Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

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http://coreyrobin.com/

interesting lefty blog

curmudgeon, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

I read his book three weeks ago – not bad.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

right, He's a poli-sci professor and author

curmudgeon, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

lovely news on Obama and Franken coming out for mangled child laborers on the farm there.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 May 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

They gave in to the Palin and others disinformation campaign that the regulation would bar family farmers from having their own kids help out. Ugh

curmudgeon, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

So blaming Republicans (instead of both parties), even in nicely phrased language, won't get you on the Sunday talk shows:

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/disappearing-man-followup

re Norm Ornstein

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

here he goes again:

In addition to teeing up another debt limit fight for the lame duck session of Congress later this year, by demanding dollar-for-dollar budget cuts in exchange for new borrowing authority, House Speaker John Boehner also insists that regardless of the election outcome, Republicans will reject higher taxes on wealthy Americans in that fight.

And to build leverage for the GOP position, he announced Tuesday that House Republicans will pass legislation before the election to extend the Bush tax cuts indefinitely.

“What also doesn’t count as ‘cuts and reforms’ are tax increases,” Boehner will say before the annual Pete Peterson Fiscal Summit in Washington, DC, according to prepared remarks. “Any sudden tax hike would hurt our economy, so this fall - before the election - the House of Representatives will vote to stop the largest tax increase in American history.”

from tpm

He has a good chance of getting what he wants

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link

of what use is a summer without a debt ceiling fight?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

Can't the Dems just give in to, say, three or four debt ceiling battles in a row in advance, to save us some time? This brinksmanship seems like a formality, right down to the "oh, this will bite the Republicans in the butt" Pollyannas.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry, we need to give the inside-the-beltway columnists something to talk about. Combining 3 or 4 cave-ins into one, would prevent that

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link

Could point, and that would be bad for the extensive pundit economy and bring down the US with it.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

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Any sudden tax hike would hurt our economy, so this fall - before the election - the House of Representatives will vote to stop the largest tax increase in American history.”

If they really believed this they would let it happen to give a boost to Mitt.

nickn, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

*ACTUAL SIGNIFICANT NEWS*

Fed judge enjoins enforcement of NDAA's indefinite detention provisions

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/16/federal_court_enjoins_ndaa/singleton/

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 May 2012 04:26 (eleven years ago) link

nice

curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link

that's pretty righteous

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

But meanwhile a Congressional hawkish Dem says

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/carl-levin-wants-preserve-indefinite-detention-option-us-citizens

curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

major-league asshole

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

Fed judge enjoins enforcement of NDAA's indefinite detention provisions

Roberts court will totally strike this down, unfortunately

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

Left unexplained is why mandatory military detention is needed at all. Umar Abdulmutallab, who inspired the mandatory military custody provision after he set himself on fire trying to blow up a plane, would not have been granted bail in a federal court. If the evidence is that strong that someone is a terrorist, there's no need to put them in military custody. Levin fails to offer even a single argument for why military custody would be preferable to civilian custody. Instead, his argument is a moral one: We're at war with these people, so we'll treat them like warriors.

OTM, the lack of logic here is so enraging. courts handle dangerous, murderous people ALL THE FUCKING TIME, it's what they're designed to do.

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

it's official, white people in the US no longer the majority

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

worth celebrating

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

we had a good run

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

self-hate is awesome, guys!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

nonwhites, now it's up to you to continue fucking things up

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

just copy our mindset and make it your own

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not sure if i'm white or not. i'll throw a party but not attend.

remy bean, Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

before clinton does anything else he needs to unbutton his goddamn coat when he sits down

good men like my father, or president truman (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

gabbneb is dead, long live gabbnebism.

but at least he wants to let gays get married ... thereby securing a fat contribution check from David Geffen.

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/republicans-ndaa-detention-terrorist

Paging Greenwald

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 May 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/20/world/world-leaders-at-us-meeting-urge-growth-not-austerity.html

In a tense meeting here at this storied presidential retreat, it seemed at times as if it was Ms. Merkel — who herself faces stiff opposition at home to more bailouts of its neighbors by German taxpayers — against the world. Things did not seem to get off to a good start either on Friday night, as Mr. Obama greeted his guests for dinner in a rustic wood cabin.

“How’ve you been?” Mr. Obama asked Ms. Merkel.

She shrugged and pursed her lips.

“Well, you have a few things on your mind,” Mr. Obama said consolingly.

"We all do", Ms. Merkel replied.

When Mr. Obama inquired about the wellbeing of her husband, Joachim Sauer, Ms. Merkel would only shake her head in silence.

Mr. Obama then made a conversation mistake by accidentally asking "And how have you been?" again in desperation.

But Ms. Merkel did not respond, choosing instead to look at a spot about 20 feet above and to the left of Mr. Obama's head.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

I've done that so many times, man

dayo, Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

mumblecore diplomacy

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

while hiding out in Maryland away from scary protesters

curmudgeon, Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

camp david:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2n6oog.jpg

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

probably needs a shoulder rub

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

I repeat myself so many times in making small talk. it's so embarassing

dayo, Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

misspelling embarrassing is also embarrassing

dayo, Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

Hey, that bit about Obama embarrassing himself has been removed from the latest version.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

MoveOn.gov

Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

xpost well i may have made some editorial changes to add a little pizazz to the story

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

i would be a great journalist.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

I'm staring at a spot twenty feet and to the left of my middle finger. from your head.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

loooool

Sorry. Guess I should have thrown a more obvious indicator in there! "conversation mistake" is straight up Tim and Eric, though.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Saturday, 19 May 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

Newark Mayor Booker, another liberal hero in the making, loathes attacks on Bain Capital.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/cory-booker-im-very-uncomfortable-with-attacks-on-private-equity.php

Throw another on the shitpile.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 May 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, disgusting.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 21 May 2012 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

"Stop attacking private equity." poor innocent private equity.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 21 May 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link

what the fuck, Cory Booker

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 May 2012 00:24 (eleven years ago) link

like even Obama knows better than that

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 May 2012 00:24 (eleven years ago) link

"i would like more rich people to move to newark" ...?

goole, Monday, 21 May 2012 01:37 (eleven years ago) link


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