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I'm not sure what they're trying to mine here, because despite a little pretentious, those comments on Eliot really don't fit with the "lol teleprompter" image they like to portray. That's a pretty fucking smart 23 year old there.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 4 May 2012 02:21 (eleven years ago) link

such a fine line between 'needs a teleprompter' and 'pretentious anti-colonial commie literary fag'

mookieproof, Friday, 4 May 2012 02:35 (eleven years ago) link

was struck by certain resemblances between the musician and another West Indian who made good: Both were illegitimate sons of abandoning fathers; both grew up on the wrong side of the tracks; both conquered their chosen worlds; both were driven, charming and willful; both replicated the sexual irresponsibility of their fathers; both died at least in part thanks to their own characters.

jesus christ is he kidding...?

"Watching the John Lennon film 'LennoNYC,' I was struck by certain resemblances between the musician and another New York transplant who made good: Both were privileged; both grew up on the right side of the tracks; both conquered their chosen worlds; both were driven, charming and willful; both replicated the sexual irresponsibility of their fathers; both died at least in part thanks to their own characters. I'm referring, of course, to our own William F. Buckley, Jr."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link

jesus christ is he kidding...?

nope. he was serious. most columnists resort to overreaching the bounds of sense or decency when it comes to filling their alloted space. that space is a tyranny that must be filled, even at the cost of looking like an utter prat. they get used to it very soon, or else stop writing columns.

Aimless, Friday, 4 May 2012 02:55 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not sure what they're trying to mine here...

The juxtaposition of that text with those pictures struck me as, "How dare this ignorant thug pretend to understand T.S. Eliot." Like you say, the letters are a little pretentious--everyone's at their most pretentious when they're at university. I'm sure some people would wonder why I'm seizing on this particular example of something that's been going on for four years. For whatever reason, this one seemed especially insidious to me.

clemenza, Friday, 4 May 2012 03:08 (eleven years ago) link

can someone link to it...?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:09 (eleven years ago) link

(I know I know -- hit counts)

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:10 (eleven years ago) link

The slideshow's on the front page--there's no separate link.

clemenza, Friday, 4 May 2012 03:12 (eleven years ago) link

i'd assumed this was well-traveled territory, but here is our own max's response to the matter: http://gawker.com/5907066/exclusive-my-occidental-college-love-letters

mookieproof, Friday, 4 May 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link

loved max's piece.

both died at least in part thanks to their own characters.

no, bob marley died because he played football against danny baker, who tackled hard the toe that would later turn cancerous and kill him.

Bad Company's Drummer's Daughter (stevie), Friday, 4 May 2012 07:29 (eleven years ago) link

hahahahahahahaha max

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 4 May 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link

That is fantastic, max.

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

What's surprising in Goldberg's case is that he has been called out for the same résumé padding before, when his previous book was published.

Maybe it's not surprising

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

Bill Dedman is enjoying himself:

For $2,000 to $7,500 per person, one can accompany the "Pulitzer-nominated columnist" and others from the National Review on a cruise to the Bahamas and Grand Cayman. His many liberal targets have included former Vice President Al Gore, whom he derided as a "serial exaggerator."

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

countdown to "at least he never claimed to be an indian" in 10, 9...

goole, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

I had not heard of the Warren heritage claptrap. http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/5/8/warren-maginn-faust-letter/

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/05/elizabeth-warrens-native-american-question.html

I don't care, but this is a very silly thing for a smart and competent public figure like Warren to say:

I listed myself in the directory in the hopes that it might mean that I would be invited to a luncheon, a group something that might happen with people who are like I am. Nothing like that ever happened, that was clearly not the use for it and so I stopped checking it off.

Which just muddied the waters.

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

it makers perfect sense to me. lots of people with a certain background but very weak affiliation to it are really sort of contingent and capricious in how and when they self-identify. this is especially so when they don't imagine they will become polarizing public figures subject to intensive scrutiny.

s.clover, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

It's also not crazy that you might get invitations to luncheons or such. At lots of institutions, various minority professional associations find out who's who from company directories or the like.

s.clover, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

That makes sense to me. I don't doubt Warren's sincerity. I still think her statement is one that will not be immediately clear to most who read it.

When I googled the controversy, I came across a massive swamp of rightwing concern-trolling turning this, on the flimsiest of excuses, into a complaint about affirmative action (!), and peppering their faux-outrage with racist bullshit like "faux-cahontas" and "smoke signals"

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

didn't know Robin Roberts was suspected of being queer

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

i didn't know shep was!

goole, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

seriously?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

for real!

goole, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

he wears lavender lipstick

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

Dollar Bill 05/10/12 10:06
Shep Smith, .....how shall I put this, ......likes Broadway show tunes.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

To get to the corner I had to go through

http://global.nationalreview.com/images/layover_tyrannny_bigclick.png

caro's johnson (Eazy), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

Big Jonah Golderg ad, thinks it's funny.

caro's johnson (Eazy), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

from the orig article:

I don't mind the word "white" in either of those expressions. Conservatism, Inc. or otherwise, is a white people's movement, a scattering of outliers notwithstanding.

Always has been, always will be. I have attended at least a hundred conservative gatherings, conferences, cruises, and jamborees: let me tell you, there ain't too many raisins in that bun. I was in and out of the National Review offices for twelve years, and the only black person I saw there, other than when Herman Cain came calling, was Alex, the guy who runs the mail room. (Hey, Alex!)

goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

This isn't because conservatism is hostile to blacks and mestizos. Very much the contrary, especially in the case of Conservatism Inc. They fawn over the occasional nonwhite with a puppyish deference that fairly fogs the air with embarrassment. (Q: What do you call the one black guy at a gathering of 1,000 Republicans? A: "Mr. Chairman.")

goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

lmao derb u rascal

max, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

It's just that conservative ideals like self-sufficiency and minimal dependence on government have no appeal to underperforming minorities—groups who, in the statistical generality, are short of the attributes that make for group success in a modern commercial nation.

Of what use would it be to them to embrace such ideals? They would end up even more decisively pooled at the bottom of society than they are currently.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

Hey, Alex!

max, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

How hard was he struggling to restrain himself from adding "What up, dawg!" to that

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

derb surely twisting the knife in his old employers here

goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

I think his chemo-brain is permanent now.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

ahh fuck shoulda checked the thread, sorry.

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

i'm gonna pretend that's derb singing Van Halen's Unchained

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

Kathryn Jean Lopez ‏@kathrynlopez

wow, what a big building the national rifle association ha

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

has

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

cause she got shot before she could finish tweeting the word 'has'?

Mordy, Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

remainder of tweet to be pried from her cold dead hands

Djibril Citté (onimo), Monday, 21 May 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

aaaaand Chait's excellent response.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that is infuriating

Jonathan Bernstein's response is also good, and differs from Chait's

http://plainblogaboutpolitics.blogspot.com/2012/05/in-which-conservatives-get-their-own.html

goole, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

more antirevisionism

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_05/civil_rights_revisionism037520.php

is it me or has the corner been totally silent about this?

goole, Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

btw the comments on the Bernstein article are closer to footnotes: good stuff.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link


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