forgot Henderson was there, kinda makes Milner's ever-presence even weirder
― Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
(xxp) You mean someone other than Roy Hodgson thinks Ashley Young has played well?
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
By the way, I missed the start of Ukraine game, did Rooney sing the national anthem?
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
He sung Ukraine's.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
That would be more acceptable in Croxteth than God Save the Queen
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJTnszMPLXQ
― Chris, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
rooney did sing it, having not sung it when he was in the stands. i was looking forward to a good 'they should all sing it!' thing but ah well.
― Chris, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link
rooney did sing it
Traitor
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
Fair play to Shearer butting in there, Lee Dixon wasn't actually saying anything.
― onimo, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
rmde at the sudden lockstep from downplaying england to IN IT TO WIN IT ITALY ARE NOTHING TO WRITE HOME ABOUT
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
Milner completes 9 passes in 69' versus Ukraine
whereas in Italy, for example, Milner might already have been granted a reverential nickname like "the Woodlouse" or "the Marching Gnome" or "Tiny Soldier-Legs".
― boxall, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
did Rooney sing the national anthem?
Is this a thing? I noticed he sang it and was disappointed because I'm fairly sure he never used to. I also noticed G Nev singing it for the first match and he definitely never used to sing it. Has there been some kind of pressure from above / tabloid storm?
― Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
for real though, there's no way Parker lasts 120 minutes if it comes to that
You ever get smacked by a ball at high speed 500 times a night? Starts to sting after a while.
― onimo, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
Jubilee. New team spirit. English manager. We're all in this together. etc etc etc
― pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
srs qn
how can u care about probably the best paid squad in the competition (them or spain i guess) p much being outplayed for 80+% of the time so far and being the only side other than greece or ireland who can't play even a rudimentary possession game and being full or srsly despicable players?
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
Apparently Hodgson wanted his lads to sing the Nat. Anthem, gawd bless you, ma'am.(XP)
You forgot, BALOTELLI IS THE ONLY ONE WHO PLAYS IN ENGLAND THEREFORE HE IS THE DANGER MAN
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
Which are they: full or seriously despicable? (xp)
― Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
It wasn't composed with sport in mind, I'd feel half-defeated by the end of that dirge. And yet you'd think the eastern ones would create armies of ultramotivated supermen.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
lampard not there so seriously full ruled out
― pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
You appear to be confusing football with rational thought.
― Matt DC, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
I'm struggling to care as much as I did in 2004 though. Probably missing the Sweden game has had some impact there.
― Matt DC, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not missing the Sweden game that much.
― Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
Jonathan Wilson @jonawilsJust seen Carlos Bianchi prop up a sleeping man as he slid off chair then gesticulate derisively at him as he wondered whether to wake him
Jonathan Wilson @jonawilsGiven how much he looks like Larry Davud, that was pretty much a five-minute live show of Curb.
― boxall, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
http://ballsybanter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/ibrahimovic1.jpg
Missing this dude already ;_;
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
at a certain point a team just gets so graceless and vile that rational thought has to kick in
like at the last world cup when a holland side no more thuggish and considerably more skilful and with probably slightly fewer total cunts got to the final, ppl like cruijff were saying that it would be a travesty for that side to win
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
sweden game was cracking. they didn't play well either though, they can't control a game for the life of them.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
i mean england didn't play well in it, and were even worse against ukraine. i sort of agree with nakh in that people seem to overlook what actually happened v ukraine. they had about two chances and scored the shittest goal of the competition, and conceded a goal that wasn't awarded.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
welbecks goal was fantastic, p much the only player and moment that might charm neutral viewers abt this england side
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link
That's because the Dutch national team has a tradition of playing cultured football, we're talking about England here
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
England aren't particularly thuggish on the pitch, not in that kick-in-the-chest De Jong/Van Bommell way. They were dicks in the final (and hey it nearly worked for them).
There are maybe three out-and-out cunts in the team (Terry-Rooney-Gerrard), the rest of them are either kinda anonymous or slightly overblown pantomime villains like Ashley Cole.
They are useless at controlling a game but, I dunno, they score goals and they're still in the tournament when a lot of so-called technically superior teams aren't.
― Matt DC, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
have hodgson/the fa seriously put pressure on the players to sing it?
don't give a fuck if england win this or not. i don't know what's worse, the "we should be winning every tournament we enter" shite that preceded hodgson, or this new "we're the underdogs and it's a fucking miracle we got out of the group" bollocks.
― Chris, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
Hodgson asked them. He's a nice chap.
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
a big factor in their favour is hodgson hasn't had enough time to have any build up of begrudgery/frustration. they should prob appoint a new boss a few weeks before every major tournament.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
that is a fair observation tom but even if successful england sides - 1966, 1990 (kinda) - didnt play tiki taka, they still had awesome players lile charlton or gascoigne, barnes, greaves (as a sub), banks, shilton etc
they also had ppl like bobby moore who is as great a contrast with terry as de jong was from neeskens
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
Mick McCarthy had all the players (and himself) learn the anthem phonetically when he took over as Ireland manager
― Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
greaves (as a sub)
The parentheses speaks volumes. But no use bellyaching over it I suppose, Geoff Hurst did score three goals in a World Cup final!
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
Mick did pretty well as Ireland boss.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
Going out in a second-round penalty shootout to Spain would be considered heroism by the standards of this Ireland team. Especially with Matt Holland taking yr first penalty.
― Matt DC, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
it was pretty heroic tbf
― Number None, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
and boy did we have a singsong
i don't know what's worse, the "we should be winning every tournament we enter" shite that preceded hodgson, or this new "we're the underdogs and it's a fucking miracle we got out of the group" bollocks.
Aye I'd appreciate a more pragmatic view that says "England should probably get through every world Cup/Euro group and anything beyond a quarter final is a success."
Not a lot of emotional play in a team that merely meets expectations though.
― onimo, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
thats cuz they had a manager in ramsey who had the sangfroid to pick a form player rather than shoving star names into the first xi like that erikson
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
we sang ourselves into the ground.
can we discuss the whole rage about singsongs here? or have we yet? i mean amongst irish people. i feel like irish people saying "our fans are all idiots who only turn up for a singsong" is part of the same deep-seated national identity as our fans getting pissed and having singsongs.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
hodgson is obviated from the same predicament by a lack of stars (-1 thanks to terry)
and i guess hodgson is in england's favour, for being a good sort etc
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
― Matt DC, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:58 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
can i just lament the phrase 'so called' used in this way, it is way commentbox like oooh look at those fancy cunts and where it got them
russia are technically superior to england, by any rational call
they are out cuz they were woefully inferior in every other aspect
it does not follow that the neutral fact of their technical level is itself questionable
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
Similar to Scotland - that is in the period between the biannual drunken pillaging @ Wembley and our current state of wretched obscurity/insignificance
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
But look at them, and where it got them.
― boxall, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
We turned from being rampaging drunken barbarians to cheerful idiots in kilts and Jimmy wigs - angry drunk vs. happy drunk (xp)
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
now stay-at-home drunks, the demon gets you in the end
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
haha
― pandemic, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link