Major superheroes/villains who died and have stayed dead - are there any?

X-Factor is the only Marvel I read--consistently entertaining and clever stuff, though occasionally the ideas don't quite come off.

I know this is a shot in the dark but some of you are on the train, what do you think about the current Avengers vs. X-Men storyline going on?

I went in expecting it to be total rub and it still might be, but there have been some things that could be interesting depending on how it plays out especially the whole parts with the Kree and Iron Fist, which seem to be tacking into some of the waters that Hickman has been laying out in FF and in SHIELD. It is still kind of a disjointed read, but I am curious where it is going or at least how those threads play out. The team that Cap sent out into space is one of the odder and really more interesting Avengers teams in a long time. In a Marvel way, kind of reminds me of the Animal-man/Starfire/Adam Strange/Lobo story arc from 52.

Man, I would actually like to see Marvel just bite the bullet and do one of these things as a totally integrated series like 52.

I'll read them in a year when they hit MDCU. Who is on the crazy Avengers space team?

Thor
Hank McCoy (The Beast)
Captain Britain
Ms. Marvel
The Protector (aka Marvel Boy)
Rhodey (War Machine)
Brunhilda the Valkrie

okay, that's pretty crazy.

Oh. Took me a second to realize that wasn't a list of deceased characters. I thought Marvel had been a lot busier in the past year than I realized.

Well technically, Thor did just recently get over dying and Tony Stark has just faked Rhodey's death in the Iron Man current storyline.

So, apparently Nightcrawler is still dead? Pretty surprised no one has resurrected him yet.

And Xavier is dead too, now; I wonder if that's gonna stick? On the one hand, he's a pretty major character, and he has died and been resurrected before, hasn't he? But on the other hand, they seem to have moved the Xavier/Magneto conflict to be between Cyclops (and his crew) and Wolverine/Kitty (and the X-school) now, so maybe they feel Xavier isn't needed anymore?

Well, Bing's front page spoiled the big Batman ending (X dies). Thanks!

Well, according to Uncanny Avengers, Xavier's brain is currently grafted on to a version of the Red Skull, so he's certainly not coming back in that body

tuomas, if kitty is the only character i have any interest in reading about, what comix is she appearing in atm?

more people than tuomas know that! she's in wolverine & the x-men as a lead teacher and will be in the new adjective-less X-Men

As discussed in the other thread, seems like Captain Marvel is the only answer to this question that will not change... Mostly because everyone agrees it would be in bad taste to bring back a character who died of cancer.

Dibny came back in the interregnum of posting on this thread btw, albeit rebooted.

Which Dibny? Or both of them?

Both.

wut

Gail Simone brought them back as part of Secret Six in the Rebirthiverse (and it's been a long time since I typed that).

Ralph was undercover as a mob heavy, Sue turned up in about #8 after Ralph had broken cover and was moping about being away from her.