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The first real punk rock gig I saw was No Means No and The Ex in 1991. Prior to that I had only seen bands at arenas and festivals. And maybe the odd half-baked local band.

It changed my life. What a double bill.

Wrong is an absolute must have record.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 03:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Saw them in Minneapolis last night. Really fantastic on most songs, and Mission-of-Burma transcendent on some, though the longer, newer numbers wore on me except for "Disappear." Could be I was tired, but their energy level never flagged once. I just imagined Rush fans getting into the ones that lost me. They played "I'm So Bored With the U.S.A.," which was cheeky, and ended with the song about "there are only so many songs you can sing with two lungs, two lips, and one tongue..." I bought three CDs.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm going to have to pimp myself for a ride to the Tacoma show, aren't I? (No Seattle show... grrr... well, i guess Tacoma needs its exclusive rock love. I just wish there were overnight buses between Tacoma and Seattle. Also the idea of walking around weird corners of Tacoma at night just.. well, let's not go there.)

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I too ad for some reason never really spent anytime listening to these guys until like a week ago, even though I was familiar w/ the name and they were one of my good friends absolute favorite bands.

They were truly incredible/inspiring last night, such a great show, easily one of the best things I have seen in a long time.

chris besinger (chris besinger), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Just from my perspective, I never even thought of them as hardcore until someone described them as such upthread--they're far too weird and melodic to qualify, at least in my mind. They'd fit in fairly well in the present day, I'd think--a 2-piece, bass-centric, metal-riffy yelly combo with apocolyptic, humorous lyrics. I would say an all-male Sleater-Kinney covering the spirit of Devo with no guitar. Rifftastic and yelly and fantastic. For years I've listened to the records and tried to figure out how they hell they did that. A major influence, and a good one.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link

And, of coure, they're not coming to NYC. Even worse, they're coming to Chicago 2 days before I get there. Grr!

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Why did I not give the stuff from the mid 90s and later a chance? I am a fucking douche!

The Worldhood Of The World (As Such) may very well be their best album! "Humans", "Lost", "Wiggly Worm" (surprisingly an original song, not a Devo cover), "Tuck It Away", "State Of Grace/The Jungle"... dear god! I think i initially shunned this record because it was not as bass heavy as the previous records.. the Hanson Brothers kinda seaped into the sound at the time, which I somehow (what a dumbass I was) was turned off by. Revisiting.. holy shit. I also remember "Lost" as this song called "I Want It All" from this strange bootleg 7" comp called Pop Bus featuring Gray Matter, L7, and Jello Biafra from MANY years before. The song is co-credited to Andy Kerr, so I guess that makes sense.

The Would We Be Alive EP is odd... the title track is the Residents song covered.. good job. "Rise" sounds like the Wrights' omen to Melvins... sort of. The alt. version of "Big Dick" sounds like they want to be Pigbag or Konk! Only percussion and vocals, and of all kinds! The sole reason to get this release, if any.

The Generic Shame EP is alright.. "Sex Is Philosophy" gets a bit too nu-metal/Alice In Chains sounding, thankfully with escapes from that sound often. "No Big Surprise" is a multi-part thing with a great drum solo in the middle... "I Get Up In The Morning" is a NoMeansSkank, most reminiscent of their earliest stuff. alright.

I need to get No One.


donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:56 (eighteen years ago) link

x post
...sorry donut,not to hijack your thread. the mention above of the Young Canadians reminded me of this recent sad news on Jim Bescott.

drone/a/saur (william), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link

:(

donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
hey donut!!!

fyi::

Sun Dec. 11 Nomeansno, Carpenter The Boot Pub,whistler,bc 9pm $5

drone/a/saur (william), Saturday, 22 October 2005 05:04 (eighteen years ago) link

GAAAAAAAAAH $%&$&%(*W%JLKJFDJDLFJLSDJFSDJFSDFSDF

Is this a one-off? Any Vancouver or Victoria show?

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Saturday, 22 October 2005 07:29 (eighteen years ago) link

apparently just a one-off :(

drone/a/saur (william), Saturday, 22 October 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

One hell of a one-off, though. (Why haven't I posted on this thread before?)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 October 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"Hey, Place I Work, I'm feeling *COUGH COUGH* pretty shitty from the weekend.. I think I need to take today (Monday, Dec 12th) off"

And and and and and I've never been to Whistler before!

I think a plan is in order. *grinning hard*

My concern is.. could weather affect one's ability to get from Vancouver to Whistler? Are there public transport options available? I can't imagine there aren't.

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Saturday, 22 October 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Tour dates from the NMN board:

Nov.
wed. 30 NELSON
Dec.
Thu. 01 FERNIE, BC
Fri. 02 EDMONTON
Sat. 03 CALGARY
Sun. 04 BANFF
Mon. 05 Jasper - n/c
Thur. 08 LANGLEY, BC
Fri. 09 VICTORIA,
SAT. 10 TOFINO
Sun. 11 WHISTLER

Øystein (Øystein), Saturday, 22 October 2005 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, well, I guess I'm just going to have visit my cousins in Victoria that Friday.. NOTHING to do with this show.. OF COURSE.

:) :) :) :) :)

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Saturday, 22 October 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

You're going to invite them out for an evening's entertainment with local folk musicians, of course.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 October 2005 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Exactly. "They're older gentlemen who were born with skills in playing jazz, and they have many songs that are poingnant and are sometimes, dare I say, critical of the state of world, but they are a feverous energetic bunch, and they also highly support the sport of hockey in this great country. :) "

Now i just need to call Ditch Records and get the 411 on where the Victoria show is.

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Saturday, 22 October 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Of course, I LOVE YOU Øystein!!!!! :)

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Saturday, 22 October 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

(You have to understand, they did a pretty full u.s. tour last year, but skipped Seattle somehow, and played in Tacoma on a very inconvenient night, instead. :( This is why I'm sooper excited about this... It's been over a decade since I saw them... once in O.C. for the Mr. Happy tour, and the first time in L.A. for the pre-0+2=1 tour, the last tour with Andy, I think)

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Saturday, 22 October 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I like how Shellac-kian this tour is.. "Hey, let's play some shows in the most scenic parts of the Canadian Rockies, the prairies, the island, and the lower mainland B.C., including some kick-ass ski resorts!" Granted, assuming they're doing the NoMeansNo/Hanson Bros. split thing, the timing and season -- hockey and all -- may be far less random after all.

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Saturday, 22 October 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I recently heard this band for the first time...Amazing! For some reason, I never wanted to listen to them (Alt Tentacles has sort of wierd connotations to me maybe) but MAN how great is this band? the next step from the minutemen....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 22 October 2005 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks Øystein ....langley is maybe 15 minutes away from me.....nice!

drone/a/saur (william), Saturday, 22 October 2005 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Double the thanks! It's strange how we have to deploy to different shows just because they're not playing a Vancouver show, and droneasaur and I have different approachs to travel... probably by design! Arrr.

There was also a rumor (and I stress rumor) that the next album will be 50 one-minute songs... or was that 51 minute songs? Anyway.. there's a new album in the works, and these will be debuted at these shows.

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Saturday, 22 October 2005 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Matt, welcome :) you're free to ask about "what to get next" questions if you feel so inclined.

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Saturday, 22 October 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I wanna put in a good word for Dance Of The Headless Bourgeoisie 'cause it hasn't been mentioned yet.

sleeve (sleeve), Sunday, 23 October 2005 06:19 (eighteen years ago) link

So very classic, one of my earliest Peel memories is of him playing all of the first side of Wrong during one show because he just felt it would be rude to turn it off.
My own favourite NMN album is 0+2=1, just an incredible melange of the earlier more abraisive and punky material and the tightly controlled later direction.
Also there is a FANTASTIC song on the compilation Mr Right & Mr Wrong, called 'Widget', it is utterly brilliant and will make your head burst with it's invention and utter groovy-ness, I might have to sort out a YSI, it's so good.

mzui (mzui), Sunday, 23 October 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

As long as you're here Mzui...the Cure fans weep. Well, quietly and calmly. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 October 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, you've just reminded me to send the final tracklists to Josh! Thanks for the prod Ned

mzui (mzui), Sunday, 23 October 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

A CATTLE prod. ;-) I tease. Yay final tracklists!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 October 2005 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
DRONE/O/SAUR!

Some changes to the NoMeansNo dates.. none of which affect you but do affect me. The Victoria date on the 9th has been postponed, and now they're playing Tofino on the 9th, and Cumberland on the 10th, neither of which I can get to without having to take the following Monday off.. and while Tofino is, from what I hear, gorgeous, I'd rather go there in the context of relaxing, as opposed to chasing down a band to see live.

If I was able to make it to Vancouver by the afternoon at the latest on the 8th, would it possible to get a ride to the Langley show?

If you don't want to, by all means, it's no problem. I'm just trying to plan things out here. Why do my favorite bands mess with my life like this by playing out of the way places? it's like that all-Wisconsin tour that Shellac did.

(plurplurplur) ^_- DJ 'O' Nut -_^ (rulprulprulp) (donut), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:35 (eighteen years ago) link

And of course, I would owe you BIGTIME for that favor.. duh. :)

(plurplurplur) ^_- DJ 'O' Nut -_^ (rulprulprulp) (donut), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:36 (eighteen years ago) link

(if it meant having to grab a bus or skytrain eastward to make it convenient, then I have no problems there.. it's just that I think Langley is kinda far from Vancouver as far as transit options go. :/)

(plurplurplur) ^_- DJ 'O' Nut -_^ (rulprulprulp) (donut), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:38 (eighteen years ago) link

argh....really sorry.

...as of right now i doubt i will be able to attend due to work commitments. if anything changes i will let you know as giving you a ride there/back would have been no problem.

drone/a/saur (william), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

No apologies necessary. I'm sorry you have to miss the show. :(

I'd imagine Translink has bus service from Vancouver to Langley. Also, it's no problem if I have to take a cab back. It will be much cheaper than the entire Tofino plan would have been (*if* that's happening... talking to the Tofino Legion booker, he wasn't sure what the deal was.)

I'll be in Vancouver until the afternoon of the 10th though, so there is Fri. Dec 9th.. Don't know what's happening that day, but if you're up for a FAP, I'm for it. I should go sexually harrass contact Shmuel and LeCoq.

(I'm also in town for another Thurs-Sat deal, Nov 24-26, ..seeing Super Furry Animals/Caribou at Dick's on Dicks on U.S. T-day i.e. my escape thereof.)

(plurplurplur) ^_- DJ 'O' Nut -_^ (rulprulprulp) (donut), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

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(plurplurplur) ^_- DJ 'O' Nut -_^ (rulprulprulp) (donut), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I finally bought a NOMEANSNO disc, the People's Choice greatest hits one....really amazing band.

I could see the vox being sorta grating to some people, but if you just lay back and accept it, this is fucking amazing music.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 10 December 2005 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I just saw them live in Langley last night.. I haven't seen them in 12 years, but they were still incredible! Obviously, Rob's not in a condition to pogo around the stage like he was back then, but he's still very intense and precise live.. as is John on the drums and vocals.. Tom as well.

They mainly did new songs.. the new ones are the best ones I've heard in a decade.. back to 3-4 minute ones.. they're like the best elements of Worldhood, No One, and My Game combined.. new album to be recorded in Feb., slated release of album in June.. to be release on an Ipecac related record label. Can't wait!

dali madison's nut (donut), Saturday, 10 December 2005 06:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot the mention the hip-hop group and breakdance posse that opened up at this show.

"When I say No means ya'll say NO"

dali madison's nut (donut), Sunday, 11 December 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

donut du jour :: glad to hear the show was not disappointing! really sorry i missed it but worked a 13 hour day on thursday and had nuthin left :(

good news about them recording again too.

drone/a/saur (william), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 07:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, good news and bad news (for me, in the latter case)

Good: They will be playing the northwest soon.. a bunch of shows in Washington State starting with Seattle on April 1st. They will also be playing more U.S./Canadian dates include those in the east part of North America next September.

Bad: I will be on a plane missing April 1st while I fly to Australia and New Zealand the day before they play that Seattle show.

Maybe: Hopefully they'll decide to do a home show right before.. either in Vancouver or Victoria.. which would be great for both of us!

dali madison's nut (donut), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 07:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot the mention the hip-hop group and breakdance posse that opened up at this show.
"When I say No means ya'll say NO"

OMG!

Okay, I've been liking this NOMEANSNO disc from the start..but now I'm starting to REALLY like it! Even the vox that I thought were kinda annoying at first are now starting to resonate w/me in some wierd way.....I'm starting to get the sinking feeling that these guys are some sort of Zappa/Ween thing for people that like Sweep the Leg Johnny and Shellac....I'm doomed! (in a good way!)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 December 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm starting to get the sinking feeling that these guys are some sort of Zappa/Ween thing for people that like Sweep the Leg Johnny and Shellac

hahahahaha, yes, you're doomed. Just buy all their records now.

sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 03:17 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
so far one date announced at the el corazon in seattle april 1st/06. sorry your gonna miss it donut....but a little bit envious as well [of your trip].

william harris (drone/a/sore), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

huh....just checked the el corazon site and they have nomeansno there on march 31st.

they also list the hanson bros. there on april 29th

william harris (drone/a/sore), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Either way, my plane leaves March 31st afternoon. Good thing I caught the Langley gig! (and there was an INCREDIBLE sound board recording of it, based on the few tracks I heard.)

But I'll be back in time to catch the Hanson Brothers.. during the EMP Pop Conference even!!

Dom iNut (donut), Friday, 6 January 2006 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, they could very well play Vancouver or Victoria on March 30th or before. I would be able to see that show, if one were scheduled. (pleeeeeease god let it happen)

Dom iNut (donut), Friday, 6 January 2006 00:31 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Seattle and Richland WA dates cancelled in April.. BUT...

Three BC shows in February:
2/16 @ Queens - Nanaimo BC
2/17 @ Sugar - Victoria BC
2/18 @ hall show (all ages) - Chilliwack BC

and now MySpace Is Wrong-ed

Dom iNut (donut), Saturday, 28 January 2006 10:47 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
some more nomeansno dates ::

29th June Vancouver Commodore (CD release party with Italian friends ZU) Canada
30th June Tofino The Legion (with ZU) Canada
1st July Lund The gazebo! Outdoor (with Zu) Canada
2nd July Denman Island Town Hall [overnight camping required]


drone/a/sore (drone/a/sore), Sunday, 23 April 2006 03:17 (eighteen years ago) link

ultimate bro music.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 23 April 2006 04:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I’m really looking forward to firming up my Kerr-era NMN collection. I have the two biggies (Wrong & the 2013 reissue of TDEBI&D) but would relish a chance to revisit You Kill Me/Sex Mad and maybe finally get into 0+2=1.

Kicking myself for not having bought every copy of Mama I ever saw, for any price; I could retire at the prices even the 2013 reissues are fetching now. ... hopefully this reissue series will include it, although with NMN you never know. As I recall it’s “quirkier” than the Kerr-era material but I’d be more than willing to give it another shot.

Lucked into a copy of the “Fear Anger Betrayal Hatred” EP recently & I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Very much embryonic, but it has the spirit.

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link

I only own Dance... and Young and Cuddly on CD and 0+2=1 on LP. What I'm really hoping for is an LP of Worldhood that includes everything from the CD....a boy can dream

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 14:50 (three years ago) link

I had also forgotten that I had bought the very slim NMN book “Going Nowhere” a while back, & hadn’t read it. This morning, while looking for something else I’d misplaced, I found it! Serendipitously, as I’m going thru a slight NMN revival at the mo.

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

released 2022: https://sheffieldtapearchive.bandcamp.com/album/nomeansno-live-bradford-1988

StanM, Sunday, 21 August 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

they also have The Fall & Crass & lots of other 80s audience tapes - I don't know about selling them though

StanM, Sunday, 21 August 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

"At long last, after many rumors… we can confirm that the NOMEANSNO catalog will be returning to Alternative Tentacles Records." (just in case that "the return of Nomeansno" got your hopes up - they remain retired)

StanM, Friday, 2 December 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link

i'm still about that. I never came close to completing my Nomeansno collection

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 December 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

Tired
Tired
Tiredowaiting

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 23:52 (ten months ago) link

BIG DICK

sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 23:54 (ten months ago) link

Yes, but Big Dick’s tired of waiting for these reissues.

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 23:56 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

Oral/visual history incoming and funds needed to help get it printed up:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ww3/nomeansno

(Supported stuff from PM Press before, they're legit.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 September 2023 15:58 (seven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

FINALLY

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 13 October 2023 16:04 (six months ago) link

$40 international shipping? Fuck off! I’ll wait till an EU distro gets some.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 13 October 2023 16:50 (six months ago) link


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