the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

Delay You Can Believe In

Forward... in a little while

isn't that an OMD single

Hilarious Times headline "US to Stop Deporting Some Immigrants."

Obama is going to deliver so many baby-step goodies in 2016, u guys

Breaking: DHS to Relax Immigration Policy for Youth Illegal Immigrants

wow

Obama is going to deliver so many baby-step goodies in 2016, u guys

nah. what's he going to be running for in 2016?

maybe prez if he loses this time

And as a matter of executive power, officials said, it could be reversed by a future administration's fiat.

wonder if mitt's gonna run on reversal

of course he is

i would imagine so. but it does put him in kind of a spot, though, right? in that the most diplomatic critique to make of this is that it's executive overreach, rather than specifically that non-amnesty work permits for the young are invariably wrong. running on repeal at a time when he's courting hispanic voters would seem to bump him into another category or make an issue out of something that currently sits fairly nebulously & vaguely, on account of the state all of the DREAM-lite legislation's in.

Immigrants have accounted for new business start-ups well over their population percentage in the US. So basically any hate you hear about this is placing racial hatred above economic & patriotic prosperity.

that's what the GOP base wants

sad to read that jose antonio vargas is 31

if you look into this, it's not even that big of a deal

it takes a small subset of children whose parents brought them to america before they had any choice in the matter, and who grew up here culturally and economically, and who are productively participating in our economy and unlike their parents not likely sending most of their $$$ back to mexico, and also paying more than their share of taxes and getting less than their share of social services

and

-- doesn't give them amnesty
-- doesn't give them immunity
-- doesn't give them any new paths toward citizenship

-- just gives FIVE PERCENT of illegal immigrants about two years to get work permits w/o wasting taxpayer money and resources to deport some high school and college students who are basically not really at fault

A Study in Contrasts

FOX News Latino (there is such a thing?):

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/foxnewslatino-20120615-immigration.jpg

FOX Nation:

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/foxnation-20120615-immigration.jpg

if you look into this, it's not even that big of a deal

it takes a small subset of children whose parents brought them to america before they had any choice in the matter, and who grew up here culturally and economically, and who are productively participating in our economy and unlike their parents not likely sending most of their $$$ back to mexico, and also paying more than their share of taxes and getting less than their share of social services

and

-- doesn't give them amnesty
-- doesn't give them immunity
-- doesn't give them any new paths toward citizenship

-- just gives FIVE PERCENT of illegal immigrants about two years to get work permits w/o wasting taxpayer money and resources to deport some high school and college students who are basically not really at fault

― the late great, Friday, June 15, 2012 5:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that it's something is good, though. it's brutal to see this kinda thing just killed by the fact of congress. dictatorial incremental progress is at least something, even just as a statement of belief in it being necessary.

if you look into this, it's not even that big of a deal

in fariness, this is verbatim the Democratic party's platform

generating more heat than light since 1800

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5hbggQbZl1r858keo1_500.png

Douchecanoe reporter for Tucker Carlon's Daily Caller interrupts president during press conference rather than wait for question time, then tries to get into an argument with him.

cool news story

lol k3v

Update: The Daily Caller tweets they are “proud” of their reporter.

Late Update: Neil Munro says he mistimed his question to Obama.

lol what a choad

it wasn't a mistake, it was a mistime

i'm just saying it's hardly worth the conservative outrage we're seeing

believe me, i support the decision

oh sure yeah I didn't think you were unimpressed or anything, just saying, in the absence of anyone else rolling out banners

it's hardly worth the conservative outrage

It isn't the substance they are "outraged" over, but the symbolism they can attach to it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-picks-john-kerry-to-play-romney-in-mock-debate-rehearsals/2012/06/18/gJQABEctlV_story.html

haha?

I hope they leak some video of it at some point.

I wonder how much Kerry is reading into this. "We tried to get Two-Face from Batman, John, but turns out he's fictional. We do appreciate this."

Two-Face is the purported head of the GOP.

Road Trip Helps Romney Brush Up on Banter
By ASHLEY PARKER

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/19/us/politics/road-trip-helps-romney-brush-up-on-banter.html?hp

The NY Times covers the important issues--Romney on Wawa, delis and getting hoagies.

MSNBC earlier covered Romney pointing at a donut and saying I will have one of those uh things.

"Do you have a hoagie slash grinder slash sub slash foot-long hero, my good man?"

"One gut bomb, sirrah."

"Many thanks for the sandwich. Did i ever tell you I am descended from the Earl of Sandwich? No? Well, here's a ha'penny for your service."

“By the way, where do you get your hoagies here?” he asked. “Do you get them at Wawas? Is that where you get them? No? Do you get them at Sheetz? Where do you get them?”

As the crowd began to boo, shouting out names of neighborhood joints, Gov. Tom Corbett of Pennsylvania tried to help out: “Delis!” he called out. “The delis!”

But after bungling the name of the Wawa several times — calling the store “Wawas” — Mr. Romney forged ahead.

“Ah, you get them at the delis, is that what you’re saying?” he asked. “Well, I went to a place today called Wawas. You ever been to Wawas? Anybody been there?” As the crowd continued to jeer, he added, “I’m sorry, I know there’s a very big state divide.”

I know the CEO of Wawas

and, governor, you are no...

T]he story you’ll be hearing is that Romney’s amazement at the Wawa touch-screen display (made only more vivid by him saying “Wawa’s” when it’s actually just “Wawa”) shows how out-of-touch he is with common folk….
But that’s not what it actually shows. It shows that Mitt Romney is a terrible, terrible candidate.
If he weren’t such a terrible candidate, he would understand…that if you visit a place that ordinary people are likely to visit—a convenience store, for instance—it’s probably not a good idea to later describe what you saw there as though you had just been to the pyramids of Giza or got a secret look at the iPhone 5.

http://prospect.org/article/we-will-forever-remember-wawagate

a terrible candidate who is ahead in some polls

guess the dog thing ran out of steam huh

it lost its bark you might say

It does help to run against a terrible, terrible president

"and I really enjoyed this...what is it called?...seven elevenths."

lol

what year did GHW Bush encounter the checkout scanner, '88 or 92?

'92