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What is essential is "John Cope".

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Monday, 26 January 2004 16:31 (twenty years ago) link

ok ned

i probably wont buy it then if its just outtakes

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 26 January 2004 16:34 (twenty years ago) link

anyone else love "It's Getting late in the Evening"?

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 January 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago) link

Me!

― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Monday, 26 January 2004 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

Me three.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Monday, 26 January 2004 18:58 (twenty years ago) link

am, how is portentousness a bad thing? Not saying you're wrong, I'm just interested in what you mean.

― Clarke B., Monday, 26 January 2004 19:03 (twenty years ago) link

i thought missing pieces was really disappointing, the alternate takes sounded just like the final takes but the fidelity was worse.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:16 (twenty years ago) link

i agree with that.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:16 (twenty years ago) link

Me, too. I wanted more. It's not really worth much.

Did anybody pick up that live record? Somewhat curious about that one...

― Broheems (diamond), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:34 (twenty years ago) link

i wonder if the first long fin killie record will receive this sort of talk talk-esque adulation in 5 years time? it should.

― keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe if it was easier to find? I've been patiently waiting to stumble across a Long Fin Killie album for, oh, five or six years now.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 03:49 (twenty years ago) link

Oh really, Mr. Finney. I can help you there.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 03:51 (twenty years ago) link

Who the fuck are Long Fin Killie and how much do I need to know? I'm assuming the answer is going to be 'lots'.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 09:15 (twenty years ago) link

I hate you. I've just been to Allmusic - Amazon recommended the Bows album to me last week so now I've got to get that and the Long Fin Killie stuff. Bastards bastards bastards all.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 09:33 (twenty years ago) link

I hate loving music. I could, like, go on holiday and shit if I didn't care.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 09:33 (twenty years ago) link

dAMN YOU ALL'; i'VE JUST SPENT £15 ON SECOND-HAND COPIES OF THE FIRST bOWS and capslock shit can't be arsed to retype, yeah, ordered the Bows record too. The one that looks like that Maxwell album.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 09:45 (twenty years ago) link

First Long Fin Killie. Dur.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 09:45 (twenty years ago) link

Nick, I'd guess you'd love the first LFK album and find the other two okayish.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 09:51 (twenty years ago) link

Thank god for that. I can just download 'em then.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 09:55 (twenty years ago) link

Be sure to find the cover version of Madonna's "Angel."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link

I don't get the Long Fin Killie love. The guy's voice grated on me when I tried to listen to them. They are almost nothing like Talk Talk, that is for sure. The Bows records are good, very similar to Locusts' "Morning Light" but also unlike Talk Talk.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

QUESTION: Is the "edit" version of "New Grass" on Missing Pieces any different from the one on Laughing Stock? I sure don't hear anything different about it. You?

The only sucky song on Missing Pieces is the crappy 15-minute piano minimalist crap thing at the end. WITHOUT A DOUBT it is hands down my least favorite Talk Talk song of all time.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 20:32 (twenty years ago) link

eleven months pass...

I just found Missing Pieces for $6US used. I was wondering what it was. Sounds like I paid the right price for it (or maybe slightly more)

― donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah slightly pointless - some of the versions are exactly the same, no?

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link

It's a nice little adjunct, basically. Not exactly the same but certainly close, re-edits or arrangements.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 02:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I recently downloaded two sides of Mark Hollis talking about the making of. A promo, maybe? Makes an interesting companion piece to those old Tape Op articles on the same subject.

― dlp9001, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link

eee gads - i need to hear that!

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 02:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I think that's the interview which can be heard here:

http://users.cybercity.dk/~bcc11425/Real.htm

The description provided is:

"Mark Hollis talks about Laughing Stock (RealMedia) -- Interview with Mark Hollis from Verve promo tape."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Let me also hype up these two Melody Maker articles from late 1991, which I transcribed. ;-)

http://users.cybercity.dk/~bcc11425/IntMM070991.htm

http://users.cybercity.dk/~bcc11425/IntMM261091.htm

The second is a technical interview with both Hollis and Phill Brown, and makes for excellent reading.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

thanks ned!

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 03:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Yez is welcome.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 03:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Did he end up winning the case against EMI over the remix album?

― haitch™ (haitch), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think I've ever heard this! Ned, help me!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 06:25 (nineteen years ago) link

this link http://users.cybercity.dk/~bcc11425/Real.htm ned posted above spencer - in your excitement you skipped right past it!

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I think he means either the original album or Missing Pieces! Which, Spencer my friend, I'll be more than happy to share with ya.

I'm not sure what the result of the court case was, Haitch, but as the various repackagings have continued over time I think that answers that. This said, I don't believe a remix album is currently in print. (Pretty much all you need from the EMI days are -- the first four albums, the A-Sides/B-Sides double disc comp and the Live 1986 disc if you're really obsessed.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahah -- I've just realized that the interview done with Hollis and Brown that I linked to a few posts back was conducted by Cliff Jones! Too bad he didn't ask them something like, "Now, when I eventually form my crap band Gay Dad, should I shoot the drummer before he starts writing anything?"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I listened to Laughingstock for the first time yesterday. I liked it. This is kinda ridiculous, but it reminded me of Xiu Xiu, I guess mainly in the vocals.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link

At last, ILM gives this album the praise it deserves.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link

At last? Read the other Talk Talk thread! We've been going on about this and them since 2001. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link

(Then again perhaps you are being flip, in which case I salute you.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link

(aye-aye, cap'n...)

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

ah, i see!

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Would I like Xiu Xiu then? I've said this to you before, but I always assume that I won't like any of these new bands that have a touch of the avant-garde about them. I guess I assumed that about Animal Collective, though, too, and I like Sung Tongs a lot.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I lost my (burned) copy of Laughing Stock, so I ordered a real one on Amazon a couple weeks ago. Then I worried that I hadn't gotten my brother enough of a Christmas gift, so I gave it to him instead. Which means I have to order it again now. (He will probably now read this and realize I am a schmuck.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

"realize" = "confirm his belief that"

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I've only heard older Xiu Xiu, but you might like it. It's very melodramatic, to the extent that it's a little bit funny, and the music is interesting but pretty.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Where do you go after Laughing Stock? There isn't anywhere, is there? Even the Hollis album isn't quite enough.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 April 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I just listened to Laughing Stock at some considerable volume, cried, shook, stood up and kind of twitched a bit, sat in a crumpled heap, and listened intently. It was rather good. I'm now playing Music For Airports because there's nowhere to go after Laughing Stock, nowhere at all.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 April 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I recommend going to the corner 7-11 for a Slurpee, it'll revive your will to live

― Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 20 April 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

or grab some disco

― Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 20 April 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

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How very random. Nice, though.

― Alex in NYC, Friday, 3 July 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

wow! I need a new copy of that CD as it turns out.

― akm, Friday, 3 July 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

It was mentioned on that other TT thread that not many women were posting on it. Well, if it helps, SoE got me through several hours of labour with my second son. It goes very well with gas and air.

Haven't heard LS, though -- I love love love SofE so will check it out.

― Meg (Meg Busset), Friday, 3 July 2009 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Or you can save it for your next labour? j/k

Like someone else upthread, I love Laughing Stock and Spirit of Eden equally, so enjoy.

― Lostandfound, Friday, 3 July 2009 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

He's stopped making music?

― djh, Saturday, 4 July 2009 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Talk Talk fans, I insist you listen to Movietone's The Blossom Filled Streets. It's like Laughing Stock yet somehow even prettier and dreamier.

― Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 10 April 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.badabingrecords.com/products-page/talk-talk-mark-hollis/

"Laughing Stock" and "Mark Hollis" re-released on LP, next month.

― Mark G, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 09:06 (twelve years ago) link

I spend a fucking fortune (well £80) on my copy of 'Laughing Stock' a few years ago. Will probably pick up the reissue nonetheless. The Mark Hollis album I found second hand for something stupid like £6.

― AnotherDeadHero, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 09:26 (twelve years ago) link

I got a promo CD of the solo album, back when it was (untitled).

I can't remember a thing about it.

― Mark G, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 10:16 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

Shake my head
Turn my face to the floor
Dead for respect
So respect for be born
Lest we forget
Who lay

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

http://thequietus.com/articles/06963-talk-talk-laughing-stock

“There’s no way at the point when we go in (to the studio) that we know what this album will sound like,” Hollis commented in an interview recorded for a promotional cassette by journalist John Pidgeon for Verve around the album’s release. “All you ever know – and this would be true of the previous album – is you just go in knowing what the attitude is you want and that’s it. There’s no way I think you can go wrong on that because there is no right or wrong; the right and wrong is an internal thing.”

Does this cassette exist anywhere online?

― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link

Yup

http://withinwithout.dk/Real.htm

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 23:39 (seven years ago) link

Thank you, Ned!!!

― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

that tectonic bass in “After the Flood”

― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 6 April 2020 13:02 (four years ago) link

I went so long before I even really noticed it was there.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 April 2020 13:10 (four years ago) link

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