NRO's The Corner 2: Ghost Protocol

Loved Schmitz's post. Great title.

Last line from crazpants' retort: But no reasonable man builds an argument in this way if he seeks reasoned debate, unless of course he is a student of Thrasymachus.

Dude is v silly and unreadable to the point of pain.

Did Gun Control Cause the Holocaust?
By Robert VerBruggen
June 20, 2012 10:57 A.M.
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This idea, recently propounded by Joe the Plumber...

"propounded" is such an odd verb

that's not from an autogenerator?

joepoundsfistontable.jpg

anyone still listening to Joe the Plumber should be super, super embarrassed

Unfortunately he's running for Congress in the district next door to mine so I have to hear about him all the goddamned time. It's a good thing I watch very little broadcast TV during the summer.

oh man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hostess-Rspbry-Zingers.jpg

whoops lol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hostess-Rspbry-Zingers.jpg

http://www.salon.com/2012/06/21/k_lo_the_saddest_hack/

This is The Corner as it was: A bubbling brook of inanity punctuated occasionally by particularly vile or bizarre Jonah Goldberg asking readers to write his column for him, then posting their responses. Ramesh Ponnuru carrying on reasonably intelligent dialogues with non-NR contributors. K-Lo posting one-sentence links to news articles and constantly hyping the godforsaken National Review Cruise. John Derbyshire popping in to be odd, at length. Lopez defending raving anti-semite loon Mel Gibson against the charge that he is as bad as Michael Moore.

(To be fair, most political blogging used to be like this, back then. Ninety percent of the political blogosphere in Bush’s first term was bored asshole lawyers posting pictures of their mountain bikes in between urgent calls for the immediate toppling of Saddam Hussein.)

It’s sort of always been apparent that no one she worked with actually had any respect for her. Her joshing around with Jonah Goldberg, the Corner contributor closest to her emotional and intellectual level, was slightly sad.

ha that mountain bikes bit is great

Touré gets his ass handed to him by conservative drone, sez Michael Walsh. The comments, as usual, are a hoot.

I thought Toure wrote record reviews. So he gave a jokey intro to Harry Potter's cousin and then the guy threw out a bunch of talking points.

conservative victory

Uh maybe Walsh should have come up with another phrase instead of "Toure gets owned".

[Approved commenter] Hope E. Changey
06/27/12 09:03

I stand ready to contribute and work towards a "Schriver For..." any office in the land. This kid's got style, poise, and facts. AND a great smile,unlike the smug little twit who is so deluded he doesn't even KNOW he's been "schooled" bigtime.

TO everything...Toure...Toure...Toure....there is a season: And this isn't yours.

This child is worse than Team Breezy fans.

Harry Potter's cousin made spurious arguments anyway. Why does it matter that kids are moving back in with their parents -- how would it make them more conservative? What if their parents are liberals?

Schriver looks so much like the generic platonic republican image in my head

The only thing worth reading in days. As usua though the definitions don't square with how I understand liberalism and conservatism. Do liberals really look for ideas? Do conservatives accept the world as it is?

I have not been reading that regularly but has that writer ever acknowledged who came up with the mandate idea, and then squared it with the current stances? Has he been making strong constitutional arguments re the alleged unconstitutionality of the mandate?

If confronted and responds in good faith he might say that Orrin Hatch et al were wrong to support this liberal aberration in the nineties (doesn't he say something about getting caught up lib/con schema? I'm not going to read it again).

That's probably right. I think Republicans when confronted re economics from Reagan through the Bushes like to say that anything that went wrong was due to aberrations (plus blaming Freddie Mac) from true purist conservatism.

isn't it held up as an example of the bad ideas you come up with while trying to find common ground with the evil dems?

That too.

But it does so at a significant political cost. First, those who dislike the mandate — which includes a majority of U.S. voters — will now have no recourse but to vote for Mitt Romney to repeal it.

Yes, keep telling yourself that.

guys, this is how they win elections! Say BLACK is WHITE over and over until their message gets repeated by media.

Russ Davis 06/28/12 11:07
I wish you were right and hope so, but whoda thunk it that Roberts would vote to uphold & Kennedy strike it! If that can happen, this is a Bizarro world where anything can happen, as Dostoyevsky said about any country that abandons the true God, which of course papists like Roberts have done, even though in this case the others weren't presently affected.

as Dostoyevsky said about any country that abandons the true God, which of course papists like Roberts have done

O_o

I wonder if Russ is going to call Klo a papist to her face on the NRO cruise...

papists!!!

Kathryn Jean Lopez ‏@kathrynlopez
.@AndrewBreitbart would be on @PiersTonight somewhat inexplicably tonight, as would happen on long news days ‪#missthatfriend‬

#missthatintolerablecokeheadfuck

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/304385/liberal-coup-artur-davis

kind of a shitbag, this guy

It is not news that most liberals regard the courts as a bulwark against public opinion, and that they celebrate the judiciary’s capacity to detach itself from the mainstream. What is more striking is the evolving liberal ideal that the overall political process need not and should not mimic popular sentiment either. Why bother, when reputation-sensitive elites can be persuaded without relying on a ballot — simply by invoking their desire to align with “history” and their skittishness about following the “uninformed”?

invoking their desire to align with “history” and their skittishness about following the “uninformed”
invoking their desire to align with “history” and their skittishness about following the “uninformed”
invoking their desire to align with “history” and their skittishness about following the “uninformed”

http://i.imgur.com/4kQNT.png

Gay marriage furthers the disconnection of marriage from procreation; it helps in an ongoing way to sever the link between sex and diapers.

Boozhwa 07/01/12 15:09
Interesting that be phrased it that way. Progressivism methodically combines elements of mob rule and dictatorship -- the two things the Founders most wanted to avoid.
Of course, Obama doesn't mind majoritarian rule when it empowers him and his cronies. Even if he has to usurp the people's liberties.

sever the link between sex and diapers.

more like diapers sever the sex link between....oh nevermind

what an asshole liar

https://twitter.com/andrewcmccarthy/status/219117899867095040

more on A. McCarthy's lie

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/07/obama-and-romney-are-both-raising-money-americans-overseas

Obama will spend the Fourth, his daughter Malia's birthday, throwing a party on the White House lawn for military families.

And yet, more than 48 hours later, it's still up without any correction. At least, no correction that I can see. Surely National Review can at least bring itself to post simple corrections to simple factual errors?

In any case, if you're curious about where this comes from, check out Tim's piece. In a nutshell, both the Obama campaign and the Romney campaign hold fundraisers overseas because lots of Americans live overseas. The Obama campaign is hosting events in Paris and Geneva, while the Romney campaign is hosting events in Hong Kong and London. All kosher, all above board. Nothing to get in a tizzy about.

it is my fervent wish that michael walsh reacts to gawker today

It is my fervent wish that Michael Walsh get run over by an 18-wheeler.

is that a Christian sentiment

http://gawker.com/5923268/beez-in-the-capitation-how-nicki-minaj-and-john-roberts-are-both-constructionists-at-heart

motm

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/304658/post-colonial-killing-fields-conrad-black

It is an ever-growing matter of suspense how long it will take before there is general recognition of the fact that, although the spread of democracy is — next to its irreplaceable contribution to victory in World War II and the Cold War — America’s greatest bequest to the world, most of the world worked better in colonial times. No one could seriously dispute that almost all of sub-Saharan Africa, all of North Africa except Morocco, all of the Middle East except Israel and Jordan and most of the oil-rich states, and the entire former British Indian Empire were better governed by Europeans. The Philippines and Cuba and, during the piping days of the U.S. Marines’ occupations (even if they were deployed at times by the United Fruit Company), Nicaragua, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic were all better off under the Americans.

haha i c/p'd that without reading the whole essay which is quite a doozy

The colonists had the better of the argument with the British, but individual Americans did not have substantively more liberties at the end of the Revolution than they had had at the beginning, nor more than the British in the home islands had (then or now or at any time in between), apart from having a resident sovereign government. The whole American notion of liberty came from the British, along with the common law and the English language. If the Americans had maintained their British status, they would control Britain and Canada and Australia and New Zealand now (another 120 million people and over $5 trillion of GDP), have all their energy needs met, and enjoy better government than they have actually endured for the past 20 years. It would have been much easier to abolish slavery and, if there had been a Civil War, it would not have lasted long, nor cost a fraction of the 750,000 American lives that it did. There would have been no World Wars or Cold War, or at least no conflict remotely as perilous as those were. The United States would also have less than its current 25 percent of the world’s incarcerated people, and wouldn’t have a legal cartel that devours 10 percent of its GDP. These are matters that, though they verge on secular heresy, Americans may want to consider, in between singing splendid anthems and rereading Jefferson’s defamation of poor old George III and his blood libel on the American Indian in the Declaration of Independence, this national holiday.

"the piping days" gtfo

that's I was doing yesterday afternoon alright: reading Jefferson’s defamation of poor old George III