The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

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if you can make a good case for "alien isn't scifi it's horror"

I think that horror and sci-fi are (sometimes) so interconnected, the line gets blurry. I never really saw Alien as a Sci Fi movie. Sure it was set in the future, but that was (a little bit) apropos of nothing. It was about the horror. Just like The Thing.

I absolutely love Blade Runner. I think mostly because it can be enjoyed/analyzed on so many levels. Every time I watch it, I seem to gain something more from it. spoiler I strictly remember not realizing that he was a Replicant. Now it just seems to obvious as it ties in with the whole theme of the movie and how else could you explain the Unicorn and Origami scenes? It completely shakes up your whole experience of the film: you identify yourself with the character only to realize he's also a Replicant (non-human).
It's from the opening shot that I am completely in awe of the film. The eye which reflects the city makes you aware you are watching. And the rest of the film is just so sublime. I think part of what makes it not seem outdated is also the random historical elements, references to for example Film Noir. There's very modern (at the time) elements but also old things. I also like the Woman aspect in the film (striptease, the snake, the gaze,..)
I also like the Oedipal element in the film: the confrontation of Tyrell with his *son*.

I could go on and on about this film. I'm not a big fan of Sci-Fi on the whole - I mean, sure, I like Sci Fi but it'snot something I actively seek out. Blade Runner just is just *it*. I think what intensefied is when I went to Tokyo for the first time; it was just completely like a scene out of Blade Runner. My mom and I looked at eachother and said:"Blade Runner!"

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 26 June 2006 10:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Blade Runner vs. Lost in Translation vs. Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift

latebloomer aka rap's yoko ono (latebloomer), Monday, 26 June 2006 11:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Can't wait for that one.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 26 June 2006 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Paul Walker as the ultimate yummy replicant. A sexplicant. I'd ravish him until his batteries run out.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 26 June 2006 11:36 (seventeen years ago) link

more movies like this pls

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link

This flick is also a great demonstration of how big a role empathy played in most of PKD's work.

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:03 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

See, no.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

so this is where they stab the blade runner franchise in the back, twist the knife a few times, remove the knife, and fuck the wound until it's dead, and then fuck it some more

fuck you capitalism

Neu! romancer (dayo), Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, at least there is this small glimmer of hope:

Purists can rest assured, though, as Alcon says its deal, with producer-director Bud Yorkin -- who currently holds the rights to "Blade Runner" -- would exclude permission to remake the original.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

"We have long-term goals for the franchise, and are exploring multiplatform concepts, not just limiting ourselves to one medium.”

I'm struggling to think what this means. Computer games obviously but what other "concepts"? A musical?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

In any case c'mon this is awesome news. If it's bad you don't have to see it and it might even be good!

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Blade Runner: Turn Off The Skin Job

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ Composed and arranged for Penfield Mood Organ

Du Musst Calamari Werden (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

tbf the 1997 game was effing brilliant

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

triple CD reissue of the soundtrack is amazing innit?

piscesx, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

nothing good will come of this

ridiculous, uncalled for slap (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I will hunt down and "retire" all associated if a sequel gets made

☠-post (latebloomer), Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

well Jeter was a buddy/protege of PKD's at least (and at least a couple of his books are flat-out great)

I've never read the sequels themselves

ridiculous, uncalled for slap (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

is shia labeouf in this

el tuomboto (cozen), Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

jesus christ io9 get a fucking copy editor

ridiculous, uncalled for slap (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

I wish there was a "My Blood is Boiling" gif.

online pinata store (Nicole), Thursday, 18 August 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

Can't wait for his reimagining of Legend with Shia the Beef, Kristen Stewart and John Barrowman.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

crossing my fingers for Whiter Squall

Cosmo Vitelli, Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

And Blacker Rain.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

Can't wait for his reimagining of Legend with Shia the Beef, Kristen Stewart and John Barrowman.

This horrible vision is going to haunt my dreams now.

online pinata store (Nicole), Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

youth rioting in london, thousands dying in somalia, bears committing suicide in china, ridley scott remaking blade runner.
the world has been slipping down the crazy slide for a while now, but i think it's finally hit the waters of the deep end.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

Bladerunnerer

that mellow wash of meh (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 August 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

vahid OTM way upthread about all the SF movies better than this one.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 18 August 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

i dont even care for blade runner that much, but no, vahid is not OTM about tron being better than blade runner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 18 August 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

ok, not all of them i guess

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 18 August 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

you know, the only feeling i can muster is utter indifference.

thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Thursday, 18 August 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

it's ridley scott doing a sequel to his own movie...could be interesting, could be terrible. who knows?

thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Thursday, 18 August 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

a year ago if you had told me that a planet of the apes rebootquel was gonna be pretty good i wouldn't have believed it

thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Thursday, 18 August 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

vahid OTM way upthread about all the SF movies better than this one.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

someone needs to be "retired"

thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Thursday, 18 August 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

I will hunt down and "retire" all associated if a sequel gets made

― ☠-post (latebloomer), Thursday, March 3, 2011 7:10 PM (5 months ago) Bookmark

i've been replaced by a replicant

thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Thursday, 18 August 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

it's ridley scott doing a sequel to his own movie...could be interesting, could be terrible. who knows?

― thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Thursday, August 18, 2011 6:54 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, agreed. i'll wait and see, whatever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 18 August 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link

do you know what? i recently went through the process of rewatching blade runner with my gf - it was her first time! - and i found i really liked it again. i think maybe having entered a different phase in my life i can feel more empathy for harrison ford's evident self-loathing, and so the cruelty of the movie makes more sense to me. i also spent a lot of time over the last few years digging deep into heavy metal (the comic magazine) and i really, really appreciate the set design during the different "blade runner blues" montages.

man, that guy is obnoxious upthread

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 19 August 2011 03:39 (twelve years ago) link

there is sort of a relaxing, warm fuzzy sweater, big cup of hot chocolate quality to turning the lights way down and watching blade runner. and that is pretty hard to find in good science fiction movies.

i think, though, that the following sci fi movies might be better than blade runner

-- sun ra's "space is the place"
-- a clockwork orange
-- fantastic planet
-- forbidden planet
-- holy mountain
-- thx 1138
-- videodrome
-- war of the worlds w/ tom cruise
-- zardoz

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 19 August 2011 03:54 (twelve years ago) link

One of the best things about Blade Runner, and the first 2 Alien movies, which almost no other sci-fi movies manage, is a sense of the reality and solidity of the rest of the world beyond the bit you're looking at. They feel like real (fucked up) societies, not just sets for adventures to happen in.

not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Friday, 19 August 2011 03:57 (twelve years ago) link

that is a much more agreeable list

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Friday, 19 August 2011 03:57 (twelve years ago) link

One of the best things about Blade Runner, and the first 2 Alien movies, which almost no other sci-fi movies manage, is a sense of the reality and solidity of the rest of the world beyond the bit you're looking at. They feel like real (fucked up) societies, not just sets for adventures to happen in.

― not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Friday, August 19, 2011 4:57 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

so OTM. I feel like SF stuff often uses that clunky 'quick explain the backstory and get it over with' thing. Alien and Blade runner do it on the fly and it works.

owenf, Friday, 19 August 2011 12:03 (twelve years ago) link

-- war of the worlds w/ tom cruise

u mad

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 19 August 2011 12:13 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i was gonna say

Number None, Friday, 19 August 2011 12:14 (twelve years ago) link

I re-watched BR recently, after re-reading Do Androids Dream etc.. First time round (a long time ago) I saw the film (with voiceover) and then read the book.

One thing I was struck by in the film this time was how the androids have funny reflecting eyes when you shine lights on them - so why do the cops bother with all that Voigt-Kampf test shite?

I was also struck, again, by how the film leaves out what is perhaps the most headfucky scene in the book - the one where Deckard finds himself in the other police HQ that he has never heard of and is told that the one he is based in shut down years ago.

Anyway, this time round I found the film mildly disappointing. It looks great and has a nicely tight narrative, but it seems to lack the depth of the book. Taken independently of its source material, though, it is an impressive piece of work.

The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 19 August 2011 12:18 (twelve years ago) link

Ridley is *73*! jesus h..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/aug/19/new-blade-runner-ridley-scott

piscesx, Sunday, 21 August 2011 02:34 (twelve years ago) link

he still looks spritely

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 21 August 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link


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