The Bobby Gillespie Bullshit game

Roffle:

So this afternoon I have found out that Bobby Gillespie used to be Altered Images' roadie and that Clare Grogan used to call him "Bobo"

Yes, but until that realisation, he is a spaced out dude, everything is art and nothing's going to touch his world. Your broken leg is beautiful to him. A wound on someone's head is a trancendant statement on the link between the life force in us all, and the galaxy in supernova.

-- mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 September 2006 07:59 (7 months ago)

I don't remember writing that at all. Must have been me though.
― Mark G, Monday, 14 May 2007 09:39 (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

.. which is odd, because today I *do* remember writing that.

Wow, Clare G appears in two unrelated threads today. Nice work.

Bobby Gillespie is always cooler than you. That's a maxim worth remembering, even as you mock him. For instance, you might be in the Sumatran jungle, taking DNA samples from an endangered tapir in order to save it from extinction. But Bobby Gillespie is cooler than you because he's found a way to mimic the way Johnny Thunders did his hair in 1976. Or you might be working in a mobile soup kitchen off the Commercial Road, making a real difference to the lives of the homeless. But Bobby Gillespie is cooler than you because he named his children Wolf and Lux. You might be in Islington risking assault by saving two kids (it turns out their names are Wolf and Lux) from being beaten up by bullies, but Bobby Gillespie is cooler than you because he once modeled for The Gap. You might shudder when you read about Mexican drug barons getting their henchmen to sew human faces on footballs, but Bobby Gillespie is cooler than you because he once read a book by Gilles de Rais, once saw a film by Dario Argento, and thinks faces on footballs are "beautiful".

In fact he's probably going to write a high-energy rock song about it, when he can muster any energy at all.

Amazing.

"You know, everybody was waiting for Rotten's new record after leaving the Pistols. What was it going to be like? And when he came back with the single, Public Image Ltd., it was just like.... Levene's smacked-out, burnt arpeggio guitar.... But more than that, right, it was rock music, but it wasn't rock music like the Pistols or the Clash. It wasn't traditional and that. It was like, it was like a departure. It was, like, a way into the future." --From BBCFour's "Punk Britannia"

"Smacked-out, burnt arpeggio guitar" has to be an all-time Gillespie-ism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY4ZXpsoOUg

"You know, everybody was waiting for Gillespie's new record after giving up his role as Bobo the Roadie in Altered Images. What was it going to be like? And when he came back with Primal Scream., it was just like.... Big Jim Navajo's smacked-bottom, burnt tattie scone guitar.... But more than that, right, it was shite music, but it wasn't shite music like the Pastels or the BMX Bandits. It was traditional and that. It was like, it was like no departure. It was, like, a way into somebody else's past."-- From Grampian TV's "Twee Caledonia"

xpost *2 and yet when he said that, I was all,"that's not an arpeggio, he's thinking of "Poptones"!

quality fake Boaby talking heads in that Serafinowiczy Stones Roses thingo

back Back BACK!!!
http://www.spin.com/articles/primal-scream-kevin-shields-2013-more-love-class-warfare-video

Best part is definitely the Kevin Shields bits, and it's not enough.

Plenty more where that came from I reckon- I'm looking forward to the rest of 2013 being filled with glorious Bobby BS.

devendra channeling bobby:
"I was playing soccer and someone had stepped on this locust. Its guts were all over the field and the sun was hitting them and they were shining. They were neon, almost. Radiant."

I love Bobby Gillespie. He's a bit of a head-the-ball but he's a very intelligent man, and always has something interesting to say.

Aye, right

I was like, “Man, this is the real happening scene.”

http://pitchfork.com/features/5-10-15-20/9204-primal-scream/

Has Boaby's speech been Americanised so readers of Pitchfork can understand him?

my mom = ma maw
highway = a big fuck off road 'n 'at
"I ain’t no fucking drummer" = "... ah'm no' a fuckin drummer, right? Gonny lee' us alane?"
“Man, this is the real happening scene.” = "Ya fuckin' dancin' bear, this is fuckin' magic, know?"
"they gave us a check for £30,000" = "We goat a fuckin' cheque for 30 grand, wid ye credit it?"
"You’re like, “Whoa, here we go!”" = Yer lik', "Here we fuckin' go!"

I wish I was a more dutiful & regular defender of Bobby Gillespie, here, because I am both fond of him & find the reflex ridicule he gets pretty lazy, but: this is the real happening scene is not a weird or terrible thing to say, not an embarrassing IRL Austin Powers moment.it's such a nice piece, too, to hear him talk about Glasgow, & how socially & personally woven music becomes.

yeah but

"I Wan'na Be Like You" is a great song, I can still remember where it is in the movie.

cool yeah that is also not bullshit. does the internet have to discharge its role as sage, better-knowing compressor of enthusiasm, here, or could we give the guy a pass.

Taking it a bit seriously aren't you? Pulling Boab's leg is fun, that's why we do it.

done in a spirit of affection. I'd take wee Boaby doing his thing than bland "we just do what we do and if anyone else likes it it's a bonus" types any day, but I also reserve the right to take the piss out of rock stars talking nonsense.

.it's such a nice piece, too, to hear him talk about Glasgow

You do realise that's possibly bullshit too? He's the boy who named his first son cried Wolf

The man who is tired of Tom D. doing Boaby-speak is tired of ILX.

.it's such a nice piece, too, to hear him talk about Glasgow

You do realise that's possibly bullshit too? He's the boy who named his first son cried Wolf

― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, September 2, 2013 11:55 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not really sure how deeply I'm meant to be interrogating his biography based on this

it is obviously okay if people want to get at Bobby Gillespie interviews; I can see how there are periodically quotes or postures that seem goofy. but ilx is as attentive to lazy, reflexive cultural targeting as it is compulsive in targeting things that go unexamined; it's valuable to recognise that hating comic sans is a weird, transmitted, second-hand prejudice, & that bacon & zombie humour has this sad, commodifiable quality that can fill a gap & be mindlessly syndicated. I am fond of Bobby Gillespie, so I am here in semi-defensive mode, but at the same time it kinda just reminds me of being at school & wanting to have somebody to hate, just as much as you wanted to have somebody to love; I feel like there should be some kind of check on one's appetite for cynicism, even if it's about, you know, Bono, or someone who provides a well from which you can draw & drink & which will never run dry. Bobby Gillespie called one of his kids Lux after Lux out of the Cramps; I am more convinced that he is writ by his love of music than that he is a guy pretentiously & ignorantly wearing it as a badge of pride.

I am more convinced that he is writ by his love of music than that he is a guy pretentiously & ignorantly wearing it as a badge of pride

I think it's probably a little from column a, a little from column b, though I don't think he's igorant.

Lazy Britpop zings are, well, lazy, but Bobby G comes up with such pricelessly entertaining boilerplate rock star silliness that it seems a shame not to make fun of it. And I LIKE Primal Scream!

no, sure, i feel that.

I feel like there should be some kind of check on one's appetite for cynicism, even if it's about, you know, Bono,

woah woah fella

If the lord didn't want us to mock these cunts he wouldn't have given them vocal cords imo

there is only so much time in the day, i feel like at a certain point you are eating into your Concentrating On Good time by concentrating on bad

hating comic sans is a weird, transmitted, second-hand prejudice,

Ban this outrageous troll

all those people have long been disgruntled by this choice of typeface, have always felt singularly defensive of & admired ringo's drumming on rain

http://s3.amazonaws.com/quietus_production/images/articles/19402/primalscream_chaosmosis_RGB_1400_1449511206_crop_550x550.jpeg

lol

My telly must be on the blink, the test card looks awful

Bobbie Crockett

But then again..

http://acerecords.co.uk/images/bobbygpresents_72dpi_1.jpg

.. which presumably is his version of being..

http://cdn.discogs.com/RmEKRB1FnvZNrWuHYGPab-aNSj8=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb()/discogs-images/R-2951942-1308834173.jpeg.jpg

Bobby is obviously an independent intellectual philosophical scholar, he named his album after a Felix Guattari book, (even the though the word Chaosmosis reads like a title of the next Kasabian album)

Chaosmosis: An Ethico-aesthetic Paradigm
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chaosmosis-An-Ethico-aesthetic-Paradigm-Bakhtin/dp/0909952256

The final work by Guattari before his death in 1992, this is a radical and challenging work concerned with the reinvention and resingularisation of subjectivity. It attempts to embody effective change, the short circuiting of signification, and the proliferation of sense necessary to engage with non-discursive, artistic, poetic and pathic intensities. It includes critical reflections on Lacanian psychoanalysis, structuralissm, information theory, postmodernism and the thoughts of Heidegger

"... aye, it's fuckin' the business, ah tell ye... course ah cannae make head nor tail o' it, it might as well be in Swahili, still fuckin' cool title, eh? An' whit aboot that photie o' me keekin' oot through they kinda dangly plastic fuckin' things, jist lik' the fuckin' barbers used tae huv... whit... naw, it's a tribute to fuckin' Sid Viscous, man... he's whit? He's deid? No fuckin' way, since when?"

Is that the actual cover? That's amazing.

01 Trippin' on Your Love
02 (Feeling Like A) Demon Again
03 I Can Change
04 100% or Nothing
05 Private Wars
06 Where the Light Gets In
07 When the Blackout Meets the Fallout
08 Carnival of Fools
09 Golden Rope
10 Autumn in Paradise

I will say those titles give me some sort of hope..

I liked the last one

I ordered that "sunday mornin comin down", already had a lot of the tracks on it but i'm just a sucker for that kind of comp (so and so picks out their favorite tracks) and i liked the track list a lot ... Shame about the cover though

oh man the blurb for this thing though

http://acerecords.co.uk/bobby-gillespie-presents-sunday-mornin-comin-down

old man shouts at clouds: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35724501

Puppet girl singers & boybands, oh diddums

"In the 90s and early 2000s, we could sell hundreds of thousands of art rock albums, but it's not like that anymore."

Art rock, who are ye kidding boaby

also boo fucking hoo, ht should consider himself lucky that he was able to hawk his wares during a time of abundant demand for physical media at inflated prices, not complain that "everything was better in the good old days maaaan"