the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

Here's the clip: go to the six-minute mark.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec12/politicalwrap_07-13.html

watching mitt on cnn, i had a lil nathan thurm flashback on occasion

obama should run an ad where theres the clip of mitt demanding an apology they they cut to a bunch of diff people from all walks of life one at a time going 'awwwwww' and making mocking sadface then at the end it cuts to obama and he goes 'awwwww'

― lag∞n, Saturday, July 14, 2012 9:19 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao at this

On the day after Romney took over the Winter Olympics, the Boston Herald reported that “Romney said he will stay on as a part-timer with Bain, providing input on investment and key personnel decisions.”

http://bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/07/13/evidence-mounts-mitt-romney-continuing-ties-bain-after/w9vGMpkCKg1GaYdaU8l8GL/story.html

i like how a lot of the boston globes reporting on this is just them reading old issues of the boston globe

or reading the boston herald as it were

people are going to look back at this period when he wouldnt release his tax returns and everyone was making fun of him for it and say 'the election was lost here' - it may not be technically true but thats what theyre going to say

this is correct I think - "You get two years of my tax returns & I filed an extension on one so I'll get that to you later" is a really clumsy misread on the tone of this stuff, I think

Sully's been going ham over this for the last two days.

Sullivan going ham is something I can't take seriously after the "Sarah Palin wasn't really pregnant!" mess, dude gets a whiff of some scandal heat on somebody he doesn't like & gets all high-school about it

why does anybody read that dude, idgi

otm

Sullivan going ham is something I can't take seriously after the "Sarah Palin wasn't really pregnant!" mess, dude gets a whiff of some scandal heat on somebody he doesn't like & gets all high-school about it

― perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:31 AM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why does anybody read that dude, idgi

― iatee, Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:34 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is why!

• Outsourcing: The Washington Post kicked off a resurgence of Bain-related attacks with a story in June outlining how Bain invested in a number of companies considered “pioneers” of outsourcing. Romney demanded a correction, and his campaign noted that two of the companies in question, ChipPAC and SMTC, were acquired only after Romney’s tenure at Bain had ended. FactCheck.org called ads based on the article an “overreach” in part for the same reason, and claimed a third company, Modus, fell under the same standard since it only offshored jobs after Romney left. Romney’s own signature appears on SEC filings related to ChipPAC in 2001.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/why-the-timing-of-mitt-romneys-bain-exit-matters-a-guide.php

i was just signing papers! i had no idea what was on them!

hey guys a ceo just signs things and takes the profits, he doesn't actually make any major decisions

btw i should be president because i'm a kickass ceo

he should use that excuse for romneycare too, idk it came across my desk i signed it im just a governor ffs

^^haha A+

Just thinking aloud, as the saying goes.

Premise: Mitt Romney and his handlers are geniuses.
Plan: They know that the tax returns are fairly tepid--a few tax shelters, a lot of income, nothing even approaching the worst presently being formulated. So they withhold them for a while, allowing a frenzy to build up in the media and on the other side (and pushing Bain to the side--unless they're linked, as suggested above). Then they release them, late July or early August. Everyone goes, "That's it?" Media turns on Obama, other side looks foolish and starts to panic.

Jill Stein's Green New Deal:

http://www.jillstein.org/text_psou

thing is just the tiny tax rate romney pays on his huge income is bad enough, theres no way for him to have recent tax returns that dont somehow make him look bad xp

yeah i don't see romney playing rope-a-dope better than obama

"i'm going to let myself look like a secretive shifty out-of-touch plutocrat through primary season and then BAM, records drop, and i'll just be a shifty out-of-touch plutocrat with no secrets, and OWN the narrative."

Again, just throwing something out there, and somewhat facetiously ("Premise: Mitt Romney and his handlers are geniuses"). But that's not exactly what I meant. Elemental rule of "narrative": when something turns out not to be as bad as feared/suspected, it tends to go away.

I'm a little confused as to what Romney is actually going to run on when he has to debate and generally make a broader case closer to the election time. He won't run on Massachusetts, it seems, so he was relying on Bain, but if he can't really run with that now, what has he got? The Olympics?

he's white and he's not Obama. that's all he has, and that's all he ever really had.

I think the Bain thing's still the main thing - he's the guy who comes to your company (or your spouse's company, or your friend's company) and six months later there's redundancies. That has to be pretty visceral for a lot of people.

dude's been running for pres for 7 years. one would think that he & his ppl would've seen fit to tend to all the unseemliness wrt taxes, magical IRA's, offshore accounts etc, regardless of how 'legal' they might be. i mean, even BHO quit paling around w/ terrorists before he mounted his campaign

but as someone suggested upthread, i guess Romney's drive to be POTUS doesn't override his desire to be flagrantly wealthy

Read my lips: no new tax returns.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/angry-romney.jpg

(I haven't come across that elsewhere yet, but I suspect it'll be omnipresent very soon.)

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/mitt-romney-at-leisure-12-pictures-from-his-day-o

each of these photos is titled 'thinking abt how to become president'

i love the comments under that story:

Jay Louis · Los Angeles, California
"This is what humans do to appear having fun... I must mimic these recreational rituals since there are cameras nearby..."
Reply · 5 · Like · Follow Post · 21 minutes ago

Peacocks & Lilies
Sore loser. Well, you will be come November.
Reply · Like · 11 minutes ago

http://i50.tinypic.com/6y060i.jpg

pic reinforces my belief that mitt has too many grandkids to successfully be president. you know someday he'd invite all of them to the white house for a visit and they'd just wreck the place, pantsing foreign dignitaries and making prank calls from the red phone while mitt just scratches his head ruefully.

they are not regular children tho, they are mormon children

they would probably all just play hide n go seek and then eat jello

So, this new thirty-second ad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud3mMj0AZZk

Kinda left blue-balled by the fade out on the song tbh

Audacious...They're trying to get inside Romney's head, and, judging by Friday's freak-out, so far it's working. I don't know, though. It all makes me think of some line from Sweet Smell of Success that I can't track down--something Hunsecker says about walking blind without a net underneath.

Watched that ad a few times. It feels like they're dropping the bomb on Romney. When his voice breaks on "America, America" it's napalm in his face.

ha thats so mean using his bad singing

lol

“Every day, President Obama hits a new low. It is sad and shameful that President Obama would mock America the Beautiful,” Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul said. “But sadly, it’s not surprising for the man who launched his presidency with an apology tour. The ‘Uncle Jims’ of our country – as he condescendingly calls middle-class Americans – don’t believe in mocking America the Beautiful and don’t believe in apologizing for America.”

what

uncle jims?

When talking about his plan to extend the Bush tax cuts for people making less than $250,000 a year, Obama blamed the network for contributing to misperceptions of his tax policy as president. He chose “Uncle Jim” as a random example of the average Fox News viewer.

“Uncle Jim, who’s a little stubborn and been watching Fox News, he thinks somehow I raised taxes,” Obama said. “Let’s just be clear — I’ve lowered taxes since I came into office.”

“Uncle Jim, who’s a bit of a dick and been watching Fox News, he thinks somehow I raised taxes,”

maybe google knows?

Uncle Jim's Worm Farm
unclejimswormfarm.com/
Uncle Jim has buy red wigglers, can o worms online and more.

Uncle Jim - Jim Mayer - Rocks!
www.unclejimrocks.com/
Uncle Jim Mayer writes children's music along with being part of Jimmy Buffett's Coral Reefer Band.

Uncle Jim's
www.unclejims.com/
Jan 23, 2005 – We have been sandcarving for about 25 years, mostly on redwood. Recently we have started sandcarving crystal, glass, and ceramic ...

why does obama hate worms, jimmy buffett, and sandcarving

why do you hate singing, Obama?

they really legitimately are going w/"He's making fun of America the Beautiful" tho

the anti-Romney ad is basically the John Kerry waterskiing ad, they must haaaaate this a lot

“Every day, President Obama hits a new low. It is sad and shameful that President Obama would mock America the Beautiful,” Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul said. “But sadly, it’s not surprising for the man who launched his presidency with an apology tour. The ‘Uncle Jims’ of our country – as he condescendingly calls middle-class Americans – don’t believe in mocking America the Beautiful and don’t believe in apologizing for America.”

Michelle Bachmann-esque.

Unmistakable how two of the three Republicans on This Week's panel this morning--Will and Dowd--treated Romney's tax-return stonewall with exasperation bordering on disgust. Dowd suggested it was karma, after Romney used the same tactics to bring down Gingrich and Santorum--and said "There's obviously something there."

Mary Matalin...stayed strong.

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/roundtable-week-politics-16781610

lol will carville and brazile are such amazing characters to watch work, theyre like political muppets or something

stephanopoulos is so plush

matalin is a lil too freaky, dowd has no glow have no idea what hes even doing there

lol dowd prefacing his comment to matalin with 'if there was truth serum in that cup'