seriously, it's really b/w Friedman and Brooks. Douthat is awful, but he's awful b/c he's pretty upfront about being a wingnut. Brooks has his fake centrist nonsense -- and he's a Mets fan -- but only a complete pinhead who's spent the last decade or so locked in a closet can't see through his schtick at this point.
so Friedman it is.
― a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:38 (eleven years ago) link
i assume that brooks and douthat have a sinister purpose behind everything they write, so while i no doubt disagree, it at least makes sense.
friedman just seems clueless and is a terrible writer. 'my cab driver in cairo' etc good lord.
― mookieproof, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link
well the clueless head in the clouds thing is what makes it marginally more defensible, like he's just this crazy guy talking to you on the bus
― iatee, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
Friedman the crazy guy on the bus talking nonsense whilst drooling on his overcoat also has the ear of the President and a shockingly large number of Democratic movers and shakers. that's why i voted for him.
― a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:44 (eleven years ago) link
I'll be the contrarian and say Douthat, the only one who creates the blip of an impression that he's read other things besides editorials and policy statements. Also, I saw him in the queer part of Dupont Circle in 2009 in the company of what looked like a Provincetown bartender.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ sounds like infidelity
also, aren't we voting for the worst?
― mookieproof, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
yes
― iatee, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
Friedman's latest column is a masterpiece of cowardice and stupidity:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/opinion/friedman-one-for-the-country.html?_r=1
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
I'll vote for Friedman as worst because he's taken most seriously. The right wing doesn't even take Brooks seriously.
voted Douthat cause i hate the way he couches intolerant/ugly sentiments in the deceptive rhetoric of "reason" and "balance"
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
alfred OTM on what makes Friedman the worst of this entire sorry lot.
― a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
Brooks would win on photos alone
http://www.againstcronycapitalism.org/wp-content/uploads/David-Brooks.jpg
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
ross is "known" in conservative circles for his impeccable sense of style
http://images.nymag.com/news/intelligencer/encounter/encounter120326_250.jpg
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:56 (eleven years ago) link
douthat's face def bothers me the most
― iatee, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:00 (eleven years ago) link
motherfucker just looks SOFT
http://www.charlierose.com/images_toplevel/content/10/1051/segment_10518_460x345.jpg
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
brooks is the worst. friedman is ok minus the globalization shtick.
― bnw, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
Douthat looks like a late 30-something version of Paul Dano's character from the extra man.
― a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
Douthat still thinks it's 1995.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
Jonah Goldberg has the same delusion.
i was hoping this thread title was something that happened.
― goole, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:10 (eleven years ago) link
what is douthat's shtick, as compared to brooks' red/blue staters are like *this* and friedman's absurd metaphors that lead nowhere?
― mookieproof, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:10 (eleven years ago) link
He's a Christian whose hands shake at the suspicion that libs might think he hates gays and women.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
he's not one of those republican extremists - heavens - tho he takes pains to diplomatically point out how liberals/women/gays/muslims/etc bring problems on themselves
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:18 (eleven years ago) link
that's right
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
a concern troll then; how innovative
― mookieproof, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link
if forced at gunpoint to read one of the three every day for the rest of my life i'd still choose douthat
friedman... just pull the trigger
― yologram (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
your doppelganger
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
while we also talk about their merits as writers, how about we also turn this into a MFK thread?
― yologram (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
when i was working a (very good and non-depressing) temp job at a financial planning group, the well meaning 50 something jewish libs frequently discussed friedman columns in reverent hushed tones... first time i'd ever heard anyone irl bring dude up as a serious columnist
― yologram (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:48 PM (43 minutes ago)
^^
― pleural eff u son (k3vin k.), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link
i still find that less distasteful (or at least more garden variety) than friedman's schtick
― yologram (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:36 (eleven years ago) link
all three are vile of course
NYT doesn't really have any 'very good' writers as columnists. i mean krugman's always worth a read but even following charles m blow on twitter has tempered my like of him
― pleural eff u son (k3vin k.), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:37 (eleven years ago) link
krugman is a very good writer
― iatee, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
i'd heard that 'from beirut to jerusalem' was good, but find it a little hard to credit now -- perhaps the subject matter restrained him from making it an archetypical global fable, as with everything else?
― mookieproof, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i changed my mind after i wrote his name and didn't bother to change my first statement haha xp
― pleural eff u son (k3vin k.), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
charles m blow seems ripe for display name puns, now that i think of it
The late William Safire was the only one who could occasionally write a sentence I'd read twice.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link
i agree that krugman is worth reading and i always do but i am often smh at the way he seems to be preaching to the choir, he takes such a hard line that even though he's right he sort of paints himself into an ideological corner that just inflames the right instead of engaging him
obv that's not entirely or even largely his fault but i feel like he's wielding a battle axe when should be using the rapier
― the late great, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:46 (eleven years ago) link
lol ross douchehat
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
brooks is like the bill gates looking dude in the back of newsweek who even though i am on the other side of the political spectrum i find myself agreeing with or at least appreciating the differing view cause his tone is measured
really love the loyal opposition guy though
― the late great, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link
Krugman has given up on trying to talk w/ the shit-throwing baboons who call themselves conservatives these days. i don't blame him at all, it's really the most sensible approach.
i'll also stan for Nicholas Kristof.
― a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:52 (eleven years ago) link
Krugman is a classic example of a pundit with whom I agree often but whose prose is pedestrian at best (boy, does he love his rhetorical questions).
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:53 (eleven years ago) link
douthat = least stupid/ most hateful
― it's smdh time in America (will), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
krugman = shrillbrooks/douthat = reasonable
does this perception hurt k-thug or not?
― mookieproof, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
friedman at the very least seems interested in interesting things
― it's smdh time in America (will), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
haha otm
― iatee, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
interested in reducing them to a catch phrase?
― mookieproof, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
THE WORLD IS NOT FLAT; SHUT UP
― mookieproof, Friday, 20 April 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
^^haha fair enough. still, the other two (esp Douthat) are kind of just dicks. if you're going to be a dick, you'd better be right and/ or interesting
― it's smdh time in America (will), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
I feel like I could get thomas friedman to change his mind on a lot of things if you just framed it in the 'interesting thoughts about interesting things' way, and maybe if you dressed up a a taxi driver
― iatee, Friday, 20 April 2012 02:03 (eleven years ago) link
she was saying that all muslims shouldn't be punished for something perpetrated by a small group of muslims. everyone knows that 9/11 was a horrible tragedy, don't really think that she needed to belabor that in a speech about an unrelated topic
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Thursday, 18 April 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
bret stephens might have an interest in that very topic https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/330615-nyt-columnist-defends-his-disease-of-the-arab-mind-comments-in
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
i *think* this is a poorly-formed joek? idk
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-kP8nKW4AAFuER.jpg
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link
i prob voted Douthat. can't remember rn.
but now i'd have to say the answer is Brooks
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
douthat is the one that annoys me least and amuses me most
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link
Imagine getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to write this drivel
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/opinion/biden-campaign-covid.html
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link
the URL doesn't do it justice
What America Needs Next: A Biden National Unity Cabinet
how did douthat not win this
― brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
I def voted for him at the time lol youth but hahaha no no no he’s far and away the least worst of these clowns in 2020
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link
lol I guess I literally just said this a few months ago.Love to remember things better from 8 years ago than from 8 months ago. Is this being old? Am I old now
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/91A6BYo.jpg
'anthony fauci isn't omniscient, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯'
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link
the podcast "know your enemy" had douthat on as a guest and my opinion of them went way down.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link
hell yeah man
Tom Friedman is on CNN right now saying the best case scenario is Biden winning and Republicans holding the senate so both will be forced to compromise.LOL.— Nicholas Miller (@Nick_L_Miller) November 3, 2020
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5909515e6552fa0be682bce9/master/pass/dr-strangelove-still-580.jpg
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link
Encanto is the best Disney since Moana but also its fifth movie in a row without a meaningful love story; decadence continues:https://t.co/Qr7oe9VLRp— Ross Douthat (@DouthatNYT) January 11, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 11 January 2022 21:05 (two years ago) link
must be causation
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSE_c0xXoAEncBu?format=png&name=small
― mookieproof, Friday, 6 May 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link
Twitter has time today.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 6 May 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link
i wish ross would explain how it is that he is participating in the workforce given his lack of any skills or talents
― towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 6 May 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link
blame roe v. wade
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 6 May 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link
One reason I think "op-ed writer at major newspaper" should be something various people should get to do a few times a year, tops, rather than be a few people's full-time job is the staggering intellectual laziness it too often facilitates and encourages. pic.twitter.com/ApVBnYZj4J— David Watkins (@djw172) May 6, 2022
― towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 6 May 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link
the recent Roe news has really given Doubthat a chance to outshine the other two in the dipshit Olympics
― OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 6 May 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link
still time for someone with the "music will get better after Roe is overturned" take
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 6 May 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link
or one of those aborted fetuses could have been the next Cobain
I am curious what kind of ‘truce’ on abortion @DouthatNYT has in mind here. Because I literally can’t imagine one that would be workable in the current moment. pic.twitter.com/ruirrXDEry— Jordan Weissmann (@JHWeissmann) September 5, 2022
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link
They still remember that guy on Kavanaugh’s street?
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link
Piss on this turd:
Yes yes yes:https://t.co/UFWtGzepXG— Ross Douthat (@DouthatNYT) November 2, 2022
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link
Israel and Hungary, huh
― rob, Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link
weirdo
A proposed screening Q for the next GOP administration: Is Swift-Kelce --(a) a sweet thing to watch and maybe the last best hope for America, we need them to marry and procreate (b) a psy-op to get NFL fans to get booster shots and vote for Democratsno (b)s need apply— Ross Douthat (@DouthatNYT) January 29, 2024
― mookieproof, Monday, 29 January 2024 17:15 (two months ago) link
lol Stephen Miller would probably choose a)
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 29 January 2024 17:20 (two months ago) link
Truly wish Lyme would have just killed him.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 29 January 2024 17:23 (two months ago) link
we need them to marry and procreate
normal!
― lag∞n, Monday, 29 January 2024 17:45 (two months ago) link
c. *monday night football song starts playing*
― lag∞n, Monday, 29 January 2024 17:46 (two months ago) link
it is kinda funny that b is more true than a but its not "a psy-op" its just a contrived celebrity relationship like theyve been doing in hollywood for 100 years
― lag∞n, Monday, 29 January 2024 17:49 (two months ago) link
they're both gay?
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 29 January 2024 18:34 (two months ago) link
if youve never looked into the taylor swift conspiracysphere and are interested in such things then i can recommend it
― lag∞n, Monday, 29 January 2024 19:43 (two months ago) link
gaylor has been pretty much canon on tumblr for at least a decade
― Left, Monday, 29 January 2024 19:56 (two months ago) link
I'm pretty sure the smiley football guy op is damage control for the Matty Healy op
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 29 January 2024 19:58 (two months ago) link
taylors been getting in the news for her boyfriends for 15 year now but this one is next level, multiple appearances on the most watched tv show of the week, travis kelce is booking credit card commercials, everyones winning
― lag∞n, Monday, 29 January 2024 20:38 (two months ago) link
Celebrity creampies that can save America's bipartisan consensus.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 04:44 (one month ago) link
everyones winning
i'm getting a bit tired of winning so much
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 04:47 (one month ago) link
Wow I had no idea all that MAGA Taylor Swift stuff was a thing. Kinda wish I still didn’t know.
― tobo73, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 20:15 (one month ago) link
Eh, it's better than when they thought she was an Aryan goddess awhile back.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 20:20 (one month ago) link
On the recent grasping of Swift conspiracy by the dumbass misogynist Charlie Kirk types:
…To be acceptable in this strange crowd you gotta believe getting vaccinated is unmanly, you gotta believe Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are nefarious plants to elect Joe Biden, you gotta believe all sorts of foods and activities will make you too feminine, but that a man can ever be a woman. And so on and so forth. This set of beliefs, always paired with the need for dominant and potentially violent manhood, contributes to more and more men viewing unhealthy, dangerous masculinity and fascist beliefs as core parts of their identity. And this wave of young men is shifting right in their political beliefs. But while we can’t deny the danger of this shift, and the danger of men being taught to hate women, as evidenced by the link between domestic violence and mass shootings, there is a real possibility that this sharp edge of patriarchy can only go so far. These misogyny influencers have done and will do serious damage, but sharpen the patriarchy too much and it gets brittle and fragile. Sharpen it too much, as these men are doing, and you begin to lose people. You begin to demand too much and men start to drop off.
https://open.substack.com/pub/newmeans/p/its-expensive-to-be-a-man
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 20:31 (one month ago) link
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, January 29, 2024 1:58 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
i'm sure dating travis kelce is a real relief after that douchebag
the kelce family seems nice
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:35 (one month ago) link