Dub / Reggae: An Idiot's Guide

"Fancy Make Up" is one of my favorite all-time songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXVy-nGefNo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-r6ORp7CkU

I'm desperately looking for Sylford Walker + Welton Irie - Lambsbread International - Blood & Fire and Darker than Blue comp also on Blood & Fire without having to pay ridiculous internet prices. If anyone sees a copy in their local used racks, i'd gladly pay $10/disc + shipping.

Sorta amazed those discs are rare at this point. Where is Ernie's getting the "new" B&F CDs they have from?

I love this one. Harry Mudie feat. Lloyd Jones - Rome. There's a Roman Dub version which is wicked as well. Don't know if it's dub/reggae per se but would love to listen to more of this sort of thing if you can recommend any. The one I've got sounds lusher than this youtube... probably a remaster.

Guitar lick is pretty similar to Clarence Carter's Slip Away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXMJODn8gzs

if you haven't already got it, the album this is from is essential:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESasEHZjbDw

thank you, scott. i am now haunted by the phrase "lice in a dread".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22bs6jyXHn0

the 3 Harry Mudie meets King Tubby dub albums are awesome

influenced by scott, i made my 1st vinyl order from ernie b's recently and am eagerly awaiting its arrival. the only reggae I have on vinyl is a Greensleeves thing w/Yellowman, Purpleman, and Sister Nancy I inherited from my uncle.

I bought the Keith Hudson 7" for Turn The Heater On off eBay this week. Can't wait for it to show up.

Bloody Eyes 12" is in my order, is Turn the Heater On a non-album track? Wanted to get some Wackies but it's all too pricey. Def am wary of falling into the vinyl heroin trap.

I really want to get into dubby Reggae but I find it hard to find an inroad. A lot of dubs are so noodly and recapitulated, and it's hard to find something to anchor it all together.

There are a few cuts on Trinity's 'Shanty Town Termination' that I really like. 'Congoman' by The Congos is one of the earliest examples I've found of a drum machine in reggae. This is a great track. Jackie Mittoo's got some pleasant stuff on 'Macka Fat'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmgKmIFqiU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnIe1hEviBs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeKghD6exeY

And right now I'm getting into Linton Qwesi Johnson, a 'dub poet'. I think it's more interesting to listen to than a lot of 'toasting' deejay records because there's more of a point to what he's saying. Then at the end of a lot of his record everything goes all dubby --- so it's the best of both worlds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykU4T7lPna4

I wish I was as discerning as you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRpxMmSm0Ek

this is really good

Isn't King Spinna, Barrow's new label?

Since there isn't a Pressure Sounds thread this'll have to do. Anyone heard the last couple of Lee Perry Pressure Sounds releases? The Sound Doctor looks especially good. Also news of a Yabby You collection of rare 45s and whatnot. Odd.

"King Spinna is a brand new label founded by Bob Harding and Dom Sotgiu, formerly of Blood and Fire."

would assume they'd mention Barrow if he was involved. Yabby You could be great. I haven't heard any of those Scratch collections--last thing I got on PS was the Clancy Eccles/Tubby dub set.

yeah its by other b+f dudes. barrow's thing was 'hot pot'

Hot Pot is dead too. Even the supposed last B&F thing (the General Echo one) came out on Equalizer or something.

Barrow is doing an album cover book for Soul Jazz.

The Dancehall comp he did for Soul Jazz was great. I wish that had turned into a proper series--they might have even eventually gotten to the 90s

Alex you mean the Sound System Scratch and Return of..., right? They're not essential and the sound quality of a couple of the source tracks is awful but I'd still recommend them to any Black Ark lovers.

Yeah and there is a new one The Sound Doctor that just came out.

Just ordered it

Kinda weird that all these odds and scraps Perry things come out and no one can figure out how to re-ish To Be A Lover as an example.

Trojan repackaging Open The Gate as Disco Devil (pretty awesome tracklist though):

Norman – Max Romeo & the Upsetters
Bad Weed – Junior Murvin
I Forgot to Be Your Lover (aka To Be a Lover) – George Faith
Know Love – Twin Roots
Rainy Night in Portland – Watty Burnett
Disco Devil – Lee Perry & Full Experience
City Too Hot – Lee Perry
Words – Sangie Davis & Lee Perry
Roots Train - Junior Murvin & Dillinger
Open the Gate – Watty Burnett
Neckodememus – The Congos
Rasta Train – Raphael Green & Doctor Alimantado
Ketch Vampire – Devon Irons & Doctor Alimantado
History (Of Civilisation) – Carlton Jackson
Sons of Slaves – Junior Delgado
Party Time – The Heptones
Free Up the Prisoners – Lee 'Scratch' Perry
Garden Of Life – Leroy Sibbles

I apparently missed that TROJAN did re-ish the original Jamaican version of To Be A Lover as:

http://www.amazon.com/Super-Eight-George-Faith/dp/B007EN9KUC/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1352174904&sr=1-1&keywords=george+faith+super+eight

So there you go.

It's not the "original Jamaican version," but rather the Island version in the original sleeve. I'm sad to say . . .

Is there a difference? I haven't heard of one (though I've never looked, I always thought "TBAL" the weakest of Perry's run of late 7s Island LPs.)

(Still v v good though, obv.)

Yeah I think it's basically the same mix slightly reordered and with an add'l track.

No additional track, the Trojan page just makes it look like there are nine songs instead of eight. It's the same mix, I have the JA version, which is pretty different, so this is just deceptive marketing on Teojan's part.

That said, I think this album is underrated. Not as good as the Congos' work with Perry, but more solid than Junior Murvin's "Police And Thieves" as an album, and to my ears about as cool as "Super Ape" - the primary difference being that this album pays homage to American soul of the period rather than dub and insanity.

Yeah Upsetter.net was what indicated the add'l song.

I love the George Faith album.
Has anyone heard "Lee Scratch Perry Presents Candy Mckenzie"?

I love Yabby U (You) and have just ordered the new collection on Pressure Sounds. Clips sound terrific. Figured some people reading this thread would be interested. The ltd ed. 2xLP is only 67 copies (>65 now :)

http://www.pressure.co.uk/store/PS77/yabby-you-deeper-roots/

i put this on the youtube. so cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIqnV037bec

put this up too. great instrumental and awesome proto-rap staple singers sample at the beginning. from 1972.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VqMnzxANEg

whoah wtf how did they do that

oh man total ear candy

http://www.johnnyspencer.info/imagetexts16/tubbysinfullswingLK.htm

http://boomkat.com/cds/620423-keith-hudson-torch-of-freedom

With the Basic Replay imprint now dormant, I was worried that this crucial piece of the Keith Hudson puzzle might never get reissued. But there is now a CD version of Torch of Freedom out and it's a doozy. Wish they'd do vinyl on it but still...

That's funny, my copy of Torch of Freedom just arrived in the mail today, and I was driving around enjoying it deeply. The relative hit "Turn The Heater On" holds up especially well. The sound's great and the packaging is true to the original, with excellent liner notes.

It's tough to recommend Keith Hudson to the reggae novice, since he has a strange (some would say awful) voice and (as the liner notes say, "Keith Hudson's dubs often took the form of meandering instrumentals that would lose all shape after a spliff or two. Impressionistic in feel, it was as if they had no beginning or end." In other words, it's not foe everyone! But I like his odd voice, and there's some sort of zen beauty in his "formless" dubs that's consistent enough that it comes across as a well-defined style, and if you like one or two, you'll probably end up liking most of them. The album is kind of a "showcase" album - meaning the dubs follow the vocal versions.

i love full-length LPs where the dub follows the vocal mix. kinda my favorite thing. i have two john holt records like this and they are real faves of mine.

Got my copy of Torch of Freedom recently as well. It's really great and a perfect compliment to the Basic Replay reissues. Other than those 3 reissues, the 2 CD collection of Hudson productions, Brand and Pick A Dub are all essentials.

So I guess Hot Milk is new. Neat.

THREE releases on Basic Replay? What am I missing on CD - I've got the following:

Brand (Pressure Sounds)
Entering The Dragon (Trojan)
Flesh Of My Skin (Basic Replay)
Greatest Hits, Volume 1 (Sky High & Mau Mau)
Pick A Dub (Pressure Sounds)
Rasta Communication - Expanded Edition (Greensleeves)
Too Expensive (Virgin)
Torch Of Freedom (Hot Milk)
Studio Kinda Cloudy (Trojan)

I don't have "Playing It Cool." What else is there?

nuh skin up
from one extreme to another

Sorry, i'm replying on my phone so was too brief in my last comment. There are only 2 Basic Replay reissues but I included the Torch of Freedom in my '3 reissues' comment since they're similar in quality and vibe. In addition to what you have, I highly recommend The Hudson Affair 2CD set and you absolutely should get Playing it Cool immediately. I believe most of Nuh Skin Up is on the reissue of Rasta Communication but you should get that if you're missing any of the tracks on there. From One Extreme to Another is a bit spotty in my opinion.

What is the greatest hits vol1 disc you have?