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somebody crosspost them into an artisanal smash thread

They look a lot like the couple that ran the admittedly pretty good vintage shop in my old neighborhood -- slightly too old to be dressed the way they are, hipsterish style that's just slightly off, faint traces of the bitterness of a prior failed or unhappy career behind their eyes

faint traces of the bitterness of a prior failed or unhappy career behind their eyes

This is basically indistinguishable from "hungover" after a certain age. I'm all for it.

Also aren't YOU Judgey Judgerson.

yeah, idk what sort of clothing is age appropriate if you're a mayonnaise artisan

a certain something is missing from contenderizer's logo evolution post there...

goes in after teh weezer, right?

i'm kind of liking "artisanal people" way better than "hipsters" atm

"Well, we can immediately eliminate the ones where everyone has a car and disappears into the house at 6pm every day."

yeah i love where we live but i don't know our immediate neighbors at all. i never ever see them. they never sit on their porches out front. and they all have amazing porches. we've lived here since last august in this house and i couldn't tell you what the people who live directly across the street from us look like!

so nice when nice young couple moved in about a month ago two doors down. they are excited to be here like us and happy to get amazing cheap house and i invited them in the other day. feel like we are in similar boats. most of the other people on this block have probably been here forever. the only reason we know our next door neighbor is because we share a driveway. highly doubtful he would have said two words to us otherwise. but we have plenty of friends in town! and more coming all the time. younger people. families. it's all good.
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almost 20 houses on this block and not one person said a word to us when we moved in. and still have never said a word. except for the guy next door. i don't know if that's weird or what. we made cookies for the people who just moved in. and introduced ourselves.

People who don't use their porches don't deserve 'em imo.

something i noticed at someone's house recently. if you own two or more whiskey bottle-looking bottles that aren't filled with whiskey...you may be a fan of the artisanal. you know, like hand-crafted vinegar or small-batch maple syrup or whatever. its a good look though.

i'm the only person on our block who hangs on the front porch. mostly to smoke, but still...i feel self-conscious sometimes. but i'm getting over it. our porch is awesome. i NEVER see people on their porches in greenfield! and this town is like the land of awesome porches! almost every house has an amazing front porch or back porch or both. or a wraparound porch.

People where I live don't even HAVE porches, they just have stoops, and they will sit outside for hours and hours just chatting to everyone who walks by. I kind of love it, but I covet all of the porches in the places that aren't New York.

I have an enclosed space that is more of a sunroom than a porch, and then a little porch deck out my front door that's small but big enough for one person to sit in a chair or maybe a couple people to stand around smoking or something. My neighbors have a large open porch they sit on all the time. It's nice, it's somewhere to sit outdoors that's just semi-outdoors.

haha, was going to say that artisanal mayo is some bullshit but I'm jealous of that dude because I'm pretty sure he gets (or could get) way more play than I do.

'what if we tried it this time with...mayo'

xpost He gets way more opportunities to spread his "artisanal mayonnaise"

ew ew ew ew ew lol

'this sandwich could use a little...mayo'

dnw ammonia-flavored mayo

Man nothing better than some fresh warm mayo squirted on some on some nice warm buns amirite

I have a big back deck that is rarely used.

some idiot former owner built a deck-like thing behind my house that has no conceivable use other than to make it easy to peer into my bedroom window. removing it pretty soon.

house I'm in now has a nice deck on the back, it was awesome for the four parties we've had here
of course, the only time it's actually been used was those four parties

Man nothing better than some fresh warm mayo squirted on some on some nice warm buns amirite

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I have a big back deck that is rarely used.

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lol forever

yessssss

mayo lady apparently writes for esquire.com

this thread is tl;dr and i know someone else has probably already said this

but i have really lost faith in anything labeled "artisanal" or "heritage" or "handcrafted" or whatever being any better than run of the mill shit, which i honestly believe to be a side-effect of the proliferation of this shit as marketing tool.

worth noting that 'artisan' once solely described producers of durable & decorative goods, describing food producers as artisans is a v recent development

Mayo lady is a million feet tall and amazing looking and makes faces for the camera more often than she looks into it, judging by the gis, and is my new hero. WWEVD? She'd make a face to distract you and then slam your drink. And write about it.

sometimes yes, sometimes no. i mean, i know who makes good bread, cheese, chocolate and cured meats locally, and most of my favorite beers are produced in small quantities. whether an "artisanal" beeswax candle is any better than what you'd get at the mall store is more of a judgement call.

i do think that there's real value in supporting small, ethical local businesses wherever possible, even if their stuff isn't markedly better than what you can get at the supermarket.

xp to elmo

WEABLTW

i do think that there's real value in supporting small, ethical local businesses wherever possible

IMO the small ethical local business in my neighborhood is the burrito shop across the street, not the jackasses who just built a huge ugly new bar decorated w/ pista frames and repurposed wood and are charging $10 for a plate of homemade sauerkraut using local cabbage

i was pining for an artisanal burrito today, not gonna lie.

i just looked up pista frames. they are part of a bicycle!

they want $20 for two sausages and a piece of homemade bread

fuk u guyz i can do that in the comfort of my own home for half the price, even if i was a fool and went to whole foods for it

re tlg & ethics: yeah, it's a judgment call

nothing wrong with locavores, imo, though the eco-yupster trappings do sometimes grate. and i expect to pay more at a decent restaurant than i would at home. i'm cool with that, though i don't often have money to spare on that kind of thing. happy hour imo.

localvores should eat people

Preferably themselves.

eh, i can't get too worked up about it. good for the environment, good for the local economy. stuff that hasn't been shipped around the world is generally healthier and tastes better. i like the "pig lady" who sells homemade sausages at the farmers market. i like growing my own food.

actually there is no guarantee that locavorism is good for the environment, there was a very recent NYT editorial (last week?) that cited some studies showing that a lot of "sustainable" and "ethical" practices re: livestock farming were actually worse for the environment than traditional farming

the writer was not a good industry hack but a pro-veg dude arguing that all meat consumption is inherently unsustainable, not that I give a fuck but score one against locavores

I was feeling all smug as I was ready to post a "Portlandia is artisanal TV comedy," but someone already name-checked the show upthread.

Back to crafting small-run artisanal PHP code.

is yr code /usr/local/src?

i understand the same is true for many non-meat practices, esp if you can get away w charging a high premium for what you do you don't have much incentive to be efficient

ie how is it any better to buy vegetables grown in San diego rather than the central valley if the water comes from colorado or lake shasta?

exposto

i can't say that really convinces me of anything. would have to know more about the article to really respond. from what i can tell, the people who are most deeply involved in sustainable and ethical livestock farming tend to be pretty well-informed about environmental impact. and like any subject, there will always be disagreement regarding what is, in fact, better and worse.

locavorism is a relatively recent movement driven, for the most part, by genuine ethical and environmental concern. plus lol yuppie narcissism if you wish. while it may not always get everything right, it seems more likely to respond to valid lessons about what it gets wrong than commercial agriculture.

ie how is it any better to buy vegetables grown in San diego rather than the central valley if the water comes from colorado or lake shasta?

that's a fair point, but it's obvious that it's "better" in some ways to grow vegetables in your backyard, provided you do it responsibly, than it is to have them shipped in from chile or wherever. between the two extremes, you arrive at a pretty solid in-principle defense of locavorism, imo.

yes well what has ever convinced contenderizer of anything, certainly not evidence and reasoning