I think it's fine to anticipate Wes Anderson's Moonrise Kingdom

all style no substance?

― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Saturday, May 19, 2012 9:13 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but what is "substance"? i'm sure we've had this debate a million times, i just never know what people mean when they say that.

Paintings of horses.

everything post tenenbaums seems a little autistic

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/209224/WES-ANDERSON.jpg

an emotional and/or intellectual engagement beyond "that's pretty" or "that was fun". I think the argument is that Anderson makes very stylistically affected and aesthetically attractive movies that don't really say much about anything or any of its characters beyond the surface story. xposts

Ok one thing's for sure, his films >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his prose.

i guess this is his "new wave" movie?

I think at this point, I've just come to accept that I just like every movie Anderson has made, even if some of them are kind of hard to defend on many levels. He just has a visual style which really appeals to me. Really good cinematography and set design is enough to make me like a movie.

I think, increasingly, that "Fantastic Mr. Fox" is his best and most emotionally rewarding since "Tenebaums."

(Funniest, too)

Wes Anderson haters seem to have a lot in common with Jerry Lewis haters (or people who would be if they ever watched Jerry Lewis films). They just want him to be more like the others.

WA should remake The Day the Clown Cried.

All I meant above is that I seem to remember the sets and the visual sequences more than I do the plots of his movies.

Morbz, I don't think that comparison holds at all. Jerry constantly challenged himself and his audience; Anderson's been in his comfort zone (or, more unkindly, repeating his cliches) starting with Life Aquatic.

ALMOST mentioned autopilot references to The Day the Clown Cried. Just stop it.

someone's gotta do it

Wes Anderson haters seem to have a lot in common with Jerry Lewis haters (or people who would be if they ever watched Jerry Lewis films). They just want him to be more like the others.
As a Wes Andeson and Jerry Lewis fan, I agree.

IV likes it

http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/notebook-reviews-wes-andersons-moonrise-kingdom

MINOR SPOILER FROM ABOVE LINKED REVIEW

Moonrise Kingdom is set mostly to the music of Benjamin Britten... the kids meet during performance of the composer's "opera for amateurs" Noye's Fludde

^^ i have instantly gone from "basically not gonna see this movie" to "i will see this movie and it will be great"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8OOvf1NPY

and GK gives it 5 stars: http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie-critic-reviews/moonrise-kingdom/

WA should remake The Day the Clown Cried.

― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:12 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kids marching into the gas chamber in slow motion to "death of a clown" by the Kinks

reviews are pretty rapturous, maybe throwing off all the Daddy baggage at the end of Darjeeling Limited actually worked.

Wish the whole movie was 'Bill Murray Hosted Tour' but I'll take what I can get

when is this getting a full u.s. release?

Tilda Swinton: 'She's tall, she's Scottish, she does what she wants"

Goes wide in the States on 6/8/2012.

Or I should say "Less Limited", cause they aren't in Houston and other markets then.

love that murray vid

AV Club gave this an A: http://www.avclub.com/articles/moonrise-kingdom,75568/

LOL @ Bill Murray video

"it's a spiced rum"

Cannot wait to see this film!

Comes to DC next week. I guess it's a steady roll-out.

Isn't what a lot of people hate about Anderson a perceived fetishization of aesthetic quirkiness, emotional sensitivity, and childhood nostalgia -- in other words, a sense that he's twee as fuck?

UK release today. Came to it as an unrepentant stan of Anderson's previous work - Rushmore esp. is one of my favourite films.

I really liked it: looks great as ever, although strange seeing his usual camera tricks and slides done in beautiful soft super 16mm. For a period piece, the aesthetic is basically the same as all his other films (particularly The RT's ) ie. if it wasn't stated "it's 1965" then (apart from the police car) you'd never guess. For its shortish run time it felt really dense and there was lots of quick editing so will def. need a second viewing to get the detail.

The cast are all good and special mention to Norton who was a lot better than I expected him to be. The main kids were both decent, although the lead lad speaks like he's got a mouth full of marbles the whole time. Felt to me like Anderson was a bit less buttoned-up than on Darjeeling, in a good way - there were some really atmospheric outdoors shots, and wonderful location scouting with a Swallows & Amazons vibe a lot of the time. Use of music was less dead-on than in some of his other stuff, and if I'd not seen Desplat credited would never have noticed his contribution (again, this might come out more on further viewings). Not much here that will convince non-fans of Anderson's style, but a lot to love for those who are on side.

this definitely looks more like the kind of WA i like, i am tentatively excited after feeling various degres of letdownness since tenenbaums

visual style looks like instagram

dont put the cart before the horse here.

On a cameo(s) related note, there was not enough Schwartzman for my liking, although he does some good work with minimal screentime. Keitel given nothing to do. Swinton as great as ever + ace outfit.

http://vimeo.com/20089652

Isn't what a lot of people hate about Anderson a perceived fetishization of aesthetic quirkiness, emotional sensitivity, and childhood nostalgia -- in other words, a sense that he's twee as fuck?

― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Friday, May 25, 2012 3:20 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was this apropo of anyting in particular?

wes anderson's movies are fun! for the most part! i'll go see this.

I thought it was, but on rereading the thread, perhaps not. I guess I was just trying to pinpoint what the haters hate about W.A. (you said you found it weird how polarizing he was) -- although I guess there's a larger question about why anything remotely "twee" provokes such derision.

(xp to Am)

for me its as simple as, his early movies were about people i wanted to spend time with, and his later ones were about people i wanted to stuff into lockers and give swirlies to

jaymc, w/ all due respect, that argument has been had a zillion times since the late 1990s and it doesn't get any more interesting. there are people who won't like a WA movie, and those who will, and i'm OK w/ that.

wes asserson

i guess the things that people see as major flaws i either just don't see, or find it easy to ignore. the arguments tend to take place somewhere kind of far away from what i most appreciate about his films anyhow.

i think for me i was such a huge fan of his first couple movies, thought they hit the perfect balance between his curatorial/affected side and a more freewheeling kind of deadpan hilarity, that when he gave into the former, i just felt like it unbalanced them

esp since what seems to be the archetypal anderson film, royal tenenbaums, is not one of my biggest favorites.

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