the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

Liberals will probably, for reasons of solidarity or just effectiveness, march against the non-Obama Romney policies first, and save the Obama ones until after their will has been felt on those.

liberals dont march, we prance

hoping all that liberal marching will keep death's door from closing on Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

easy solution: ruth bader ginsborg

Thought the New Yorker piece linked to above was a good round-up. I still think the first two possibilities--extremely high levels of income, more offshore accounts--aren't holding him up; they don't make him look good, but neither will they surprise anyone except those paying no attention whatsoever. The fourth is worse--a very, very low tax rate--but I think he can withstand that too, provided it's somewhere in the range that's already on record (13-15%). (Got a preview of one defense that will be used from Ed Gillespie or somebody on the weekend; he started asking the interviewer if he himself did whatever he could to minimize his taxes, then broadened that out to Obama. Not pretty, but I could see where that might neutralize the issue.) It'd linger in the background. The third, though--politically explosive investments--is my guess as to the problem, if there's indeed something there. Just looking at the medical-waste-disposal company that keeps popping up, if true, surely that would be toxic for Romney with his base. Very rough analogy: athletes who make millions in endorsement deals. Nobody complains much about the money, but they have gotten into some trouble over specific business practices of those companies.

woww http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/07/17/harry-reid-promises-filibuster-reform-if-dems-win-the-election

well that just got me a little more motivated

im skeptical he could get everyone to go along with but its a p amazing shift in sentiment that bodes well

what is/was occupy ????

Most 'liberals' -- I define them as ppl who vote Democrat without holding their nose -- I am acquainted with did not go to any OWS stuff, and think a la Alec Baldwin that OWS should propose legislation, join the Democrats, etc.

Even in breakout groups at OWS events I heard people saying "but of course a Republican Supreme Court would be a disaster."... I'm talking about fuck you, you fucking fuck Obama actions.

ha well isn't the summer campaign basically 'keep the internet people excited'?

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yo when even OWS breakout groups are talking about how a repub supreme court would be worse maybe that's a sign that it's true?

The expression is fuckitybye

no it's a sign we're all fucked, and some grayhaired Obama stan doesn't know what radicalism is.

also that is your biggest foreheadclap post of all time, Mordy

u don't want to become so principled that u start spelling your name in lowercase and join the confederation of states

you guys are doing it wrong

aw c'mon guys President Romney picking a 40 year old version of Scalia to replace Ginsberg would not matter one whit

i just think it's silly. obv it's true that a more fully republican stacked supreme court would be worse for more people in the united states than the current makeup. like self-evidently true i don't even know why you'd need a breakoff OWS group to learn that, and i don't know why once you've learnt that self-evident fact you'd instead complain that the OWS'ers aren't radical enough. u could say that it's true but it's doesn't matter bc x,y,z collapse of civilization anarchy revelation of real in moment of violent resistance etc. of course all those things would make things worse for more people too.

I think where I differ the most from Morbs is that if Romney wins, liberals aren't going to get heard by anybody but other liberals for the foreseeable future, whether they march or not. It didn't matter in '68 and it will matter less so now. If Obama is a hypocrite for talking about change and progress and not delivering, a Romney victory will mean that change isn't coming, no-one cares and the press (and hence, the national ethos) will react accordingly.

aw c'mon guys President Romney picking a 40 year old version of Scalia to replace Ginsberg would not matter one whit

― it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:20 AM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how much is a 'whit'

supreme court appointments was the only reason i voted for gore over nader in 2000 ;_;

goodbye, youthful optimism

I'm not talking about repeating '68. I'm talking about things that will never happen, I gave up in 1984, why the fuck am I on these threads, etc.

because you are a nihilistic political evangelist

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bc you're bored on a tuesday?

when will this Obama-appointed Freedom Court overturn the USA PATRIOT Act and indefinite detention btw?

oh u didn't hear? they did that yesterday

nihilistic political evangelist

"Have you heard the meaningless news?"

The Mehspel...

because you cant understand how two things could be different even tho you dislike them both

they are slightly different, just not worth picking btwn in the long run

sure tell it to all the people killed and maimed in iraq

or in Pakistan?

yeah, i'm not that bored to get back into this argument

its morbs central credo, if youre not going to engage w/it then just ignore him

Morbz no like math

In more mundane inside the beltway patter we get this today from the W. Post's Dana Milbank:

A better strategy would be for Romney to get back in the time machine and eliminate the phrase “retired retroactively” from the record. While in the past, he might also pause long enough to take his dog Seamus off the car roof.

isn't Seamus one of the Romney kids

Romney is the sort of guy who'd name a kid Seamus

"If the president has the inherent authority to eavesdrop on American citizens without a warrant, imprison American citizens on his own declaration, kidnap and torture, then what can’t he do?" - Al Gore, 2006

2006 was a year when Democrats were still willing to ask that question.

isnt that the guy who was no different than george bush

there are good men and women in prison, there are young men and women clearing landmines in the desert, there are kids trying to eat, and then, there is dana milbank

nice dodge, icey

There are good men and women who want to tie a stick of dynamite around Dana Milbank's neck.

Wait wait did Mitt Romney name the family dog after the Pink Floyd song about a dog? Because the implications of that are v.v. important.

Comfortably Rom

Romney is the sort of guy who'd name a kid Seamus

Wait, he's Irish?

nice knowing you guys

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/07/17/bernanke-fed-not-planning-further-action/

Economic data coming out is still all over the chart