Why do white people criticize one another for being white?

my dad played this one cd of jimmy bruno all the time when i was a kid

it was good iirc!

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/68761170/The+Jimmy+Bruno+Trio+50614273.jpg

that's the kind of white ppl i can support

otm

i took my dad to see jimmy once. he liked him. my dad was nuts for jazz guitar. jazz anything, but he loved guitar players. i didn't always appreciate it as much when i was a kid. he would drag me along to a tal farlow or barney kessel gig and i didn't always get it. the finesse. the style. horns and drums i got. in a way, horn players and drummers were more like rockers to me than the guitarists. and i was a rockhead.

ha, I bought that Jimmy Bruno CD when I was first trying to learn jazz, and I can still remember the first tune. Weirdly, it took me years of practicing and studying jazz guitar formally to realize that I just don't like jazz guitar that much. It was like there was this sound I heard in my head and that I wanted to play, but I couldn't play it, and then one day I realized that it was because that sound wasn't guitar.

Oh yeah and it's on Concord. Concord is all about jazz guitar. I had the Concord Collection of Jazz Guitar on CD, but the only tunes I really liked were a funky Kenny Burrell tune called La Petit Mambo and a sick version of Seven Come Eleven by Joe Pass and Herb Ellis. Those were the weird days when a CD player was still kind of novel and I didn't have enough money to have a ton of CD's so I just had kind of a random handful of albums. I don't exactly miss it, but there was this weird thing where you'd learn an album backwards and forwards that you didn't even like that much, just because it was all you had to listen to.

was just listening to the red norvo trio stuff with mingus and tal farlow the other day. holy shit that stuff is nuts. tal is amazing on those tracks. and was really young. i mean, not NUTS nuts. i mean what they did in three minutes was amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwIdBaUm4kA

I used to be really self-hating white about jazz actually. I think it was probably because the arts high school I went to was like 90% black. So I was really self-conscious about "not playing white" until one day I came up with a theory (that I still think might be true) that a lot of white jazz players who suck actually suck precisely because they try to play "black," i.e. a really reductionist and pretty racist idea of what jazz is, instead of doing what the best black AND white jazz musicians do, which is just hone the shit out of your musicianship, focus really hard on your accents and the nuances of your phrasing, etc.

yeah, work your ass off. that's the best way to go about anything. keep your head down and do your thing.

anyway, Jim Hall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0mGuRM8tBw&feature=related

i really like jim hall. but sometimes all you really need is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOm17yw__6U

i like what tal and barney did in the 50's. with groups. i don't listen to solo jazz guitar much at all. if i listen to a guitar album it would be wes or kenny burrell or some funky 70's shit.

I'm trying to find you a clip of this Kenny Burrell tune called Three Thousand Miles Back Home -- sample bait from the 70s that was also a random thing I had early on. Record is called Stormy Monday Blues iirc.

Meanwhile, I don't like solo jazz guitar either, but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHE6FSeWuLQ

Which led me to this, wow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZDSLQsOmNY&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt61GcUl3J0

nice recovery

and my pal elliot levin.

There was a time when I used to see him playing at practically every gig I went to.