the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

lol mitts freaking out http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/romney-cbs-nbc-abc-interviews-bain.php

obama should have mitt arrested would be an interesting fun thing http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/07/life-imitates-the-simpsons.html

I predict Romney inserts his foot into his mouth at least once

i am genuinely curious how hes gonna explain this ceo but not ceo situation

lols via boing boing

http://boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/banecapital.jpg

holy shit that is way bigger than I thought

I think he'll give slick blah blah blah answers about businessmen/ceos and that the networks won't follow-up with tough questions

Obama is so soft on white-collar crime, he granted amnesty to white-collar criminal Mitt Romney. Vote Roseanne for president.

yeah that will happen, but the odds that Romney will say something that yet again demonstrates how rich/out of touch he is are also pretty high. he can't help himself!

what I dont get is how flat footed romneys response has been about all this shit. hes been attacked about bain stuff in EVER SINGLE ELECTION he's ever participated it. how is this sort of stuff a surprise or how they dont have a solid response for every angle I dont know..

but what do those slick answers consist of exactly, its an interesting question his campaign has made exactly no attempt to answer up to now, clearly as mitts going on 3 tvs theyve come up w/something

a clerical error? a leave of absence? time machines?

'bigwig emeritus'

ya i suspect itll be something like that

what I dont get is how flat footed romneys response has been about all this shit. hes been attacked about bain stuff in EVER SINGLE ELECTION he's ever participated it. how is this sort of stuff a surprise or how they dont have a solid response for every angle I dont know..

― johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Friday, July 13, 2012 2:35 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya they seem to be caught in a weird spot between thinking mitts business career is awesome and nothing to be ashamed of and not wanting to release any info abt it

You've got to assume at the very least that the campaign is in a panic over matters of perception (as opposed to any substantive wrong-doing necessarily) if Romney's coming out of his shell in such grand fashion--and on every politician's favourite nothing-to-look-at-here day, Friday afternoon.

What Romney’s career shows, after all, is that once you’re at the top, you can keep being called C.E.O. even if you’re not even working at the company.

From that New Yorker article.

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Every time a group of black people boo Romney, Condoleezza's name will be floated in the veepstakes.

would love to see a pro-choicer on Romney's ticket. right wingers would go nuts.

he already promised to pick a genuine right-to-lifer fwiw

what this whole bain episode is driving home to me is that not once this summer has romney been on the offensive and obama has been driving the news cycle. with the bush admin, rove always seemed to be pimp slapping the dems in the face left and right and they spent their lives coming up with rambling and weak comebacks. all romney has been doing so far has been similar and all he can come up with is 'I know you are but what am I'

Romney campaign has nothing to go on really. They want Romney to sell his "business" expertise without discussing his actual business. They want to go negative against Obama's record while complaining when Obama goes negative etc. they have no narrative to run on. they're fucked.

and on top of that dude is awkward and impersonal

And a robot.

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/12/mitt_romneys_unnecessary_lie/

and still at 47-47 in da polls

no

http://i.imgur.com/cKBZk.jpg

how is he going to work Sarah Palin into this

By linking to Maryaland Governor's assertion that McCain passed on Rmoney for Palin after perusing his tax returns.

and still at 47-47 in da polls

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, July 13, 2012 3:34 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo.com/contests/us-president-12
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

still at 47-47 in da polls

As most political observors have figured out, this election is a referendum on Obama, based largely on how voters feel about their immediate past and immediate prospects.

Romney's just there for the ride and his only job is to stir up those emotions on the negative side. He has a whole lot of assistance from FOX and a host of Republican surrogates. Obama can go both positive and negative as he tries to enagage the voters's emotions. Romney has no incentive to go positive.

The New Yorker article suggests that 'ceo and not ceo' is going to be reasonably easy, but the "not ceo but paid $100,000 a year" might be otherwise.

it's so great how Romney's desperation to be Prez couldn't overtake his desire to be as rich as humanly possible

I think Aimless has it right, which is why I haven't put much faith in these minor poll advantages for Obama. (The electoral map looks more promising, but the one tends to catch up with the other anyway.) The precariousness of the economy, and the two or three jobs reports left before the election, would still seem to be what will ultimately determine the outcome, as much as I might wish otherwise.

(Obviously this post not aimed at Morbius or anyone hoping Obama loses...or just reverse everything: "The electoral map looks less promising," etc.)

election as referendum on the incumbent is a gross over simplification, the opponent matters

How Bain issues get discussed on Fox:

When Williams went after Romney on the issue of offshore accounts, Sununu brushed it aside and claimed over 90 percent of Democrats in Congress have them too, and so they're hypocrites for bashing Romney for it.

Hannity backed up Sununu's point by citing several Democrats who have offshore accounts, but Williams rebutted this point by saying "they're not running for president!"

limousine liberals are hypocrites, elect the limousine eh fuck it

“What kind of president would have a campaign that says something like that about the nominee of another party?” Romney said.

i knew he wouldnt be able to handle our chicago thug politics fellas high5

prefer to use "drone liberals" nowadays

you're such a riot

In news from parties that actually believe in things, it's Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala as the Green ticket:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/post/update-cheri-honkala--not-roseanne-barr--picked-for-green-party-vp-nominee/2012/07/11/gJQAxDMfdW_blog.html

I'll tell you what, Morbs - if Ohio is in any way considered "safe" for Obama a week before election day, I'll vote Green just for you.

if people joined the green party, it wouldn't get to believe in things anymore

oh youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

i'm not currently planning to vote for president btw

I would honestly suggest you vote green party, you have no reason not to

not that it, or anything, really matters, but why not, you're in ny

if people joined the green party, it wouldn't get to believe in things anymore

Good premise for a movie.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VZaVT03Q2G0/SJhKuVNdy_I/AAAAAAAACec/udoIyY9moVI/s400/thecandidate2.jpg

i need to see evidence the GP is expanding the audience for their message, which the Nader campaigns fumbled.

you are cynical, iatee. For about 40 years, the Democratic Party believed in things (relative to now) and won elections.