the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

I actually have commie friends who do that but I don't have the stomach for it

will there be arts funding post-apocalypse, or still just Kickstarter?

kickstarter actually involves kicking post-apocalypse

here's another example

GOP would just eliminate the EPA altogether, if they had their way.

and O let some major pollutant reg lapse, didn't he?

they did, and that was wrong. however, there is a real, quantitative difference between weak regulations and NO regulations.

EPA needs a massive overhaul because they seem to be a bunch of bought out sumbitches on their own but it's better to have it *something* than nothing at all as Shakey said

they did, and that was wrong. however, there is a real, quantitative difference between weak regulations and NO regulations.

gah yes and it's exactly what you immediately hop down my throat about! one's terrible and the other's just awful!

ok so it's the Daily Show and i know i know but still, from last week: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-june-14-2012/a-simple-plot?xrs=share_copy

one's terrible and the other's just awful!

"So just be glad they're awful"

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woody's a good icon for the "yes i'll vote democrat and help other people but i don't have to like it" grumpy old man block

at least Alvy had Adlai to support.

I prefer to emphasize his "Impeach (Every President)" button collection

why don't you get william f buckley to kill the spider

ALVY
I ... interestingly had, uh, dated ...
a woman in the Eisenhower Administration
... briefly ... and, uh, it was ironic to
me 'cause, uh . . . tsch . . . 'cause I
was trying to, u-u-uh, do to her what
Eisenhower has been doing to the country
for the last eight years.

the idea that neither party matters when there's an apocalypse is simply not true. one party put forward the "cash for clunkers" initiative, something that will pay dividends after the apocalypse for some

Wasn't sure if you were joking here since Cash For Clunkers ended up not being nearly as effective as folks were hoping.

they say that now, but they'll be singing a different tune once Lord Humongous figures out what his scrap yard is worth once the nuclear winter clears.

O should really hammer away at this imho

if only Romney's time at Bain wasn't politically out of bounds

During the nearly 15 years that Romney was actively involved in running Bain, a private equity firm that he founded, it owned companies that were pioneers in the practice of shipping work from the United States to overseas call centers and factories making computer components, according to filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission

But Romney didn't personally ship the jobs overseas, it was just companies that Bain owned.

I see his campaign would not really respond to the Post's questions. Surprise surprise

black Politico writer suspended for calling Romney "white folks"

thats retarded. you could call him a cracker ass cracker and it wouldnt offend me.. because its true

olitico suspended its White House correspondent late Thursday night for suggesting that Mitt Romney is more comfortable around white people than minorities, a comment that quickly drew the ire of conservatives.

Romney is more comfortable around toasters than people

Alfred OTM that Politico's writing is terrible but just... I can't even

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the horrible ethnic slur "white folks"

it evokes such painful associations

no one is actually complaining about this because they think the term "white folks" is offensive, right? this is all because dude flat-out called Romney a racist

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I hope that Politico writer has learned his lesson from all this criticism. He took a bad misstep when he called out Romney for only being comfy with other white folks, when the real determiner isn't the whiteness of his soulmates, but their wealth and insular smugness. Romney is def very stiff and uncomfortable around working class white folks.

fuck politico

what the fuck

"Romney is very, very comfortable, it seems, with people who are like him," Joe Williams said during an appearance on MSNBC. "That's one of the reasons why he seems so stiff and awkward in town hall meetings, why he can't relate to people other than that. But when he comes on Fox and Friends, they're like him. They're white folks who are very much relaxed in their own company."

Politico journalists have a clear and inflexible responsibility to cover politics fairly and free of partisan bias. This expectation extends to all of the public platforms in which we and our reporting and analysis appears, including cable TV and social media platforms like Twitter.

Regrettably, an unacceptable number of Joe Williams’s public statements on cable and Twitter have called into question his commitment to this responsibility. His comment about Governor Romney earlier today on MSNBC fell short of our standards for fairness and judgment in an especially unfortunate way.

Joe has acknowledged that his appearance reflected a poor choice of words. This appearance came in the context of other remarks on Twitter that, cumulatively, require us to make clear that our standards are serious, and so are the consequences for disregarding them. This is true for all Politico journalists, including an experienced and well-respected voice like Joe Williams.

Following discussion of this matter with editors, Joe has been suspended while we review the matter.

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i don't know, Dan, it really reads like he got fired for describing white people as white.

remember the rules, everybody

Politico journalists have a clear and inflexible responsibility to cover politics fairly and free of partisan bias

Please fire all of the staff then as they never hide their bias very well

okay maybe it's just me but I wouldn't say that about anyone unless I clearly intended to signal that I think the person I'm talking about is a gigantic racist

which, you know, if Romney is a racist, that would be a fact and not something you should lose your job over for mentioning

i mean, i think you're right, that he was at the very least saying that race plays a major role in the construction of a Republican audience, particularly as mediated by foxnews, which, as you said, is just a fact. but it seems really weird to say he apologized for his "poor choice of words"--what can that mean but the phrase "white folks"? are they not white folks or what?

but it seems really weird to say he apologized for his "poor choice of words"--what can that mean but the phrase "white folks"? are they not white folks or what?

sorry but this is some nro-level obtuseness. 'he was just trying to describe his coloring! nothing else!' obv there's subtext here. (nb i don't think it's subtext that should cost him his job)

okay. i'm not saying that that's actually why conservatives are mad at him. i'm basically saying that politico doesn't have a leg to stand on here.

I just wonder why Politico particularly cares that political pundits are complaining about them

tbh i kinda feel like if you work for politico, u gotta realize that they're not exactly ethical paradigms. their guiding philosophy seems to be insider access, so if you compromise that for any reason, you're probably deadweight. whether it's fair or not.

it's so frustrating that the fact that racism is at the core of what republicans are about in 2012 can't even be very mildly named without someone getting fired. i mean, i guess politico just sucks, but honestly.

I think you might be underselling hating women / the gays.

I think both you might be underselling hating the non-rich.

Gawker vs. Politico

http://gawker.com/5914657/dont-read-politico-urge-politico-editors#13403971310684

OH SO WE'RE ONLY WRITING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO ASSESSING A CANDIDATE'S READINESS FOR OFFICE, ARE WE NOW, POLITICO?

I lol'd

white men: ready since 1492

so wait Politico hires hacks? Buy me a drink and call me Susan.

just when I was getting used to calling you surely

this is hilarious:

"This is really significant because throughout this campaign Romney has suggested that the experience that he's had in business gives him special insights into the economy and that would translate into jobs and growth and benefits to the American worker," Axelrod said. "This article speaks more to the kind of experience he has, the kind of insights he may have drawn from that experience. And it goes to the fundamental question of whether that is the experience that we need in the Oval Office. Do we need the philosophy that embraces outsourcing and offshoring as a positive tool in our economy?"

In response, the Romney campaign is drawing a distinction between "outsourcing," which can include moving jobs from one domestic firm to another, and "offshoring" jobs to another country.

"This is a fundamentally flawed story that does not differentiate between domestic outsourcing versus offshoring nor versus work done overseas to support U.S. exports," Romney spokesperson Andrea Saul said in a statement. "Mitt Romney spent 25 years in the real world economy so he understands why jobs come and they go. As president, he will implement policies that make it easier and more attractive for companies to create jobs here at home. President Obama's attacks on profit and job creators make it less attractive to create jobs in the U.S."

Obama hasn't done anything re offshoring and has no plans to, either. which is why Axelrod's comments elicit nothing but a cynical "oh, it's campaign time" shrug from me (and should elicit same in anyone w/ a brain). which makes it doubly rich that Romney's people are using it as yet another specious example of Obama's alleged attacks on "profit and job creators."