Major superheroes/villains who died and have stayed dead - are there any?

Man i need to stay away from the MU

it was written by Peter David so it's actually been pretty entertaining

Trust Dan. He knows things.

haha oh man, are you up to date with what's going in in X-Factor right now because that phrase is currently an automatic YIKES

(btw if anyone is considering looking at X titles these days, most of the gold is in the periphery, particularly X-Factor)

Really enjoyed his second run on X-Factor, then lost track of it around 2009 when they were changing artist every month. Worth catching up?

well... yes and no

If you like the characters, it's absolutely worth it; I don't think anyone does team dynamics quite like PAD and he does an excellent job of juggling a large cast of very distinct, memorable personalities.

Having said that, some of the actual plots can get eye-rolly, but the actual character work within them is always excellent, plus he does a great job of interweaving stories and following through on consequences/ramifications.

I also recommend these X-titles:

New Mutants (again, mostly for the characters)
Wolverine and the X-Men (I love Bachalo's incomprehensibility, and a lot of the writing is genuinely funny)
X-Men Legacy (TEAM ROGUE, plus Frenzy is turning into an interesting character)
Uncanny X-Force (now that the book has direction and a smaller, more focused cast, the stories they've been telling have been outstanding, particularly the build over the first 19 issues)

There are other characters who are obviously writer faves and whenever they pop up as featured players in a story, they are great 90% of the time (Magik and Colossus are the reasons to read Uncanny X-Men, for example, and Pixie is basically great wherever she appears even if none of the artists can agree on how old she is).

I know she's somewhere between 8 and 24, but I've never been able to narrow it down any more than that.

is layla miller still around?

She is, and she still knows stuff, but she's becoming less cryptic about it and it's kind of a big unhappy mess for all of the characters involved (but not the readers, fortunately)

I'm not caught up yet with X-Factor. Probably a year behind.

The Madrox mini that predates this version of X-Factor is one of the best Marvel books in the past decade.

i'm also a year or so behind on X-Factor. i kinda got off-board when they did that weird time-travel sickly old Dr Doom storyline which was pretty bleh imho.

Dan is all this stuff up on MARVEL PRIME or whatever the hell their online archives are?
I swear I would have bought that four times over if it worked with ipad

a lot of it is. You can browse MDCU. You should be able to browse what's available here: http://marvel.com/digital_comics

If you have any specific questions I'm happy to check through my subscription.

There is some doofer that lets you watch your desktop on the iPad. Maybe that would work. Hassle, though.

They're usually about 12-14 months behind. So Uncanny X-Force is available through issue #8. X-Factor has 80 issues, up through #227 that came out last November.

Once the next Mac OS comes out I'll be able to mirror my desktop on my tv. I can't wait to read GIANT SIZED X-MEN.

xp to chuck: yeah, onlive might work.

I'm also at least a year behind at this point, which turns out to be a monumental problem with this many titles...and my poor neglected x-blog too! Someday! Someday!

I was enjoying PAD's nu-X-Factor for quite a long time, feel like it really started to drift plotwise at some point though. New Mutants I was LOVING, and not just because that cast was all my childhood friends..

X-Factor is the only Marvel I read--consistently entertaining and clever stuff, though occasionally the ideas don't quite come off.

I know this is a shot in the dark but some of you are on the train, what do you think about the current Avengers vs. X-Men storyline going on?

I went in expecting it to be total rub and it still might be, but there have been some things that could be interesting depending on how it plays out especially the whole parts with the Kree and Iron Fist, which seem to be tacking into some of the waters that Hickman has been laying out in FF and in SHIELD. It is still kind of a disjointed read, but I am curious where it is going or at least how those threads play out. The team that Cap sent out into space is one of the odder and really more interesting Avengers teams in a long time. In a Marvel way, kind of reminds me of the Animal-man/Starfire/Adam Strange/Lobo story arc from 52.

Man, I would actually like to see Marvel just bite the bullet and do one of these things as a totally integrated series like 52.

I'll read them in a year when they hit MDCU. Who is on the crazy Avengers space team?

Thor
Hank McCoy (The Beast)
Captain Britain
Ms. Marvel
The Protector (aka Marvel Boy)
Rhodey (War Machine)
Brunhilda the Valkrie

okay, that's pretty crazy.

Oh. Took me a second to realize that wasn't a list of deceased characters. I thought Marvel had been a lot busier in the past year than I realized.

Well technically, Thor did just recently get over dying and Tony Stark has just faked Rhodey's death in the Iron Man current storyline.

So, apparently Nightcrawler is still dead? Pretty surprised no one has resurrected him yet.

And Xavier is dead too, now; I wonder if that's gonna stick? On the one hand, he's a pretty major character, and he has died and been resurrected before, hasn't he? But on the other hand, they seem to have moved the Xavier/Magneto conflict to be between Cyclops (and his crew) and Wolverine/Kitty (and the X-school) now, so maybe they feel Xavier isn't needed anymore?

Well, Bing's front page spoiled the big Batman ending (X dies). Thanks!

Well, according to Uncanny Avengers, Xavier's brain is currently grafted on to a version of the Red Skull, so he's certainly not coming back in that body

tuomas, if kitty is the only character i have any interest in reading about, what comix is she appearing in atm?

more people than tuomas know that! she's in wolverine & the x-men as a lead teacher and will be in the new adjective-less X-Men

As discussed in the other thread, seems like Captain Marvel is the only answer to this question that will not change... Mostly because everyone agrees it would be in bad taste to bring back a character who died of cancer.

Dibny came back in the interregnum of posting on this thread btw, albeit rebooted.

Which Dibny? Or both of them?

Both.

wut

Gail Simone brought them back as part of Secret Six in the Rebirthiverse (and it's been a long time since I typed that).

Ralph was undercover as a mob heavy, Sue turned up in about #8 after Ralph had broken cover and was moping about being away from her.