New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

I mean "attached" as in they solder it to the logic board

rip it off

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook-Pro-with-Retina-Display-Teardown/9462/1#.T9oARbVYuRK

Basically, they're manufacturing the logic boards with the memory attached, same as the disk controllers and all that stuff

not without my solder

is that good? i thought that was bad!

ya why is that a feature

idk, memory connectors and blah blah space inside laptop who knows

:|

I've had bad memory fuck up a computer before. So if you get bad memory here, instead of simple swap you've got to have major parts replaced - do not like.

kind of thinking that they ran the stats on how often memory fails versus logic board versus the amount of time troubleshooting user-installed memory or issues with removable memory

I think you're most getting fucked on ability to add memory, not on anything else

the memory is not a big deal to me the way the SSD pricing is

i've had my logic board replaced twice in 2 months

their logic boards time me up and replace me

what do you ppl do to your computers

what do you ppl do to your computers

Speaking only for myself, it's my primary source of income - I'm on it at least 7-8 hours a day coding, then at home it's a television, recording studio, movie theater, etc. etc. It's been to three continents and who knows how many plane, bus, taxi trips.

i just never seem to have hardware problems with my computers

maybe it does have something to do with how much you move them around/fiddle with them? this imac is basically stationary and i only interact with it to turn it off or to plug in/unplug the headphones. i did move around my old macbook a bit but that was mostly around the house, around campus, or to and from places on campus or to and from home when it was in the car

the only thing that's been done to this imac as far as i know was a ram upgrade

it depends how often you put it in your backpack w/o a protective shell, and in my particular case how often you fall asleep with it in bed and then throw off the covers when you wake up, flinging it across the room.

lol my powerbook circa 2002 had a nice dent in the side and the hard drive died kind of early due to that sort of thing

lucky for me i've only destroyed the ODD, cracked the bezel in half and bent the case all out of shape

it's still running fine though

before there were sudden motion sensors, my laptop hard drives never lasted over two years at most

you need an ipad if you're bedputing

^^ otm, iPad takes bedternet use to a new level

i got an ipad but i gave it to my dad when his laptop died

ipads for everyone

ipads for ourdads

Ducked out to the Apple store for lunch and got to spend some time with the MBP Retina. Some early thoughts:

- Fit and finish on this is outstanding. Pick it up by the corner and NOTHING flexes - even the display stays stable without a single creak. The whole thing feels like it was forged out of one piece of metal.
- It's noticeably lighter than the MBP Classic but I didn't have the "whoa this doesn't weight anything" reaction as I did with the MB Airs.
- It's fast. At least it seems to be. OS X 10.8 will probably have better-optimized code though.
- The display... Well it's like this: Remember when you saw a BluRay DVD on a properly configured 1080p television with the proper HDMI cables? That's the level of detail that you're looking at. There's so much detail that Photoshop jockeys will need twice the time to finish a job because every single slightest imperfection in any photo will now be obvious. Text looks like it's been letter-pressed printed on the screen. As my now-47-year-old eyes age further, I don't believe I could go back to a lower-resolution screen (or really anything that doesn't offer resolution-independence).
- Regardless of what Apple says, the display is just as glarey as the current MBAs. The fluorescent lighting in Apple's stores isn't helping and the typical lighting conditions in your average non-ergonomic office won't help either. Somewhere the ghost of Steve Jobs is berating everyone with a "why are you degrading the most beautiful computer ever made with an office that looks like total shit?"

Forgot to mention, expect all new rounds of "what is the best monospace font for programming/what is the best browser font for reading?" wars once these get out there.

no matte retina?

no matte retina?

Nope.

which apple store?

it's ok you can diy a matte screen by rubbing a pumice stone on the display

pro tip

cheers for the impressions elvis. did you get a chance to do any scrolling and workspace swiping? on the retina ipad you can get a weird seasick feeling from the laggy screen refresh thingo.

the ret-egg

ok i thought the lag only applied to diablo iii not pinch to zoom!!

i still can't quite wrap my head around how web graphics will behave. presumably once somebody picks up one of these things, suddenly all the pictures on the internet will look twice as small, yet the text size will stay the same..

which apple store?

Glendale Galleria. (pro tip: the Brazilian restaurant in the food court is a great place to get an inexpensive lunch!)

cheers for the impressions elvis. did you get a chance to do any scrolling and workspace swiping? on the retina ipad you can get a weird seasick feeling from the laggy screen refresh thing.

Yes I did (even though I never use Spaces/virtual desktops). No lag at all.

oh that was ipad, my bad

cheers elvis, surprising but good

i still can't quite wrap my head around how web graphics will behave.

i started to write an explanation before realizing i don't know, either.

the display presents to applications as 1440x900, which is why images won't look tiny (confirmed by screenshots of web pages that look normal.) but OS subsystems like text and icon rendering are exempt from this, so you get crisp text and jeweller's loupe-quality icons.

games can see the actual resolution ... presumably something special happens if you're not in windowed mode?

but then does that mean lightroom will have to take over the whole display to show super-hires photos? (i'm sure the answer is "no", but i don't know how.)

The scaling is at the application framework level, not at the video driver level. So you can have all the menu bars, icons, and trappings of your UI be pretending it's half the resolution but have image editors, etc. all know what is really going on.

It makes sense that OpenGL and other game-related frameworks would get a direct view because they're doing app->opengl api->OS->hardware rather than app->apple gui api->OS->hardware

so the real question is what's it like running a fullscreen terminal on this thing

it just shows up as matrix code and keanu pops out

One seemingly minor thing that's important, the two Thunderbolt ports on the MBPR are two-independent channels and aren't shared. It's a big deal if you have a D/A converter on one and a hard drive/RAID on the other.

keanu poops out at 2880x1800

the display presents to applications as 1440x900, which is why images won't look tiny (confirmed by screenshots of web pages that look normal.)

Images on web pages that are too large for the screen either require scrolling or are shrunken to fit the screen (depending on how your browser is configuered). Will a RetMBP take advantage of its screen to display these images at full res?

it depends on the browser, but Safari does, yes.