Drugs, Murder and Mexico

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won't anyone answer my questions about alevosía?

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 25 May 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

La Lechera I think we call that "overkill"

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 25 May 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

wordreference translates alevosía as either treachery, aforethought (as in murder aforethought) or premeditation so your friend's use my be colloquial or new.

Mad dog killing? I don't think English has a single word. Gruesome, barbarous, deranged all spring to mind as adjectives but overkill lacks enough punch to convey what she's talking about.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 25 May 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

Overkill makes me think of someone trying too hard or wasting effort. Drug-trafficking atrocities are meant as terrorizing warnings.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 25 May 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

overkill comes from the nuclear arms race initially tho iirc. so pretty punchy there.

the fey monster (ledge), Friday, 25 May 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

Did not know that, interesting.
I still wouldn't imagine anyone describing what is going on in Mexico as "overkill" based on the changing connotation of that word over time.

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

Overkill implies there is a correct amount of kill and you, friend, went over it.

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

mayhem

the late great, Friday, 25 May 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

Are you guys familiar with fusilar?

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

It's a one-word verb that means "to kill by firing squad".

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure there's a Greek word for it, Achilles dragging Hector around the walls of Troy is an example kinda right

xp yeah same root as "fusillade" right?

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

Right. Afaik, there is no widely used one-word verb equivalent in English?

game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure it comes from fusil. Fusiller in French (which comes from fusil, a gun or shotgun) means to shoot, though tirer, (literally 'to pull') is used more often for a single shooter. Fusiller tends to mean there were several shoots from several people.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

Interestingly, if you fusilles someone with your eyes, in English it would be to look daggers at them.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

This documentary is showing in Chicago this weekend:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvqpyZ1Jzng

Odd Spice (Eazy), Saturday, 26 May 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/13/us/drug-money-from-mexico-makes-its-way-to-the-racetrack.html

Pretty interesting. Not sure if this was posted elsewhere.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that was a great story. reads like a real life Breaking Bad episode.

dmr, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

since you're the expert, should I start making picks based on whether the word "cartel" is in the horse's name?

It works when you see a greyhound from Kenosha.

pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

i can't remember the last time i read through all 6 pages of a NYT story. this one was worth it. thx poly

toandos, Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, great read

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 June 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

if i was that dude villareal i think i'd have gone to jail instead of turned. zetas don't fuck around!

the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link

plenty of zetas in jail too

decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 14 June 2012 02:52 (eleven years ago) link

well if he hadn't informed then the zetas in jail would be cool, right?

the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 02:53 (eleven years ago) link

if i was that dude villareal i think i'd have gone to jail instead of turned.

ya srsly

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 June 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link

was thinking the same thing

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 14 June 2012 03:17 (eleven years ago) link

the article talked around villareal being gay, right?

toandos, Thursday, 14 June 2012 08:04 (eleven years ago) link

Referred to him as being "effeminate".

pplains, Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:09 (eleven years ago) link

and being interested in women's fashion

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link

still

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link

i was thinking maybe that's why he didn't want to go to jail?

the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

possibly not him?!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 24 June 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

Apparently a "car salesman"/body double(?) -- http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/mexico/120623/felix-beltran-el-chapo-el-gordo-guzman-arrest-sinaloa-drug-lord

The US Drug Enforcement Administration was credited with providing the intelligence that led to Thursday's raid, and had applauded the arrest, the Washington Post reported.

RCMP, Sunday, 24 June 2012 04:43 (eleven years ago) link

New William Finnegan report:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/07/02/120702fa_fact_finnegan

Odd Spice (Eazy), Monday, 25 June 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i have a fondness for targeting institutions for their role in the global drug trade

A US Senate investigation has disclosed how lax controls at Europe's largest bank allowed dirty cash to be laundered for almost a decade.

The report into HSBC, released ahead of a Senate hearing on Tuesday, says Mexican drug money passed through the bank over seven years.

Suspicious funds from Syria, the Cayman Islands, Iran and Saudi Arabia also passed through the bank.

HSBC said it expected to be held accountable for what went wrong.

The damning report comes at a difficult time for the British banking sector, with standards and practices are under the spotlight.

Critics say the current furore over the manipulation of the Libor inter-bank interest rate is the latest example of a banking system in need of fundamental reform.

The report also concludes that the US bank regulator, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, failed to properly monitor HSBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18866018

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 16 July 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

Not really drugs, but guns -- is anyone following the reception of this Fast and Furious report from the inspector general?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-ig-critical-of-atf-in-gun-operation/2012/09/19/379daf18-0273-11e2-8102-ebee9c66e190_story.html

The inspector general’s report recommended that the Justice Department review the actions of 14 officials and consider whether disciplinary action is warranted. Among them are former acting deputy attorney general Gary Grindler, Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, former acting ATF director Kenneth Melson, former ATF special agent in charge William Newell and Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein.

The inquiry “did not find persuasive evidence that any supervisor in Phoenix, at either the U.S. Attorney’s Office or ATF, raised serious questions or concerns about the risk to public safety posed by the continuing firearms purchases or by the delay in arresting individuals who were engaging in the trafficking,” Michael Horowitz, the Justice Department’s inspector general, wrote in the 471-page report. “This failure reflected a significant lack of oversight and urgency by both ATF and the U.S. Attorney’s Office.”

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 21 September 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

There's a link to a pdf of the report if reading 500 pages of government document is your bag.

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 21 September 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Shit... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/26/maria-santos-gorrostieta-dead-mexico-mayor-tortured-killed_n_2193219.html?utm_hp_ref=world

Earlier this month, Maria Santos Gorrostieta, a former small-town mayor in the drug-trafficking western state of Michoacan in Mexico, was reportedly kidnapped in broad daylight in front of her young daughter.

A few days later, her body was found by the side of a road in the southern part of the state. It is believed that the woman was tortured before she was killed, the Los Angeles Times reports.

Gorrostieta had previously survived two assassination attempts, the LA times adds. The first, in 2009, had claimed the life of her husband, Jose Sanchez, another former mayor of the town; while the second, three months later, had left her badly wounded.

The newspaper continues:

Gorrostieta had been mayor of Tiquicheo, a remote town in the so-called hotlands of Michoacan, farmland firmly under the thumb of drug-trafficking cartels. She had denounced traffickers; she also had to confront accusations that her late husband was involved in criminal business.

Gorrostieta, whose mayoral term ended in 2011, reportedly knew that her life was constantly in danger. Yet, even after her husband was murdered and the second attempt on her life left her riddled with bullets and "in constant pain," Gorrostieta refused to give in, the Christian Post notes.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 26 November 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link

ugh

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

Is there an expert on this situation on ilx that could give me some kind hope? or is it worsening?

Van Horn Street, Monday, 26 November 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

I think La Lechera is probably the most-versed on ilx in this stuff?

these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:30 (eleven years ago) link

I have nothing hopeful to add here at the moment, I'm afraid. It's my belief that by the time the news gets to US major news outlets, it's already somewhat out of date. So to prognosticate about whether things are getting "better" or "worse" is kinda futile.

However, I do think that changing attitudes about the various facets of the "war on drugs" in the US (Jarecki doc + Colorado vote signal something, even if no one is sure exactly what) could be a sign that some kind of change is on the way. On the other hand, Obama hasn't had a lot to say about Latin America lately.

In sum, who knows. I sure don't.

passion it person (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

MONTERREY, Mexico -- Searchers pulled 10 bodies from a well in northern Mexico on Monday, near the site where 20 members of a Colombian-style music group and its crew disappeared late last week, according to a state forensic official.

It was hard to determine how many more bodies were submersed in the water, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment publicly on the case.

Nuevo Leon state Gov. Rodrigo Medina earlier told a local television station, "We have evidence that indicates that (the bodies) may very well be the members of this band," though he said experts were still working to identify the corpses.

Sixteen members of the band Kombo Kolombia and four crew members were reported missing early Friday after playing for a private show at a bar in the town of Hidalgo north of Monterrey.

The forensic official said authorities had been searching for two days when they came upon the well Sunday along a dirt road in the town of Mina, about 140 miles (225 kilometers) from Laredo, Texas.

People living near the bar in Hidalgo reported hearing gunshots at about 4 a.m. Friday, followed by the sound of vehicles speeding away, said a separate source with the Nuevo Leon State Investigative Agency. He also spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to be quoted by the news media.

The officials added that gunfire is common in the area and said investigators found spent bullets nearby.

Relatives filed a missing persons report on Friday after losing cell phone contact with the musicians. When they went to the bar to investigate, they found the band members' vehicles still parked outside.

Kombo Kolombia has played a Colombian style of music known as vallenato, which is popular in Nuevo Leon state. Most of the group's musicians were from the area, though state officials said one of those missing is a Colombian citizen with Mexican residency.

It was Mexico's largest single kidnapping since 20 tourists from the western state of Michoacan were abducted in Acapulco in 2010. Most of their bodies were found a month later in a mass grave. Authorities said the tourists were mistaken for cartel members.

Members of other musical groups have been murdered in Mexico in recent years, usually groups that perform "narcocorridos" that celebrate the exploits of drug traffickers. But Kombo Kolombia did not play that type of music, and its lyrics did not deal with violence or drug trafficking.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/27/3203748/colombian-style-band-missing-in.html#storylink=cpy

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 28 January 2013 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

EEK! Not sure if I want to work around south Texas anymore. When I was in Port Isabel in 2010 people around there kept talking about the problems across the border in a way that made it sound activity was never far from the town. I am from a border town but I guess security or activity just didn't make it across often.

*tera, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 06:21 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Since Chicago has made international news lately for pointing a finger at Guzman (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21462254), it seems worth noting what else is going on in Chicago

"... it's essentially like Chapo Guzman has 100,000 Amway salesmen working for him." (says Jack Riley, special agent in charge of the DEA's Chicago division.)
http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2013/02/22/drug-arrests-drop-in-chicago-but-still-snare-thousands-in-black-neighborhoods

Last week officials sent the latest message that their chief targets are major drug operators—and not the guys on the corner—when the Chicago Crime Commission and DEA named Mexican drug cartel leader Joaquín Guzmán Loera "public enemy number one." Nicknamed El Chapo, or Shorty, Guzman leads the Sinaloa cartel, which the DEA believes is responsible for 80 percent of the heroin and cocaine in Chicago.

As intended, the declaration made international news. But the situation it highlights is a little more complex than the headlines suggested.

Guzman and Sinaloa don't actually peddle drugs on Chicago's streets. Officials say low-level cartel affiliates, or groups who buy from them, smuggle their products to the city or nearby suburbs. From there the goods are sold to street gangs.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

there have been rumors going around in the news that el chapo was killed in a gun battle

http://www.forbes.com/sites/doliaestevez/2013/02/22/was-mexican-billionaire-drug-kingpin-el-chapo-guzman-killed/

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link


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