2 is sparkier. but i think its a weird time for a comic like him. peoples rules for what is acceptable have changed so much. you either have to be a comfort humour kind of comedian like aziz ansari (i cant think of anyone else as a better example right now) who is often just helping the audience feel superior in their beliefs, or you can be like chappelle, and skirt a very thin line between pissing people off, and not troubling their belief systems. people want to laugh, but they dont want to be seen laughing at stuff they deem ethically troubling, or, they think laughing = agreeing. generally people are worried what their laughs say about them. either way, there were maybe too many rape jokes, hes gotten more sexist and homophobic as hes gotten older, but i also see these shows kind of as chappelle trying to piss off liberals. so maybe a case of the wrong targets, but either way, hes still funny.

Birbiglia is another comfort humor type

Funniest bit to me in the whole two hours was Dave taking his son to see Kevin Hart's arena show.

Disagree that the Austin half was better than the Hollywood half. He seems like he was winging it half the time in Austin, and he could probably pull that off 15 years ago, but it didn't work out so well now.

Gaffigan (who I like a lot) is kinda the playonic ideal of the 'safe' comic imo

Funniest bit to me in the whole two hours was Dave taking his son to see Kevin Hart's arena show.

Yes. "Oh thank you so much Mr. Hart, we haven't eaten in HOURS!"

I'm still having difficulty getting used to looking at swole Dave, it's so off-putting. Was also very distracted by his constant placing of foot upon monitor during part 2. In part 1 he was all about the slow belly rub through his weird jacket with the C embroidered on the sleeve. Dave, I love you, I think you're a terrific guy, but you have clothes like a fucking dickhead. Still good at jokes though.

i watched these both last night, they were pretty great. i liked the whole analogy where knowing some kids are starving in China doesn't do anything for you if you are hungry. you are still going to be hungry. also putting on an argyle sweater =/= getting a good loan at the bank that was pretty good. felt like a lot of his identity politics jokes were about deconstructing the power dynamics. it was refreshing to see a comedian talk about that stuff wo it being the usual whiny tired self-victimizing "It's so hard for comedians/why is everyone PC these days?" angle.

the transphobia and "pro-life vs anti-responsibility" line or whatever that was were pretty huge bummers for me

how so? the person was super drunk and exposing themselves at a party. Dave called them out on it.

if the word "Tranny" is triggering to you, then yeah, i could see how this would be a bummer. but that whole bit was about people being upset by his response in the first place!

that bit actually bothered me when I saw him live because he basically was casting shade against being respectful and referring to the individual the way they preferred to me ("why do *I* gotta change my pronoun game?") and using "well her dick is out" as a 'lol not REALLY a female, see' laugh.

p sure Dave isn't anti-trans or gay, doesn't mean the joke wasn't mean-spirited though. it bothered me a little more when I saw him because he said something like "gay people had a good year, give them a hand", and then me and like maybe 5 other people cheered and everybody else sat silent but of course erupted at the gay/transsexual jokes.

Dave though has always had some lame opinions and has also been known to get historical facts way wrong, but usually he tended to keep a lot of that out of his comedy.

that said, I did like the first special.

also "tranny" is considered a slur in most circles

yeah, thinking back on the special, i can see there being a lot of stuff in there that can be seen as against the cause. still i didn't think anything he said was hateful. he is from an older generation now, he's using older references.

i liked when the guy asked him why he wasn't doing a boycott and he said he'd been boycotting for 10 years

his pettiness about key and peele is off-putting

he is from an older generation now, he's using older references.

He's five months older than me. I don't do that shit.

his pettiness about key and peele is off-putting

wasn't this like a 5 second joke?

He's five months older than me. I don't do that shit.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, March 26, 2017 7:15 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

did you quit your Comedy Central show too?

it is possible to acknowledge that we don't think Chappelle is actively campaigning to impede LGBTQ rights and concede that he may actually be in favor of them while also acknowledging that the jokes were in poor taste.

it didn't ruin my overall enjoyment of the set but it was v uncomfortable during that one particular part.