is it me or is it a kinda new thing to laud players on how intelligent their play is? xavi, schweini, iniesta, pirlo, modric etc. are most probably better regarded than robben, ribery, rooney, maybe even the whole real attack despite these players being more 'exciting'.
― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, June 18, 2012 8:20 PM (16 minutes ago)
that is a sort of counterintuitive bias that you will find in a lot of football writing that favours players who run games over those that decide them
the worst example of this i've seen is ppl averring that alonso is more important to madrid than ronaldo
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
That demonic trailer for Rooney a minute ago - did they get him all dressed up & posing for about five seconds of film, or is it all cgi or what? How do footballers' schedules work?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
FTW: Would it be too clichéd to suggest that you played as a False number nine when you played?
MC: Actually I was generally used as a right midfielder. I would have preferred to have been a central midfielder but I was never as physical as some players. In fact I think one of the reasons I love Michael Carrick is that if my ability was anywhere near that level, that’s the type of player I’d have been. He’s not the most physical but he reads the game so well. Unfortunately, I was normally shunted out to the right instead.
http://footballthisweekend.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/big-interview-michael-cox-of-zonal.html
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, June 18, 2012 8:43 PM (2 minutes ago)
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
this could end up working out nicely for England
― Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
the angle makes Moyes look like he should be signing this
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
fuck hansen et al apologizing for shay given
he has been fucking dogshit this tournament, ireland might even have had a chance of not being a total embarassment if he didn't concede retarded goals at the beginning of every half
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
he's probably not fully fit but it's his own fault for not saying something
― Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i've read that and if it's true he is a disgrace
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
i'll be charitable and just assume he's too old, his reflexes have gone and he is playing terribly
he's not the best on the ball but spain should still occasionally pass to arbeloa when he's in acres of space out wide level with the penalty area.
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
It's not much of a match but it's still quite gripping. I could see Spain screwing this up yet, there's got to be a chance coming sometime.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
this kind of situation is croatia's best bet
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
Nice trivela cross.
― boxall, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
Gawd, that was it!
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
wow
― mizzell, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
fucking modric that is amazing
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
like to see navas come on, not sure who would come off though, it's usually silva but he's been good
oof, great chance lovely from modric.
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
he's not the best on the ball but spain should still occasionally pass to arbeloa when he's in acres of space out wide level with the penalty area
both him and alba look like they're offering interesting options out wide, but spain seem to be determined to stick with the ineffectual 10m wide attacking line.
saaaave.
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
well he's on but now has no-one to cross too. hm
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
not quite a sitter but rakitic should've scored there
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
spain are there for the taking
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
srna and perisic taking the gareth bale magical go faster stripes to new extremes
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
well he's on but now has no-one to cross to
Yeah that passage with him cutting up & down the touchline and no outball was hopeless
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
they shd play the barcelona midfield three with silva and navas either side of torres
kind of feel xabi is there for political reasons to some extent
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
agreed
― Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
spain haven't got anyone on the pitch likely to score imo. Should get cesc on. I really think croatia will score and tbh spain wouldn't be hard done by.
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
Why not Llorente? I know Cesc has scored once from deep but it's not like having a forward-forward on.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
i just assume torres is the only CF who is going to get any playing time
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
yeah playing both xavi and xabi alonso doesn't even make sense in theory
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
Ireland looking vaguely dangerous
― Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
lol i forgot mata was even in the squad
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
del bosque has fucked up today
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
spain leaving themselves short handed at the back is madness
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
i wouldn't say Italy are holding on exactly but...
― Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
shoot FFS
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
that was pathetic
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
the worst elements of arsenal
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
omg Spain, ffs FFS FFS
― PSOD (Ste), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
actually arsenal aren't usually this bad
So often they do that, get in behind then turn back to ensure possession instead. Busquets' is only the most criminal example.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
not quite sure why spain do high corners into the box when they don't have puyol.
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
Ireland have now fielded all five of their strikers in this game. Some of them even played up front
― Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
i guess i'm not a football sophisticate because this no CF thing isn't my thing*
*unless it's messi
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
D'oh.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
Navas not offside?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
on the other hand they DID walk it in
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
yeah thought he was off
nope
Great, great movement from Iniesta. He did well not turning back there.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
um, surely Navas was "active" there
― Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link