Bon Jovi: C/D

bon jovi is also classic for helping break cinderella and skid row - 'slave to the grind' is one of my top 5 records of the late '80s/early '90s hard rock boom.

not true, he's the new love interest on 'ally mcbeal' ...

SILENCE, FOOL. ;-)

No, things are fine, thanks for asking. But music that fills me with hate will always provoke open loathing. ;-)

Nah, gotta disagree. Poison by a country mile here. "Don't want NOTHIN' but a GOOD TIME!"

That said, both bands must be fed to sea serpents at the earliest available opportunity.

A goofy guy no one really liked in my high school was horning in on a discussion about hot women in the music industry. His contribution was Rikki Rocket. After our giggles subsided, we informed him that his beloved Ricki was a man. His response: "Really? Are you sure? Damn. Still, he makes a really hot chick."

From this point on, I couldn't help but look at Poison as That Awful Band With The Hot Shemale Drummer.

Did Poison, though? All time, hands down, greatest quote ever: Rikki Rockett on his band's work: "We don't make art. We make hamburgers." GENIUS.

From the Daily Mirror:

Bon Jovi are offering fans a lot more satisfaction than the Rolling Stones - selling tickets for their gigs from just £12.50. The Livin' On A Prayer rockers have stepped in with their cut-price offer after the Stones announced it would cost from £95 up to £375 to see them on their 50th anniversary tour. But touts are flogging the tickets for thousands. Rob Hallett, Bon Jovi's UK tour promoter from AEG Live, said the band felt that rock fans were being priced out of the market and were determined to act. "I was delighted when they came to me insisting on ticket prices for the Because We Can tour next year that enabled all to attend," Mr. Hallett said. A Bon Jovi source added: "We are in the middle of a recession and that's why the band think £12.50 is perfect."

Only just heard about this
http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/music/2013/08/23/bon_jovi_reportedly_fires_richie_sambora.html

Sambora’s substitute is Canadian Philip Xenidis, also known as Phil X, who filled in for Sambora several times before when he was unavailable. According to sources, Xenidis comes a lot cheaper than Sambora. He is reportedly getting paid a substantially smaller sum of $10,000 per month.

So the guitarist in Bon Jovi, scab or no, is making $120,000 a year? That's pretty pitiful.

I mean, obviously he's not getting the presumably massive guarantee, the cut of merch sales, etc. that full members of the band get, but where does that $120,000 fall on the scale as far as what touring session players at that level normally get?

Dud, and RIP

OK lol

Uh oh, these things always come in threes.

has he had like an underrecognized influence on 00s-10s country or did he just steal shamelessly from some 70s/80s sound, cuz i'm listening to the new chris stapleton and like 25%-33% of the time i feel like i'm almost hearing 'wanted dead or alive' or 'blaze of glory'

They had a country #1 in the mid-00s.

New album coming soon, apparently.
First one without Richie Sambora, apparently.

For some reason I've found it hard to avoid this news today, and it's like "christ, this is going to suck", not to mention I'm surprised that Bon Jovi are still, well, making music in 2016.

the last one didn't have sambora either

as a listener i INFINITELY prefer gnr (or indeed limp bizkit), but then i h8 ballads (ie i guess i am not of the jel persuasion on this thread)

― mark s, Sunday, 10 February 2002 01:00 (14 years ago)

Finally something we agree on :)

well what's jon going to do, work in a body shop?

not to mention all the other people in bon jovi inc.

Marvelous songwriter imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNsgOhIcqNQ

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0sD9kuHi5g/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODLS8IAYs6g

my friends and i were huge into these guys in fifth grade, we had never seen anything like them, such hair, such passion

https://variety.com/2019/music/news/bon-jovi-2020-album-title-1203316056/

The vocal here is shockingly bad. Unless it's something exceptional due to an issue with a monitor or illness (comments suggest otherwise), dude definitely needs to take a break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcsRkmomFTI

I actually saw them in 2010 when my sister wanted to go and while his voice was definitely not what it used to be, he was in tune, sustained notes well, and adjusted the range and keys of songs to fit his aging voice. This is something else.

If it's just that his vocal range has narrowed, he wouldn't sound so bad if he didn't slur the words.

Total dud. I've always despised these guys. The worst of several worlds.

Then you may get some enjoyment from that video!

"Stevie Ray Vaughan is dead, and we can't get Jon Bon Jovi on a helicopter."

Nothing else this guy does is more important to him than money, I think he would tour until he is 90 if he can.

Wasn't sure which thread to post this on, but a decent piece on aging singers, and the various ways they deal with changes in (and damage to) their voice:

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/rock-singers-vocal-changes/

When I saw the Who back in May, I was pretty surprised to hear Daltrey hitting notes that he hadn't been able to hit in 1989 (though he had a stretch of crapulence, most apparent in 2006-2012 or so).

A classic fuckin' dud if ever there were one. They represented a lot of what was wrong with rock music in the 80s and 90s.

Two Bon Jovi threads reactivating at once made me think someone had died.

Such a dud. I grew up on the east coast, and remember when they broke out, and no joke, I heard them so much and they just gave me such a headache I stopped with the radio for a while. And that was me as, like, a 12-year old boy. Not for me.

Daltrey had throat/node surgery that has helped immensely. He also (maybe learned on ILX?) seems to be using the occasional scream sample to make sure he doesn't blow out his voice, but I saw him on a rare solo gig and he sounded pretty good with no noticeable sweetening. (For a time I'm convinced I was one of a very small handful of people that had seen Pete solo, and Roger solo, but never the Who!)

You know who else seems to be doing a lot better? Axl. The first I noticed it was when I saw a clip of him in AC/DC, which is really hard to sing/scream, and he sounded OK. I wouldn't say he sounds great these days, but he's no disaster. I saw some clips of the nostalgia fest at Wrigley Field last week, with Def Leppard, Poison, Motley Crue and Joan Jett, and everyone seemed ... fine. Even Vince Neil, who sounded bad but nowhere near as bad as I've heard him. Maybe because he wasn't singing half the time, lol.

Yeah, Daltrey's surgery made a massive difference -- he sounds FAR better on 2019's WHO than on 2006's Endless Wire. He does use samples live for the screams in "Won't Get Fooled Again" and "Love Reign O'er Me," but he's doing...something during those samples. Some kind of scream, but not one that could stand on its own without the sample. Definitely no autotune live, though (but a little bit on WHO).

I saw Joan Jett in 2015 (opening for the Who) and she sounded perfect. Great band, her voice was as powerful as ever, and it was an all-killer/no-filler set.

Someone I'm curious about is Brian Johnson. I only saw AC/DC once, in 1996, but he (understandably) had a little trouble with the highest notes. I would hope his voice has held up somewhat (though obviously the members of AC/DC didn't think it has, since they replaced him).

The saddest one I ever saw was Lou Gramm, way back in 1999.

Stevie Nicks is another one whose voice is nowhere near as supple as it once was, though it's so distinctive it doesn't matter. Peter Gabriel and Sting both sounded pretty good the last I saw them. McCartney is finally, finally starting to fade a little. Mick Jagger, sounding OK! I once saw Crosby Stills and Nash in the very early '90s, iirc, and I remember them sounding pretty bad. A lot of these acts inevitably fade, but many of them are smart/rich enough to get the voice training they need to carry on.

I'm a little surprised AC/DC didn't tour this summer. Maybe they have a farewell tour planned, assuming any of them are up for it? It's telling that Brian, Cliff and Phil came off the sidelines for the last album. Is that the first AC/DC album they've never toured behind?

I think it is, but it came out in late 2020, and no one was touring (or even planning tours) then. If Phil's in the lineup, I'll go see them.

McCartney is apparently letting backing vocalists do some of the heavier lifting. And Jagger does sound pretty good, but then, live Jagger and studio Jagger were always two very different things. For one, live Jagger didn't always (or often) attempt the higher notes, and there are some songs -- "Rip This Joint" springs to mind -- that they played live in a lower key when the songs were new.

keeper of the flame here: maybe start a new thread about throat surgeries if you are all determined to talk about anyone ~but~ bon jovi lol

If you can't talk about bad singing in the Bon Jovi thread ...

;)

>:(

"Stevie Ray Vaughan is dead, and we can't get Jon Bon Jovi on a helicopter."

your hate only makes me stronger

Did I mention that at the early peak of the pandemic, somewhere around April 2020, when we were more or less sticking around home, I spent one Saturday morning on the front steps with one of my kids blasting "Bad Medicine"? That and "Disco Frog," from the Muppets disco record. Was it for the people out for a sad masked walk? Was it for the joggers or dog walkers? No, it was 100% for me.

lol

Keep: Keep the Faith (song not album), which made my mum a fan for a while.

Though the idea that it stunted their US career, much like Freedom! '90 ostensibly did for GM, suggests that going all Happy Mondays was unwelcome stateside for huge selling late 80s acts (we have to therefore conclude Mysterious Ways is more... Soup Dragons mayb)