david brooks vs. thomas friedman vs. ross douthat

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if someone can explain how exactly that happened that would be great

iatee, Friday, 20 April 2012 03:31 (eleven years ago) link

All three of these assholes get reprinted in the local state-wide paper; Friedman is usually the least wrong and/or objectionable but remember we're comparing him to these two schmucks

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 20 April 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link

thanks to friedman at least, we have this: http://rolocroz.com/junk/friedman.html

s.clover, Friday, 20 April 2012 04:03 (eleven years ago) link

and therefore:

http://rolocroz.com/junk/friedman.gif

mookieproof, Friday, 20 April 2012 04:11 (eleven years ago) link

god these fuckin shitbags

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

I dream of throat punching Brooks.

aluminum rivets must not be proud of their plastic bosses (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

what a bunch of cool bros

Lamp, Friday, 20 April 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

I actually know Krauthammer, and will not be more specific than that, but he's a pretty likable guy in person.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

he woulda made a great character actor in another life

iatee, Friday, 20 April 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

ha well there's this take:

http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2012/04/ive-never-been-more-certain-of-anything.html

I would not recommend torturing your brain by reading the full epistolary romance between William Saletan and Ross Douthat, but seriously, that dude is so gay.

Obviously Douthat isn't exactly writing in the most sophisticated tradition of apologetics, but you know, there is something about all this hemming and hawing over the proper, ahem, stance toward the gays that is deeply prurient, bordering on the pornographic. You know, like, let us now turn our unflinching, um, gaze upon these divinely incompatible sexual beings in order that we may, carefully and in great detail, determine the most charitable possible means to disapprove of them. If we look long enough, and hard enough, we may yet determine just how we are supposed to feel. We wish to turn away, and yet somehow we feel compelled to keep going. God, Ross, you are going to feel so guilty when you quiver to a deathlike little conclusion on the, uh, issue.

goole, Friday, 20 April 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

douthat also wrote a book with reihan salam arguing that republicans should maybe possibly hopefully come up with ways of not being completely balls to the wall rageful toward the bottom income quintile. i always meant to read that.

goole, Friday, 20 April 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

I actually know Krauthammer, and will not be more specific than that, but he's a pretty likable guy in person.

I can believe it – he projects more intelligence and sympathy than his prose.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

he looks so ott evil that you can sorta see him as a darth vader character who regains compassion at the very end of his life and somehow saves everyone

iatee, Friday, 20 April 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

He had a lazy piece of junk in the Washington Post last Friday on the Buffet rule, and today whines that we need to find funding for NASA to keep shuttles going to the new frontier, but we also have to stop Obama's spending on everything else. Likeable in person or not, his writing projects little intelligence, sympathy or friendliness

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 April 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

pat buchanan is also a likable guy IRL -- that's why he's lasted so long on the Gasbag Circuit.

a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

Being a likeable person obviously does not preclude intellectual dishonesty and deceitful rhetoric in order to 'win' a political argument.

Aimless, Friday, 20 April 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

goole, is this the book to which you refer?

read a couple reviews

obv this book did not penetrate the republican id

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 20 April 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Friedman's disconnect from reality reminding me increasingly of John Candy as Melonville Mayor Tommy Shanks

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 April 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

douthat's exchange w/saletan: easy to imagine ross rationalizing the catholic church's persecution of heretics like galileo or copernicus back in the day

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Saturday, 21 April 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link

"burning people at the stake is messy, certainly, but serves as a necessary correction to a widespread cultural drift away from xtian orthodoxy"

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Saturday, 21 April 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link

One successful foray ended on the guest bed of a high school friend's parents, with a girl who resembled a chunkier Reese Witherspoon drunkenly masticating my neck and cheeks. It had taken some time to reach this point--"Do most Harvard guys take so long to get what they want?" she had asked, pushing her tongue into my mouth. I wasn't sure what to say, but then I wasn't sure this was what I wanted. My throat was dry from too much vodka, and her breasts, spilling out of pink pajamas, threatened my ability to. I was supposed to be excited, but I was bored and somewhat disgusted with myself, with her, with the whole business... and then whatever residual enthusiasm I felt for the venture dissipated, with shocking speed, as she nibbled at my ear and whispered--"You know, I'm on the pill..."

Mordy, Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link

"wait did I just say all that out loud?"

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Saturday, 21 April 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

wowwww i had never read that

goole, Saturday, 21 April 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

hahahahahaha

pleural eff u son (k3vin k.), Saturday, 21 April 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus Christ

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

"chunkier Reese Witherspoon drunkenly masticating"
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s.clover, Saturday, 21 April 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

Gay relationships may be unitive in some sense, but they are not unitive in the male-female, difference-reunited sense that the Biblical narrative strongly suggests that God intended sex to be. Gay people can bear and rear children, but they cannot bear and rear them in accordance with what the Biblical narrative suggests is God’s original intention for the reproduction of the human race. Homosexuality may be innate, but recall that one of the core doctrines of Christianity is that sin itself is innate—that our innermost being is in some sense broken and fallen and turned from God’s desires for us. What a traditional Christian morality asks of gay people seems impossibly difficult, but the Jesus of the New Testament asks the near impossible of people quite frequently.

guess who

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

so "sux2bu" is harvard for "god hates fags", got it

goole, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

they are not unitive in the male-female, difference-reunited sense that the Biblical narrative strongly suggests that God intended sex to be

It is wholly OT-based stuff like this that makes baby Jesus cry.

Aimless, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

Wow this Douthat guy, I was not really even that aware of his views until recently. I mean at least Brooks and Friedman are faux-intellectuals of this century.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

haha 'the biblical narrative strongly suggests'

what kind of punk-ass bullshitty appeal to scripture is THAT.

j., Tuesday, 24 April 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

What a traditional Christian morality asks of gay people seems impossibly difficult, but the Jesus of the New Testament asks the near impossible of people quite frequently.

will you be getting around to any of it at any point or are you concentrating for now on not being gay

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

yep. this poll was easy.

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

I was supposed to be excited, but I was bored and somewhat disgusted with myself, with her, with the whole business

maybe you should try having sex with another dude

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

I could see the whole xtian thing as this gag column he tried out for the harvard newspaper and then when it worked he just stuck w/ it and years later he is trapped doing this and feeling really guilty cause irl he's just a boring atheist w/ nothing to say

iatee, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

(Aimless innocently opens ILE New Answers, sees the names David Brooks, Thomas Friedman and Ross Douthat, starts sobbing like a frightened child)

Make it stop!

Aimless, Saturday, 28 April 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

backwards!

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link

strong campaign by douthat down the stretch but he couldn't close the gap.

balls, Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.tnr.com/book/review/bad-religion-ross-douthat

balls, Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:38 (eleven years ago) link

we could've been less sexist and thrown Maureen Dowd in the mix.

a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link

yeah she's awful too

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:44 (eleven years ago) link

hah that book review authoritatively calls bullshit on douthat

"ROSS DOUTHAT’S ANALYSIS of religion in America is more sophisticated than the analysis of, say, Rick Santorum—but not by much. "

^^excellent lead sentence

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

"My problem with Douthat’s book is not that his opinions differ from my own. My problem is that he does not seem to have any idea what he is talking about."

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

he also got sonned in the nyt

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

Charles Pierce:

I refuse to accept the term "curmudgeonly annoyance" from a teenage sex-panic victim with D'Artagnan starter-kit facial hair."

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/ross-douthat-post-election-14752276

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not a big charles pierce fan

goole, Monday, 19 November 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link


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