who knows, maybe
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
does anyone *really* ever know?
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
they suck but they're probably decent
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
I am an Explorer, except for the part where almost none of the Explorer description fits me. Except maybe the 'acting out on alienation destructively' part.
― grickodda thunder, zoos (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
probably
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
They are "mellow," but also very cynical
the quotes confuse me
is he saying we're high? uptight?
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i'm an explorer part two, as well, i feel this justifies my m4riju4na intake. the thing with boomers is they have basically gotten away with making the stage play of their adolescence official history. it's more sad than anything. the whole narrative is what capitalism really needed to get where it is now imo. xp
― yo just a couple (Matt P), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
What about the part where the "greatest generation" set up all this infrastructure that enabled the boomers to do all these horrible things?
― mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
Horrible things? Refrigerators and washing machines and transistor radios and hi-fi's and reel to reel and...?
― L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
h8 refrigerators
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
Regardless, it was the golden age of household appliances and consumer goods for the working class, finally
― L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
ppl of my generation cannot relate to all these 'quirky jokes' about hating refrigerators and shit
― Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
I've lived w/o a refrigerator before - in Paris with a lusty and lovely blonde. It was eminently do-able for me back then.
― L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
life - refrigerator + lusty lovely blonde + paris = doable
yep all checks out
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
also highways and SPACE TRAVEL
kinda love the Greatest Generation even though the name kind of makes me want to not like them at all
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link
If you have a market within easy walking distance, refrigeration is less of a necessity I expect.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
...depending on which generation you are from.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
bring back the icebox
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
Bring back the iceman!
― grickodda thunder, zoos (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
The Iceman Cometh Backeth
― grickodda thunder, zoos (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
Am I a dick for not entirely buying the greatest generation thing? They didn't want war but they got it. They weren't exactly eager to join up and they got drafted. The economy finally recovered after 12 years and then they all moved to the 'burbs and started voting like a bunch of Republican dicks.
― L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
also most of them are dead
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
If you have a market within easy walking distance
We did. We also subsisted on l'amour et l'eau fraîche. Actually, we had pasteurised milk and butter fro breakfast that we kept on a ledge outside that was both pigeon-proof and got no sun. Other than that, we either ate out or only bought what we needed for lunch/dinner.
― L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
Three of my greatest gen grandparents are alive!
ur killing me w/this french butter on the windowsill imagery, feel like throwing my american refrigerator in the ocean
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
As a boomer I got a good look at the prior generation. They were my parents, my teachers, all the adults in my life as I grew up. They were mostly ok, except the rampant racism I mentioned above.
They were pretty thoroughly propagandized against the commies, too, but the commies mostly obliged them by being huge dicks and occupying eastern europe. Problem was, they had trouble distinguishing between commies and, say, civil rights advocates, or garden variety socialists.
Hard working people right across the board. Even the rottenest of capitalist pigs worked their tails off to amass their huge wealth and defend it.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
In the morning we'd heat the milk, spread the butter on the baguette toast and then pour the milk in the coffee. It was '88, I think, and I was a little disconcerted by her love of Rick Astley; thorn on the rose, serpent in the garden, etc...
x-post
― L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
MW, have u read this? http://thoughtcatalog.com/2012/witnessing-a-change-in-williamsburg-brooklyn
― Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
I have now but I'm not sure how it's germane to the thread or my little derail
― L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
snows of yesteryear sentiments?
― Aimless, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
The greatest generation came up with a lot of the modern conveniences we now take for granted due to the insanely rapid industrialization of the US in the postwar era. Not really their fault, but they also created a system of production that they later moved to other countries as soon as it proved profitable, privileged automobile traffic in all instances over rail, let the fear of communism drive voting and public policy for decades, and unironically accepted the "Leave it to Beaver" model of entertainment until the cynicism of "All in the Family". And as mentioned above, the racism and attitudes were such that my grandfather found Archie Bunker funny because he thought he was on-point!
― mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
i would like to hear someone from the silent generation critique the greatest generation and compare it to gen x talking about boomers
― Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
something something refrigerators something something war something something racism something something DADDY WAS MEAN
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
xp - pretty sure there were quite a few scenes of this in the first two seasons of Mad Men, Mordy
― sarahell, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
There's also that part where the greatest generation fought a "good war," then transitioned into the cold war, and sent their kids off to Vietnam.
― mh, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
no gen-x'ers really yet in mad men
i think the thread kinda touched on this earlier but how do these generation tropes travel outside the united states? i assume like uk probably shares a lot of similar ideas and maybe other english speaking countries too? do they exist at all in non-English speaking countries? are they replaced with totally different paradigms?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
Baby boomers aren't just an idea, though - food rationing didn't end in England until 1954, for example.
I mean, we know what is signified by these terms, it's just that what's signified is americans.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
European and South-Pacific trendsMany European countries, Australia and New Zealand also experienced a baby boom. In some cases the total fertility rate almost doubled. The American birth model, conceived by demographer Frank Notestein, was punctuated by an end to the upsurge in births and a return to pre-war levels. In many European countries the first year of the Post World War II baby boom was the year 1946, but in Germany the first year was the year 1955 in Finland the largest birth rate was in August and September 1945. Prior to World War II, fertility rates in Europe and America were on a general decline due to improved nutrition and medicine, and a surge in births were previously not experienced at such a large scale. Based on this model, baby boom years for other countries regarded for having a baby boom are as follows:[by whom?][citation needed]Hungary's population pyramid in 1960 with boom generationsFrance 1946–1974United Kingdom 1946–1974Finland 1945–1950Germany 1955-1967Sweden 1946–1952Denmark 1946–1950Netherlands 1946–1972Ireland 1946–1982Hungary 1946-1957Iceland 1946–1969New Zealand 1946–1961Australia 1946–1961In some of these examples, an "echo boom" followed some time after as the offspring of the initial boom gave rise to a second increase, with a baby "bust" in between. The birth years of the baby boom as noted being both short and long lived, creates what many believe to be a myth to the notion of defining baby boomers as one "generation", as a unified concept is clearly not possible. Indeed, multiple generations may be present in a single country such as Ireland where the boom lasted 36 years. This overlapping effect of generations is not illuminated when considering crude fertility rates. The only common ground for the collective boom is the same approximate starting year. This example can be applied to each state in the United States on an individual basis. The states with a census in place in 1946 saw fertility rates drop to pre-war levels throughout the 1960s, with the average being in 1964.
Many European countries, Australia and New Zealand also experienced a baby boom. In some cases the total fertility rate almost doubled. The American birth model, conceived by demographer Frank Notestein, was punctuated by an end to the upsurge in births and a return to pre-war levels. In many European countries the first year of the Post World War II baby boom was the year 1946, but in Germany the first year was the year 1955 in Finland the largest birth rate was in August and September 1945. Prior to World War II, fertility rates in Europe and America were on a general decline due to improved nutrition and medicine, and a surge in births were previously not experienced at such a large scale. Based on this model, baby boom years for other countries regarded for having a baby boom are as follows:[by whom?][citation needed]
Hungary's population pyramid in 1960 with boom generationsFrance 1946–1974United Kingdom 1946–1974Finland 1945–1950Germany 1955-1967Sweden 1946–1952Denmark 1946–1950Netherlands 1946–1972Ireland 1946–1982Hungary 1946-1957Iceland 1946–1969New Zealand 1946–1961Australia 1946–1961In some of these examples, an "echo boom" followed some time after as the offspring of the initial boom gave rise to a second increase, with a baby "bust" in between. The birth years of the baby boom as noted being both short and long lived, creates what many believe to be a myth to the notion of defining baby boomers as one "generation", as a unified concept is clearly not possible. Indeed, multiple generations may be present in a single country such as Ireland where the boom lasted 36 years. This overlapping effect of generations is not illuminated when considering crude fertility rates. The only common ground for the collective boom is the same approximate starting year. This example can be applied to each state in the United States on an individual basis. The states with a census in place in 1946 saw fertility rates drop to pre-war levels throughout the 1960s, with the average being in 1964.
― iatee, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
Mindless facetiousness is definitely a generational marker.
Also, if you uptalk you're Gen X or later.
If you habitually use the vocal fry register you're Gen Y or later.
― Josefa, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 02:27 (twelve years ago) link
i think just different models of mindless facetiousness
― Mordy, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 02:28 (twelve years ago) link
the greatest generation/silent generation(?)/boomers are almost done screwing me now. it's these young hooses who want to take away all my hard-earned wages to fund oil can boyd.
joke's on them because i have no money to take away
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 02:33 (twelve years ago) link
actually that's not true re: the boomers
fortunately our american two-party system will show them what's what
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
man my refrigerator joke is universal
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
stare into this joke and see the cosmos youngins
Which generation does the guy in LMFAO with the funny red hair belong to? His is the best generation.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
I really hate the Mexican War generation cept for Lincoln
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 03:43 (twelve years ago) link
whichever the OG handlebar mustache and pocketwatch generation is = my favorite generation
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
millenials seems the least skeptical of authority of anyone since them who fought in the great wars
I definitely think this is one side of the coin. There is a sizable number of them, for instance, involved in the Occupy movement on the other side of the coin, but these are kids who came of age in Bush II's America and for whom The Patriot Act has been a thing roughly forever (not to mention that No Child Left Behind probably hobbled a lot of critical faculties right out of the gate). A lot of that shit has, unfortunately, become pretty normalized. Like, I'll rant about stuff around my sister like Facebook's disregard for people's privacy, and she just could not give one solitary fuck. Actually, I could probably suss out a lot of the generational divide based on the stuff my sister and I wildly disagree about.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, May 2, 2012 4:45 AM (7 minutes ago)
this is like the generation that killed loads of people in the third world in the process of stealing their resources whilst failing to realize how much better wristwatches are than pocketwatches
― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 03:54 (twelve years ago) link
Like, I'll rant about stuff around my sister like Facebook's disregard for people's privacy, and she just could not give one solitary fuck.
Lack of interest in privacy among the younger generations is a trend that should be lauded. A more open society is a better society.
― Banaka™ (banaka), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 04:05 (twelve years ago) link