what is john terry?

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there's 5 stars in cheryl surely?

sorry i'm tumblr white (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

one at a time tbf

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

why do they still persist with the ludicrous court cartoons?

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

Prosecutor: "You used to play for Arsenal, nobody makes any noise at the Emirates do they?" Cole: "Am I supposed to laugh at that?"

daniel taylor ‏@DTguardian
Cole: "If you're saying Loftus Road is louder than the Emirates I'd say: 'no, it's not."

daniel taylor ‏@DTguardian
Prosecutor: "Ok, let's not have that argument." Cole: "Well, you brought it up."

― r|t|c, Wednesday, July 11, 2012 2:33 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf ashley's shut the door on him/her there quite brilliantly

pandemic, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

there's 5 stars in cheryl surely?

lol

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

From today's Standard:

In a hilarious misunderstanding, Terry was asked to repeat evidence that he had been sent off four times in his career.

“Can you say, please, four times?” asked his QC, George Carter-Stephenson.

“Please, please, please, please,” Terry responded

it's the trial that keeps on giving.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

The sooner the Home Office start uploading courtroom footage to Youtube, the better

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

oh man, laughing to tears over that.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

the footballer appeared confused

pandemic, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

Please, Please, Please, Let Me Get to Be a Cunt

Number None, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

I don't reckon that Terry would ever 'Think!'.

second dullest ILXor since 1929 (snoball), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

result imminent

sorry i'm tumblr white (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 July 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link

Terry could have mistaken the word "Bridge" for "black", said Carter-Stephenson. Or even heard a voice in the Loftus Road crowd say "black" simultaneously with Ferdinand's lip movements.

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 July 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link

you fucking blind cunt
v
you fucking Bridge cunt

“Yes, I love the kinky fuckery." (a hoy hoy), Friday, 13 July 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

Are the QPR fans widely known for randomly shouting out "black!" during games? r/t/c will know for sure.

pandemic, Friday, 13 July 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

The magistrate will not read the whole judgement but some key points

"John Terry is a cunt"

sorry i'm tumblr white (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 July 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link

John Terry has been cleared of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand …

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 July 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link

predictable

Number None, Friday, 13 July 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link

ccdavies: #Terry - nobody has been able to show Terry was lying - Rddle, He is credible
about 1 minute ago

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 July 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

should never have gone to trial

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 July 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

;_;

EBGJNRCJT

sorry i'm tumblr white (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 July 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

i don't get the "nobody can be sure what words he uttered" bit. He admits he said 'black' followed by an insult I thought?

pandemic, Friday, 13 July 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

he can use a different lie now, he's not guilty

sorry i'm tumblr white (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 July 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link

now he probably won't even get an FA ban

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 July 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link

Are the QPR fans widely known for randomly shouting out "black!" during games? r/t/c will know for sure.

― pandemic, Friday, 13 July 2012 14:18 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj84tfS7ag4

only in this sense tbh

r|t|c, Friday, 13 July 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

joking about Terry aside this is a great day for people who want to know "what's wrong with calling somebody a fucking black cunt anyway?"

sorry i'm tumblr white (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 July 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

it's like klats said about the arry tax case, a lolling jury never convicts

r|t|c, Friday, 13 July 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

this is such a load of shit

assumed the cps had incontrovertible video/audio of the incident to take it to court

they didn't, so one of the best criminal silks in london and probably a dozen other lawyers get to spend several months finding the slightest sliver of doubt and acquittal is inevitable

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 July 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link

Waste of time and money, how did the police and CPS ever allowe this go to trial?

SomeTwat from Tring (Tom D.), Friday, 13 July 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

case seems weak but i wonder how many other pisspoor "he say she say" cases end up before magistrates just because

sorry i'm tumblr white (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 July 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

probably a fair result, rly

i read like cookie monster eats (darraghmac), Friday, 13 July 2012 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

Thought this would happen. I think i said before the trial that he was lucky it went down the legal route rather than the FA one.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Friday, 13 July 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

boo

“Yes, I love the kinky fuckery." (a hoy hoy), Friday, 13 July 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

case seems weak but i wonder how many other pisspoor "he say she say" cases end up before magistrates just because

― sorry i'm tumblr white (Noodle Vague), Friday, July 13, 2012 2:39 PM (2 hours ago)

this was heard by a district judge over 5 days

the best justice money can buy &c

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 July 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

please forgive my ignorance, but has Terry been accused of this sort of behavior before?

DX Dx DX (dan m), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

yes.

i read like cookie monster eats (darraghmac), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

but not officially

i read like cookie monster eats (darraghmac), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

2nd para

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 July 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

if only i knew sarcasm can be used as a court defence before i could have robbed a bank

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

that gun was satire!

Rosie 47 (ken c), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

xps thx

DX Dx DX (dan m), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

Oh wow at that Telegraph piece!

I've read the judgment now and it's far from exculpatory in its way. It emphasises how strong the crown case was, even while ultimately deciding the other way. It even declines to endorse the contention that our man is not a racist, which reads kind of weirdly when normally that's the first thing everyone accepts. It makes clear that the standard of proof is the key thing here - unlike with Suarez, where balance-of-probabilities meant the panel had to pick one or the other to believe, and plumped (entirely understandably) for Evra; here the judge more-or-less accepted what everyone had to say, and could only conclude that there was still a reasonable doubt. Which tbf has got to be the right result, because of the key bit being obscured and nobody directly saying what it was.

I guess it's still open to the FA to charge him to the Suarez standard of proof, but I'm assuming that won't happen now.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 July 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

There is then the evidence of the lip readers. Both the lip reader instructed by the prosecution, Susan Whitewood, and the lip reader instructed by the defence, Laraine Callow, are clearly experts in their field. Nobody doubted their expertise. Helpfully they met together before the hearing and prepared a joint expert report. I can summarise the position, I hope not over-simply, in this way. Ms Whitewood is of the opinion that the words spoken by John Terry are “Yeah and I [obstruction] you/ya fucking black cunt (pause) fucking knobhead”. Ms Callow is of the same opinion. However both experts agree that there is the possibility that they are mistaken and in particular that “you/ya” may be “a” or indeed a number of other similar sounds. It is common ground that a lip reader is unable to comment on “tone of voice” or how words are said. In this context the experts cannot say whether the words observed were in a question form. Both experts agreed on the limitations of lip reading spelt out in Appendix 2 of Laraine Callow’s report, with “extremely minor differences”.

nakhchivan, Saturday, 14 July 2012 11:25 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah and I [obstruction] you/ya fucking black cunt (pause) fucking knobhead

nakhchivan, Saturday, 14 July 2012 11:25 (eleven years ago) link

yeahm, but if that word is 'called' then.....

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 July 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link

The Crown Prosecution Service said the acquittal was ‘justice being done’ and insisted there was enough evidence to bring the case to trial.

But one legal source said: ‘It was a high-profile case and no one wants to be the person who signs off a decision to drop it or dispose of it in another way. You could say letting it run to court is the path of least resistance.

‘But it is also the most expensive and a verdict like this leaves no winners.’

nakhchivan, Saturday, 14 July 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

no winners except juytee, his legal team, chelsea fc and chelsea's delightful fans

nakhchivan, Saturday, 14 July 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link


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