The RIAA Armageddon has begun

"People will happily hire a Timbaland for 10K a song (I'm picking him b/c I know his price); but for 10K in an analog studio you can do So Much."

this is key. and also has to do with not caring. in a way.

Most of these guys existed at all only because there was such a thing as steady, paying studio work.

Not just that: they probably went to public schools with well-funded (or just plain funded) music programs. Such programs are few and far between, and are always first on the chopping block when municipalities make budget cuts.

Meanwhile it's all washed up on Sullivan's shores:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/06/who-pays-for-music-ctd.html

That link and this one are pretty much mostly responses and arguments so you're warned:

http://www.facebook.com/TheDishBlog/posts/410451945664597

ha: http://www.theonion.com/articles/kid-rock-starves-to-death,342/

linked from the FB comments

People will happily hire a Timbaland for 10K a song (I'm picking him b/c I know his price)

um i hope you haven't hired him or you're gonna be pretty upset when the bill is ~20 times what you expected

i want frogbs tempbanned just for consistently pulling this thread off the trail of interesting/productive discussion about as much as i ever wanted him tempbanned for making creepy racial comments

believe it or not there's a button you can hit so you don't look like a bitch in public, nobody gives a shit if you don't find that discussion interesting

if you know about the button why do you always look like a bitch

I don't know where you got that 200K/song figure some dude-- although I wouldn't be surprised-- I based my figure on the cost per track of Nelly Furtado's "Loose" (2006) and at the time thought "huh that's cheaper than I would've thought"

he probably charges a lower rate per track when doing a whole album but 10k would still be really low for him even in that case. guys in the Timbaland/Dr. Luke class of hitmaker are generally known for charging six figures per song.

if money were no object I would offer a briefcase full of million dollar bills for a peak era timbaland song of my own

q: if Internet were available freely over the air, would that change how much you'd be willing to pay for music stuff? or media in general? feel like I'd be ok with that money usu set aside for broadband going towards my local newspaper's online edition, spotify, other things I usually expect for free when I pay for Internet service

shd say "expect will be free"
feel like the newspaper industry's collapse is an interesting analog for which there is no similar moral highmindedness for using Craigslist instead of classifieds or reading news online for free or what have u

hey some dude & frogbs I flagged both of you for being grown men actually calling each other "bitch" like a couple of stupid fucking children

that's right you heard me I flagged your posts, the stain will be with them forever

hardest of men^^^^

will the RIAA Armageddon spare no one?!

just saying that come the armageddon, our lives are gonna be like this movie so let's be cool w/ each other
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5uo1jET711qixyapo1_1280.jpg

hey that movie is pg-13 I don't know if im allowed to see it, can u just give a (clean) synopsis?

lou ferrigno plays the dude from cracker

whoa easy with the c-word

dude it is so insulting to kids to use the word "children" in a derogatory way
think of the children

not all children are stupid

hey some dude & frogbs I flagged both of you for being grown men actually calling each other "bitch" like a couple of stupid fucking children

― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:15 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

honest apology, man -- "he started it" is no excuse but i was just holding up a mirror for an easy zing, i honestly pretty much never throw around that word as an insult

speaking of armageddon, virus is public domain and in full on youtube so sleep easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vBAwc23sD8

i don't know about threads though...couldn't resist watching that on youtube last week...

now people tailor music for phones and computers. lots of highs and not a lot of lows.

I don't know how much engineers actually do this. Maybe they do! In any case, don't agree that there aren't a lot of lows now. How much low end is there on "Climax" by Usher?

Sometimes I think "smiley face e.q." might be more of a problem? Lots of highs and lows and not much middle.

http://www.prefixmag.com/news/google-to-shut-down-youtube-ripping-sites/66492/

apology accepted & appreciated some dude I apologize for goin in too hard

Meanwhile...

Japan has amended its anti-piracy laws to include penalties of up to two years in prison or a fine of up to 2 million yen (approx £16,000) for illegal downloaders.

smiley face e.q.!

side-face noise rating curve

aero, FP means never having to say you're sorry

ultimately I find it a little irritating that people get racism boners in threads that have fuck all to do with race but ymmv

i only mentioned race in relation to you, because that is what people associate you with on this board now. entirely because of your actions.

if there's a particular comment you have a problem with maybe call it out in the relevant thread, all this bullshit "lets earn brownie points for pointing out bad semantics in a frogs post, otherwise just call him a racist" can't be irritating to just the guy who's constantly under fire

oh i have no problem w/ irritating or ostracizing you, i thought that was obvious.

some dude is awarded 10,000 brownie points for that post^^^

frogbs repels intelligence like a duck repels water and if you call him on it you just get to watch him repel intelligence for 100 more posts. best to ignore imo.

lol you have literally not put together a remotely coherant reponse to any of the points i've brought up here, glass houses man

lol you have literally not put together a remotely coherant reponse to any of the points i've brought up here, glass houses man

c'mon dude

like we literally have hundreds of posts here tearing down bad RIAA logic and now we're calling out posters who try to tear down that exact same logic, albeit in the context of "one of our own", how can you wish for intelligent discussion when the average response I get is "you said it's literally free, DO YOU THINK HARD DRIVES ARE FREE? do MB's just come out of thin air?"

like we literally have hundreds of posts here tearing down bad RIAA logic and now we're calling out posters who try to tear down that exact same logic, albeit in the context of "one of our own", how can you wish for intelligent discussion when the average response I get is "you said it's literally free, DO YOU THINK HARD DRIVES ARE FREE? do MB's just come out of thin air?"

http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2009/2/99%20Oh,%20Russia.%20You%20crazy..jpg

and now we've divolved into pointing out spelling mistakes, bravo Mr. Q

"divolved"

divolution

jesus again with the mispelled words I get it you guys

frogbs when you entered this thread it was like a toddler in a superman costume coming downstairs to bug the adults. i don't say that with malice it's just... exactly what it was like.

sorry if my posting isn't acceptible to you guys, I just don't understand why you are so commited to this

and by adults i mean other people besides me, i'm not including myself in the "adult" party.

lol at him just spelling things wrong on purpose now

http://c1355372.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/4503c793-0b07-4f89-9cae-1169f8731c4b/crazy%20hungry%20man.jpg

sorry if my posting isn't acceptible to you guys, I just don't understand why you are so commited to this