Why do white people criticize one another for being white?

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was just listening to the red norvo trio stuff with mingus and tal farlow the other day. holy shit that stuff is nuts. tal is amazing on those tracks. and was really young. i mean, not NUTS nuts. i mean what they did in three minutes was amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwIdBaUm4kA

scott seward, Friday, 15 June 2012 02:19 (eleven years ago) link

I used to be really self-hating white about jazz actually. I think it was probably because the arts high school I went to was like 90% black. So I was really self-conscious about "not playing white" until one day I came up with a theory (that I still think might be true) that a lot of white jazz players who suck actually suck precisely because they try to play "black," i.e. a really reductionist and pretty racist idea of what jazz is, instead of doing what the best black AND white jazz musicians do, which is just hone the shit out of your musicianship, focus really hard on your accents and the nuances of your phrasing, etc.

eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 15 June 2012 02:24 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, work your ass off. that's the best way to go about anything. keep your head down and do your thing.

scott seward, Friday, 15 June 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

anyway, Jim Hall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0mGuRM8tBw&feature=related

eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 15 June 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

i really like jim hall. but sometimes all you really need is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOm17yw__6U

scott seward, Friday, 15 June 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link

i like what tal and barney did in the 50's. with groups. i don't listen to solo jazz guitar much at all. if i listen to a guitar album it would be wes or kenny burrell or some funky 70's shit.

scott seward, Friday, 15 June 2012 02:37 (eleven years ago) link

I'm trying to find you a clip of this Kenny Burrell tune called Three Thousand Miles Back Home -- sample bait from the 70s that was also a random thing I had early on. Record is called Stormy Monday Blues iirc.

Meanwhile, I don't like solo jazz guitar either, but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHE6FSeWuLQ

eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 15 June 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link

Which led me to this, wow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZDSLQsOmNY&feature=related

eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 15 June 2012 02:42 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt61GcUl3J0

onlydarkness.com, Friday, 15 June 2012 03:09 (eleven years ago) link

nice recovery

contenderizer, Friday, 15 June 2012 05:43 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

and my pal elliot levin.

There was a time when I used to see him playing at practically every gig I went to.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 6 December 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link


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