the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

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I'm a little confused as to what Romney is actually going to run on when he has to debate and generally make a broader case closer to the election time. He won't run on Massachusetts, it seems, so he was relying on Bain, but if he can't really run with that now, what has he got? The Olympics?

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

he's white and he's not Obama. that's all he has, and that's all he ever really had.

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

I think the Bain thing's still the main thing - he's the guy who comes to your company (or your spouse's company, or your friend's company) and six months later there's redundancies. That has to be pretty visceral for a lot of people.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

dude's been running for pres for 7 years. one would think that he & his ppl would've seen fit to tend to all the unseemliness wrt taxes, magical IRA's, offshore accounts etc, regardless of how 'legal' they might be. i mean, even BHO quit paling around w/ terrorists before he mounted his campaign

but as someone suggested upthread, i guess Romney's drive to be POTUS doesn't override his desire to be flagrantly wealthy

it's smdh time in America (will), Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

Read my lips: no new tax returns.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/angry-romney.jpg

(I haven't come across that elsewhere yet, but I suspect it'll be omnipresent very soon.)

clemenza, Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/mitt-romney-at-leisure-12-pictures-from-his-day-o

each of these photos is titled 'thinking abt how to become president'

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 July 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

i love the comments under that story:

Jay Louis · Los Angeles, California
"This is what humans do to appear having fun... I must mimic these recreational rituals since there are cameras nearby..."
Reply · 5 · Like · Follow Post · 21 minutes ago

Peacocks & Lilies
Sore loser. Well, you will be come November.
Reply · Like · 11 minutes ago

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Saturday, 14 July 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

http://i50.tinypic.com/6y060i.jpg

pic reinforces my belief that mitt has too many grandkids to successfully be president. you know someday he'd invite all of them to the white house for a visit and they'd just wreck the place, pantsing foreign dignitaries and making prank calls from the red phone while mitt just scratches his head ruefully.

deist mountain dew (reddening), Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

they are not regular children tho, they are mormon children

iatee, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:21 (eleven years ago) link

they would probably all just play hide n go seek and then eat jello

iatee, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

So, this new thirty-second ad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud3mMj0AZZk

timellison, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:41 (eleven years ago) link

Kinda left blue-balled by the fade out on the song tbh

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Sunday, 15 July 2012 02:08 (eleven years ago) link

Audacious...They're trying to get inside Romney's head, and, judging by Friday's freak-out, so far it's working. I don't know, though. It all makes me think of some line from Sweet Smell of Success that I can't track down--something Hunsecker says about walking blind without a net underneath.

clemenza, Sunday, 15 July 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

Watched that ad a few times. It feels like they're dropping the bomb on Romney. When his voice breaks on "America, America" it's napalm in his face.

wmlynch, Sunday, 15 July 2012 03:21 (eleven years ago) link

ha thats so mean using his bad singing

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 July 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link

lol

“Every day, President Obama hits a new low. It is sad and shameful that President Obama would mock America the Beautiful,” Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul said. “But sadly, it’s not surprising for the man who launched his presidency with an apology tour. The ‘Uncle Jims’ of our country – as he condescendingly calls middle-class Americans – don’t believe in mocking America the Beautiful and don’t believe in apologizing for America.”

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 03:50 (eleven years ago) link

what

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Sunday, 15 July 2012 03:51 (eleven years ago) link

uncle jims?

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 July 2012 03:59 (eleven years ago) link

When talking about his plan to extend the Bush tax cuts for people making less than $250,000 a year, Obama blamed the network for contributing to misperceptions of his tax policy as president. He chose “Uncle Jim” as a random example of the average Fox News viewer.

“Uncle Jim, who’s a little stubborn and been watching Fox News, he thinks somehow I raised taxes,” Obama said. “Let’s just be clear — I’ve lowered taxes since I came into office.”

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 04:03 (eleven years ago) link

“Uncle Jim, who’s a bit of a dick and been watching Fox News, he thinks somehow I raised taxes,”

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 July 2012 04:04 (eleven years ago) link

maybe google knows?

Uncle Jim's Worm Farm
unclejimswormfarm.com/
Uncle Jim has buy red wigglers, can o worms online and more.

Uncle Jim - Jim Mayer - Rocks!
www.unclejimrocks.com/
Uncle Jim Mayer writes children's music along with being part of Jimmy Buffett's Coral Reefer Band.

Uncle Jim's
www.unclejims.com/
Jan 23, 2005 – We have been sandcarving for about 25 years, mostly on redwood. Recently we have started sandcarving crystal, glass, and ceramic ...

why does obama hate worms, jimmy buffett, and sandcarving

deist mountain dew (reddening), Sunday, 15 July 2012 04:06 (eleven years ago) link

why do you hate singing, Obama?

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 15 July 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link

they really legitimately are going w/"He's making fun of America the Beautiful" tho

the anti-Romney ad is basically the John Kerry waterskiing ad, they must haaaaate this a lot

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 04:13 (eleven years ago) link

“Every day, President Obama hits a new low. It is sad and shameful that President Obama would mock America the Beautiful,” Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul said. “But sadly, it’s not surprising for the man who launched his presidency with an apology tour. The ‘Uncle Jims’ of our country – as he condescendingly calls middle-class Americans – don’t believe in mocking America the Beautiful and don’t believe in apologizing for America.”

Michelle Bachmann-esque.

timellison, Sunday, 15 July 2012 04:16 (eleven years ago) link

Unmistakable how two of the three Republicans on This Week's panel this morning--Will and Dowd--treated Romney's tax-return stonewall with exasperation bordering on disgust. Dowd suggested it was karma, after Romney used the same tactics to bring down Gingrich and Santorum--and said "There's obviously something there."

Mary Matalin...stayed strong.

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/roundtable-week-politics-16781610

clemenza, Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

lol will carville and brazile are such amazing characters to watch work, theyre like political muppets or something

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

stephanopoulos is so plush

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

matalin is a lil too freaky, dowd has no glow have no idea what hes even doing there

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

lol dowd prefacing his comment to matalin with 'if there was truth serum in that cup'

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

maybe he is there 4 zings

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

this "retroactive retirement" thing is hilarious

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

I can't watch Brazile. You don't have to know she worked for Gore in 2000 to smell loserdom.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

at least if romney wins we can trust him to spend any lame-duck period forgetting he's still president

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

I have an unusually high tolerance for these people. Even when James Carville starts speaking in tongues.

clemenza, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

Why does he even want to be president?

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

team romney should really settle for him winding up bob dole and stop trying to establish a new low with this "i am not a crook" talk

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

if they keep this up i wonder if there's going to be another round of "SAVE US, CHRIS CHRISTIE!"

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

though in a most hilarious case scenario, where mitt bails or whatever before the convention, what could even happen? Would Paul get the nom or can some fantasy figure fly in?

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

Earth-2 Romney

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

This would all be very horrible for Romney, except it is mid-July and few people are paying attention apart from the political junkies. Now that O's campaign has launched this line of attack it will play out and die before Labor Day, when the real campaign resumes. New trivialities will arise and stalk the land, obliterating the memory of this one.

Aimless, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

Bill Kristol, meanwhile, is saying that Romney has to get in front of this by a) releasing all his returns, then b) giving a big speech like Obama's Wright speech, but this time about the honor and poetry of amassing personal fortune through investment capital. I know what he's getting at, but that might be the high-wire act of all time.

clemenza, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i'm sorry but when Romney is being told to a) tell all his long-held secrets and b) magically become a great public speaker I think the more likely outcome is for him to eat shit and fail.

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

"My own grandmother once said something snotty about billionaires and I've carried that pain in my heart for decades"

President Keyes, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

Matalin is so tragic in that - she has nothing but very weak talking points to go on

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

i realize it's tempting to say "all this will blow over, it is but july" but Romney was planning to run on being a great businessman and now he's saying he was a businessman only in name. While this is a whimper of a controversy it's also a dismantling of his whole gameplan.

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

he needs to switch from being a rich dude who is always defending his wealth into a get-rich-quick scam artist type

'how to start your own private equity business in five easy steps'

iatee, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

really want Romney to take a heel turn and go full-on birther

it could happen if he gets desperate, let's all think positive thoughts for this

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

"The profound mistake of Bain's outsourcing was not that it spoke about the need to cut operating expenses in our society. It's that it spoke as if operating expenses were static; as if no capital gains had been made..."

(Tempted to follow President Keyes' lead and re-write the whole speech.)

clemenza, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

It's possible that Obama/America will step in it something fierce before the election, but I think that's what it will take for the GOP to be able to really go on the offensive (not that some papers aren't trying to spin "gosh, mr. president, you're so mean!" into an offensive tactic).

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

rahm emanuel had a lovely morning

"As Mitt Romney said once to his own Republican colleagues, stop whining," Emanuel said on ABC's "This Week." "I give him his own advice. Stop whining. If you want to claim Bain Capital as your calling card for the White House, then defend what happened at Bain Capital."

"Give it up about Stephanie Cutter," he said. "Don't worry about that. What are you going to do when the Chinese leader says something or Putin says something. You're going to whine? ... You cannot do that."

"As president of the United States, you can't have a sign on your desk that says 'Gone fishing.' You can't put that on that desk. It's basically, the buck stops there. You can't say to the SEC, 'I was the CEO and chairman and president, but I'm not responsible, I'm not accountable.'"

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link


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