Modern Rock #1 Hits of 1995

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so until today i had never listened to this song on anything other than like a car stereo or computer speakers and i was like "oh wow theres some cool stuff going on w/the bass there" and off to wikipedia and now i'm like how did i never know that?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

The guys playing behind her in the video look like JC Penny models or something.

how's life, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

it's a song i'm v. ambivalent towards; i think the first half of the chorus bails out everything else.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

for a long time i thought "bear" was "baby" and the song was in part about getting knocked up

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

cross-eyed baby you gave to me?

how's life, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, what do you want i was 11 in 1995

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

cross-eyed babies on some serious 1995 shit. it's cool.

how's life, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

lol otm

anyway alanis always has a place in my heart for "uninvited" from her unplugged album, that shit is sick

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

Y'all, particularly DJP's long post (which i feel proud of myself for identifying as DJP two sentences in) are making me want to swing around and defend "You Oughta Know," don't really get the level of vitriol towards it. It's not my favorite thing on the album but it's well-delivered and effective post-breakup spleen-rock that connected with an audience convincingly and had some really memorable passages, yes partly because they were delivered in such a nonconventional (some would say "bad") way, but also because there were striking turns of phrase that were in fact pretty boundary-pushing for radio-oriented rock at the time. By the standards of indie/college stuff this is not a groundbreaking song, but by the standards of "we're trying really hard to have a giant hit record here" it's pretty gutsy to throw "would she go down on you in a theater" in the face of alt-rock's lingering macho bullshit. Amos or Phair it ain't (though the vocal tics make a lot of sense as an attempt to absorb the former) but it's not totally stupid.

If I don't go out of my way to hear it today it's because other aspects of it grate increasingly over time - - the wordless bridge in particular carried affective connotations of angst and the saturated sweep of overexposed wastelands at the time but the tactic has been so beaten into the ground that it just doesn't deliver anymore. On the other hand, Ballard's production generally kind of straddles the line between grunge and the busy, shimmery corporate folk-pop sound of the rest of the record (where I think it's pretty solid), meaning that the sound often seems insufficiently thick - - you sort of look around wondering "where'd the rhythm guitar go?" and you're left with clattering but muffled drums, echoing spooky leads (also muffled), and a hapless Flea. Not to say it should have been more "by the numbers" but I'd love to hear it done more in the style of, I dunno...Bush. Or L7 or Nirvana for that matter.

Singing this at karaoke once got me laid, although according to the girl my dancing had more to do with it but I still have a soft spot for the song. Stand by my Silverchair vote though.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

A Hapless Flea is the name of my dog.

it was a dark and stormy genitals. (Phil D.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

fwiw btw, "You Learn" is my favorite off this, closely followed by "All I Really Want" and "Hand In My Pocket," so just to be clear I am not hating on Ballard's radio-ready shine, just saying "You Oughta Know" is an awkward hybrid, although I could also buy somebody saying that's what's nice about it, it doesn't sound like a totally generic '94/95 rock radio song.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

I like "Hand Over Feet" for the way her voice plays off the guitar licks. On the other hand the vocal on "All I Really Want" is grossgrossgross

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

*Head Over Feet, heh

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

"Hand over the feet and nobody gets hurt!"

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

Singing this at karaoke once got me laid, although according to the girl my dancing had more to do with it but I still have a soft spot for the song.

― Doctor Casino, Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:11 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

really cracking up trying to picture a dude singing YOK at karaoke while dancing seductively

some dude, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

A Hapless Flea is the name of my dog.

yo rong thread

thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

xp Now I know how badly clouded my judgement is by the hype around a film I didn't see 17 years ago I wish I could take back my vote.

Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

if you are really looking for an example of "I don't think this singer actually understands English", you can't do much better than "All I Really Want"

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think I ever heard that song

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

oh you are in for a TREAT

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

am listening to Geek Stink Breath right now, and it's actually not bad. I never hear this song, and I'm always pleasantly surprised by it when I do

thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

along the lines of "moody songs from later in these artists careers that i like," ana's song (open fire) still rules

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

Alanis is the epitome and greatest example of female strength, intelligence and the "blue" aura!!

Cuishi10 9 months ago

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

my last post was an xpost from sd saying JAR is better GSB (which it is but)

thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

I'm a 30 year old dude who sings this lyric for lyric in the tone of Alanis Morisette. lol Love this song.

PhuryousOne 1 month ago

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

the "blue" aura?

horseshoe, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

are we talking about 50 shades of grey again?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

All I really want
Is an antacid
Because my stoawowohwowaomach is killing me

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

oh you are in for a TREAT

lolll oh holy shit this really does touch all the bases doesn't it

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

I mean I think I made it clear upthread; my defense of Alanis itt pretty much ends at "You Oughta Know"

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

I will concede that she is, for me, behind a certain Rawlsian veil of teenagerdom where I can't ever sit down and be objective and say "All I Really Want is kind of not a very good song" because I know every word and just love singing along and always will.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

I know we were not the only people to do something like this but my wife and I retitled "Ironic" to "A Bitch" to make the lyrics more accurate

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

'Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me'... which was probably the last time I heard a U2 that made me go: "hey, I usually loathe this band, but that wasn't too bad..."

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

The thing with "All I Really Want" is how it starts mysterioso and ominous before transforming into the sound of a baby gargoyle stuffed in a blender.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

*track

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

Also, language experts, how, pray, did she come up with "and ah'm CONSUMED by the CHEEL of SOLitaree..."?

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

I know we were not the only people to do something like this but my wife and I retitled "Ironic" to "A Bitch" to make the lyrics more accurate

IRL lols

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

just watched the first 1:30 of the "Isn't It Ironic" video

erase the fucking 90s imo

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

Alanis: 'Why are you so petrified of silence... here, can you handle this?' *silence*

Me: "ah, relief".

Alanis: 'Did you think about your...'

Me: "ARGH! ARGHHHH!"

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

see I love the 90s because to me that means this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5yRipYVr7U

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

oh no I know, the 90s wasn't exactly hard times for good metal either, but to me Alanis:"the 90s"::Depeche Mode:"the 80s"

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

when i think about the 90s, i think about adina howard

The Reverend, Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

actually i just think about adina howard all the time

The Reverend, Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

("yo pardon, that bitch been on my mind all week", as ghostface said of her)

The Reverend, Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

don't it make you sad to know that life
is more than who we are

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

I'm ironic, I'm a lover, I'm a child, I'm a mother, I'm etc

thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

(Just seein if it worked the other way around)

thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

when i think about the 90s, i think about adina howard

"Freak Like Me" was my #2 that year, behind "Be Happy."

clemenza, Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

one of the guys that produced "Freak Like Me" is from Baltimore! i saw the platinum plaque in his basement studio

some dude, Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link


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