I forgot to mention before that "You Oughta' Know" feels, to me, like a series of messages left on an ex's answering machine (while he and his current girlfriend are trying to eat dinner in the next room, obvs).
this is kind of the point/why it's great
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 24 May 2012 06:30 (eleven years ago) link
I just always take the guy's side when I hear it.
this is worse than just disliking it tbh
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 24 May 2012 06:31 (eleven years ago) link
i will never ever ever ever ever ever ever get tired of JAR
― billstevejim, Thursday, 24 May 2012 06:39 (eleven years ago) link
"Thyatrr" cribbed wholesale from Natalie Merchant
I liked Glycerine and When I Come Around quite a bit when I was 14, but they were def the twin points of no return as far as modern rock was concerned...
― thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 24 May 2012 06:41 (eleven years ago) link
Green Day, "When I Come Around" - probably my least favorite track on Dookie, never got it as a hit at all. zzzz.Live, "Lightning Crashes" - hated this at the time, have warmed up to it a bit, not at all their best thoughBetter Than Ezra, "Good" - harmless, enjoyable, catchySoul Asylum, "Misery" - don't knowU2, "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me" - i only ever heard the weird al version which suckedAlanis Morissette, "You Oughta Know" - effective but its shrillness does put me off even though i actually really admire what it's doingGreen Day, "JAR" - don't remember thisSilverchair,"Tomorrow" - this is really good IMO - catchy...weird hook, some surprises, pretty little guitar bit in the middle, doesn't overstay its welcomeBush, "Comedown" - grating, easily the weakest of the sixteen stone singlesGoo Goo Dolls, "Name" - this is really well-done, blows "Iris" away for sure.Alanis Morissette, "Hand in My Pocket" - i like this a lot, recently been undermined by weird popularity as a bad choice of songs to sing at live-piano karaoke, which is not a format that favors this songPresidents of the USA, "Lump" - great, doesn't really transcend its goofiness although the first verse is pretty great lyricallyRed Hot Chili Peppers, "My Friends" - i only remember this from a weird al polka medley and it seemed boringBush, "Glycerine" - better than "comedown" but still ugh. i remember mtv later lionizing that spring break performance, like he was a heroic tragic figure because singing in the rain like that meant he was risking being electrifiedOasis, "Wonderwall" - excellent songwriting, nice clear production, memorable on every level - probably the best thing here but just ruined by overplay.
voting for silverchair.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 24 May 2012 07:23 (eleven years ago) link
man i love "when i come around" for some reason
― horseshoe, Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that said, i'm voting for "lump"
― The Reverend, Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:25 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Snowqueen's Icedragon (crüt), Thursday, 24 May 2012 07:49 (eleven years ago) link
Read an interview with Flea around that time in which he bragged about having bought the fretless only a day or so before recording "You Oughtta Know". Anybody with ears already knew that, dude, sorry.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 24 May 2012 08:44 (eleven years ago) link
the two green day tracks here are way above the rest, which is saying something. alanis always has been and always will be terrible.
― Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 24 May 2012 09:48 (eleven years ago) link
oh wow i'd been blocking out "lump" in this thread the entire time... the presidents were so effing bad
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 24 May 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link
Driven by the singles "Lump", "Peaches", and "Kitty", their debut album proved to be an absolute delight[citation needed].
― how's life, Thursday, 24 May 2012 11:41 (eleven years ago) link
The key to PotUSA was in the basitar and guitbass though.
― how's life, Thursday, 24 May 2012 11:43 (eleven years ago) link
Did those guys ever cross paths with FutureMan?
― how's life, Thursday, 24 May 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link
I think 'Come Down' is beautiful, not "grating". There is never going to be enough people that share my music taste (I call it Whiney G syndrome)
I remember my high school friend being ashamed of owning a Bush cd during their prime. I'm not sure why
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 24 May 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
If there's one thing I've learned from ILM, it's that it's okay to listen to crappy music as long as you like it. I have a playlist called "mediocre modern rock" that has 5 Bush singles as well as two versions of Times Like These by the Foo Fighters. God, how I despised Bush in their heyday, but listening to what's come along since on rock radio, I get very nostalgic for them.
― how's life, Thursday, 24 May 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i liked comedown and definitely don't get glycerine being better than it, glycerine was just kind of sappy and boring
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 24 May 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link
great i think i have to check out sixteen stone again
If there's one thing I've learned from ILM, it's that it's okay to listen to crappy music as long as you like it.
if you can't defend your crappy taste, what good are you as a citizen?
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 12:19 (eleven years ago) link
Well I'm hereTo remind youThat this is karaoke goldIt's not fairTo deny thatYou don't mosh when your friends perform thisYouYouYou then sing "Kiss"
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Thursday, 24 May 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
(the real problem is that Alanis's unhinged vocal delivery is absolutely A+ perfect for "You Oughta Know" and hilariously out of place and ridiculous on, say, "Ironic")
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Thursday, 24 May 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
Was not expecting to see these words on this thread
― skip, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
it's a very hard sentiment to drink
― da croupier, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link
haha
― horseshoe, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
I liked the Silverchair track then and it's listenable now but the lyrics are truly WTF...
There's no bathroom and there is no sinkThe water out of the tap is very hard to drink
Very hard to drink,You gonna wait too, fat boy,Fat boy, wait til tomorrow
??
― skip, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
LOL xpost
How can you drink water from the tap if there's no sink? The hose in front of the house?
― LimbsKing, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
australia really stuck by those dudes
― da croupier, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
Hold Me Thrill Me... is the best song here by a fair distance, it pains me to admit (usually a hardcore U2 hater, but that's quite a goodun)
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
five albums over 12 years, all number #1s and all going 3-9 times platinum. i remember catching some later video and being blown away when i found out it was silverchair and not, like, razorlight or something
― da croupier, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
i call bs on hold me thrill me and suspect there's just a lingering attachment to how hyped it was being part of the batman circus
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
No, I think it's a decent melodramatic pop number.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
Everything else here is turgid, TBH.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
kinda bummed i'm not hearing more "good" praise
― da croupier, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
It was pretty easy to learn on the bass, I'll give it that.
― pplains, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
nah i expect it re: bte BUT KNOW BETTER
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
I can't imagine anyone feeling lingering fondness for the marketing campaign behind Joel Schumacher's Batman. When I hear Hold Me Thrill Me now I think of it as a great lost Zooropa single. I don't think of Val Kilmer and smile.
― Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
"tomorrow" is sunk by some of the worst lyrics in post-grunge
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think of Val Kilmer and smile.
Who does?
― Mark G, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
i smile when i think of fat val kilmer
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
i was saying anyone goes back to remembering batman via the song but overall it definitely had extra hype around it due to the batman thing and that hype, not batman itself, is obvi lingering and clouding judgement here
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link
I smile when I think of Val Kilmer in the Island of Dr Moreau.
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
there are plenty of U2 songs i dig but not this POS
vote Alanis obv
― Cyders from Mars (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
i vividly remember an MTV News segment about Silverchair in which the fact that Mark Pellington of "Jeremy" fame directed the "Tomorrow" video figured heavily in building up the band's grunge cred, and Kurt Loder talked about Pellington over the part of the video with the pigface guy and while Daniel Johns shrieked "FAT BOYEEE, FAT BOYEEE!" so now in my mind poor Mark Pellington = pigfaced fat boy
― some dude, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I was pretty entranced with Batman Forever's marketing. It's why I joined the Seal fan club and have all four McDonald's glasses in a bulletproof case.
Or, maybe, I enjoy "Hold Me, Thrill Me..." because it was the last really good U2 song and not so much because of its connection to a movie from fifteen+ years ago that I barely remember. HMMMMMM
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
I WASN'T. WASN'T.
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
besides the point it's still a wack song
"Hold Me" placed at #30 in the U2 tracks poll, only later songs that placed higher were "Beautiful Day" and "Miss Sarajevo" (which of course came out the same year and wasn't technically a U2 song), so "last really good U2 song" isn't too controversal an assertion really
― some dude, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
Silverchair did some aging, holy crap
1995: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_K5ADcrHFv74/S11xjepXAVI/AAAAAAAAD8s/BFAjMUXj3Ow/s320/silverchair2.jpg
Now: http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/artists/304x304/silverchair.jpg
I was expecting something more along the lines of Hanson... http://www.billboard.com/photos/artist/178836-hanson.jpg
― skip, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
Ewwww
― Look at how funky he is! (jer.fairall), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
wow diplo is now the lead singer of silverchair
― some dude, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I forgot the Passengers album came out this year, too. Well, collectively, '95 was the last year U2 put out anything I really liked (although I tried hard to convince myself re: Pop).
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link