Modern Rock #1 Hits of 1995

"in...a thyatrrr" is like a master class in how to be a terrible singer

Says the death metal fan.

God why must people be so fucking tiresome

Too much time online maybe?

Whoever first mentioned Laroquette - thank you! It got Night Court on my mind & that ended up being the answer to a question at my weekly trivia game. Yay!

I've got no love for Alanis, especially since I grew up in her hometown and could not avoid her shit as a teenager, but what's wrong with her pronunciation/vocal delivery on the "theatre" line? The enunciation is a little exaggerated. Is that it?

I don't really see anything technically weak about "You Oughta Know". I can appreciate why it's a well-crafted song. I just always take the guy's side when I hear it.

votin lump

I forgot to mention before that "You Oughta' Know" feels, to me, like a series of messages left on an ex's answering machine (while he and his current girlfriend are trying to eat dinner in the next room, obvs).

this is kind of the point/why it's great

I just always take the guy's side when I hear it.

this is worse than just disliking it tbh

i will never ever ever ever ever ever ever get tired of JAR

"Thyatrr" cribbed wholesale from Natalie Merchant

I liked Glycerine and When I Come Around quite a bit when I was 14, but they were def the twin points of no return as far as modern rock was concerned...

Green Day, "When I Come Around" - probably my least favorite track on Dookie, never got it as a hit at all. zzzz.
Live, "Lightning Crashes" - hated this at the time, have warmed up to it a bit, not at all their best though
Better Than Ezra, "Good" - harmless, enjoyable, catchy
Soul Asylum, "Misery" - don't know
U2, "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me" - i only ever heard the weird al version which sucked
Alanis Morissette, "You Oughta Know" - effective but its shrillness does put me off even though i actually really admire what it's doing
Green Day, "JAR" - don't remember this
Silverchair,"Tomorrow" - this is really good IMO - catchy...weird hook, some surprises, pretty little guitar bit in the middle, doesn't overstay its welcome
Bush, "Comedown" - grating, easily the weakest of the sixteen stone singles
Goo Goo Dolls, "Name" - this is really well-done, blows "Iris" away for sure.
Alanis Morissette, "Hand in My Pocket" - i like this a lot, recently been undermined by weird popularity as a bad choice of songs to sing at live-piano karaoke, which is not a format that favors this song
Presidents of the USA, "Lump" - great, doesn't really transcend its goofiness although the first verse is pretty great lyrically
Red Hot Chili Peppers, "My Friends" - i only remember this from a weird al polka medley and it seemed boring
Bush, "Glycerine" - better than "comedown" but still ugh. i remember mtv later lionizing that spring break performance, like he was a heroic tragic figure because singing in the rain like that meant he was risking being electrified
Oasis, "Wonderwall" - excellent songwriting, nice clear production, memorable on every level - probably the best thing here but just ruined by overplay.

voting for silverchair.

man i love "when i come around" for some reason

― horseshoe, Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that said, i'm voting for "lump"

― The Reverend, Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:25 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Read an interview with Flea around that time in which he bragged about having bought the fretless only a day or so before recording "You Oughtta Know". Anybody with ears already knew that, dude, sorry.

the two green day tracks here are way above the rest, which is saying something. alanis always has been and always will be terrible.

oh wow i'd been blocking out "lump" in this thread the entire time... the presidents were so effing bad

Driven by the singles "Lump", "Peaches", and "Kitty", their debut album proved to be an absolute delight[citation needed].

The key to PotUSA was in the basitar and guitbass though.

Did those guys ever cross paths with FutureMan?

I think 'Come Down' is beautiful, not "grating". There is never going to be enough people that share my music taste (I call it Whiney G syndrome)

I remember my high school friend being ashamed of owning a Bush cd during their prime. I'm not sure why

If there's one thing I've learned from ILM, it's that it's okay to listen to crappy music as long as you like it. I have a playlist called "mediocre modern rock" that has 5 Bush singles as well as two versions of Times Like These by the Foo Fighters. God, how I despised Bush in their heyday, but listening to what's come along since on rock radio, I get very nostalgic for them.

yeah i liked comedown and definitely don't get glycerine being better than it, glycerine was just kind of sappy and boring

great i think i have to check out sixteen stone again

If there's one thing I've learned from ILM, it's that it's okay to listen to crappy music as long as you like it.

if you can't defend your crappy taste, what good are you as a citizen?

Well I'm here
To remind you
That this is karaoke gold
It's not fair
To deny that
You don't mosh when your friends perform this
You
You
You then sing "Kiss"

(the real problem is that Alanis's unhinged vocal delivery is absolutely A+ perfect for "You Oughta Know" and hilariously out of place and ridiculous on, say, "Ironic")

voting for silverchair.

Was not expecting to see these words on this thread

it's a very hard sentiment to drink

haha

I liked the Silverchair track then and it's listenable now but the lyrics are truly WTF...

There's no bathroom and there is no sink
The water out of the tap is very hard to drink

Very hard to drink,
You gonna wait too, fat boy,
Fat boy, wait til tomorrow

??

LOL xpost

How can you drink water from the tap if there's no sink? The hose in front of the house?

australia really stuck by those dudes

Hold Me Thrill Me... is the best song here by a fair distance, it pains me to admit (usually a hardcore U2 hater, but that's quite a goodun)

five albums over 12 years, all number #1s and all going 3-9 times platinum. i remember catching some later video and being blown away when i found out it was silverchair and not, like, razorlight or something

i call bs on hold me thrill me and suspect there's just a lingering attachment to how hyped it was being part of the batman circus

No, I think it's a decent melodramatic pop number.

Everything else here is turgid, TBH.

kinda bummed i'm not hearing more "good" praise

It was pretty easy to learn on the bass, I'll give it that.

nah i expect it re: bte BUT KNOW BETTER

I can't imagine anyone feeling lingering fondness for the marketing campaign behind Joel Schumacher's Batman. When I hear Hold Me Thrill Me now I think of it as a great lost Zooropa single. I don't think of Val Kilmer and smile.

"tomorrow" is sunk by some of the worst lyrics in post-grunge

I don't think of Val Kilmer and smile.

Who does?

i smile when i think of fat val kilmer

i was saying anyone goes back to remembering batman via the song but overall it definitely had extra hype around it due to the batman thing and that hype, not batman itself, is obvi lingering and clouding judgement here

I smile when I think of Val Kilmer in the Island of Dr Moreau.

there are plenty of U2 songs i dig but not this POS

vote Alanis obv

i vividly remember an MTV News segment about Silverchair in which the fact that Mark Pellington of "Jeremy" fame directed the "Tomorrow" video figured heavily in building up the band's grunge cred, and Kurt Loder talked about Pellington over the part of the video with the pigface guy and while Daniel Johns shrieked "FAT BOYEEE, FAT BOYEEE!" so now in my mind poor Mark Pellington = pigfaced fat boy

i was saying anyone goes back to remembering batman via the song but overall it definitely had extra hype around it due to the batman thing and that hype, not batman itself, is obvi lingering and clouding judgement here

Yeah, I was pretty entranced with Batman Forever's marketing. It's why I joined the Seal fan club and have all four McDonald's glasses in a bulletproof case.

Or, maybe, I enjoy "Hold Me, Thrill Me..." because it was the last really good U2 song and not so much because of its connection to a movie from fifteen+ years ago that I barely remember. HMMMMMM

I WASN'T. WASN'T.