the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

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Veto power over campaign staff quotes.... Bam's idol Reagan would be proud! Yesterday's NYT:

The quotations come back redacted, stripped of colorful metaphors, colloquial language and anything even mildly provocative.

They are sent by e-mail from the Obama headquarters in Chicago to reporters who have interviewed campaign officials under one major condition: the press office has veto power over what statements can be quoted and attributed by name....

The Romney campaign insists that journalists interviewing any of Mitt Romney’s five sons agree to use only quotations that are approved by the press office. And Romney advisers almost always require that reporters ask them for the green light on anything from a conversation that they would like to include in an article....

Reporters who have covered the Obama presidency say the quote-approval process fits a pattern by this White House of finding new ways to limit its exposure in the news media. . . . Under President Obama, the insistence on blanket anonymity has grown to new levels.

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/17/inept_stenographers/

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

Presumably, the companies they acquired were worth something. The point is that they assigned values to the risky shares and we don't know whether they did so appropriately.

timellison, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ comparing current media landscape to Reagan era well done old man

xp

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

yeah we dont really know anything xp

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

but that's exactly what Reagan's WH did, Shakes.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

but BUT under the scenario i was talking abt where romney put worthless shares in his ira they were worthless because it was before that company acquired any other companies or raised any money

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

I know they did, and I'm not saying I approve, but it's an apples-to-orange comparison. media sources/cycles/outlets are totally different now. I can't remember the last time I bothered to parse an official White House quote, they're largely irrelevant to understanding what's actually going on.

xp

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

Reagan would die (again) to be able to have the stage-managing capacity as the contemporary Imperial Branch, SMC, and my God are you getting tiresome.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

The Inept Stenographers ft. Feist.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

I have to admit, combined with Morbs' interest in baseball, I always think of the kid on the Flintstones clubbing things with a giant baseball bat, yelling BAM! BAM! when the anti-Obama jibes start rolling

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

my God are you getting tiresome

pot:kettle etc

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

Morbs why do you keep punching yourself in the face

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

2006 was a year when Democrats were still willing to ask that question.

2012 is still a year when Democrats are willing to ask that question! Had Gore taken office, he'd have wiretapped to his heart's content and explained how the reality on the ground called for extraordinary measures, etc. Yr gettin' soft if you think Gore wasn't also an evil villain!

tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

no youre getting it ll wrong he lost and grew a beard

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

Tipper was around for years before that

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

oh, the way Gore acted whenever he was holding office doesn't guarantee to me an obvious deviation from W's path, to answer the Nader Fallacy's eternal obsessives.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

but he could talk a great game from the outside, kinda like a community organizer I remember.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

reminds me of someone else, who could it be...

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

dunno

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

i wonder what happened in the parallel universe where nader won the election

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

let's stick to Our Masters, shall we, not messageboard dickholders like you & me. xp

I wonsder what happened to your sister.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

he took big donations from the anti-seat belt lobby and outlawed them in all new vehicles xp

Mordy, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

heh

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

yeah all of us who voted Green thought he was gonna win! Eat the peanuts outta my shit.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

cool it morbz, i voted for him too!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

Dr Civet

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

but i do kinda wonder wtf a principled, conscientious person would do as pres in the aftermath of 9/11

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

Dr. Poo-Poo Mouth

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

didn't you go away?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

Dr Civet

― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

loll

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ describing Nader as a "principled, conscientious person", lots of principled, conscientious people throw racial comments at people

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ibsP6XN2dIo

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

yeah all of us who voted Green thought he was gonna win! Eat the peanuts outta my shit.

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:41 PM (5 minutes ago)

this is the best post

tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

only possible bcz I recently rewatched Full Metal Jacket

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

oh god, I remembered being O_O and rolling my eyes at that video DJP just linked

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

But a guy's 50-year career is not nec represented by one of his worst public moments.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

i really dislike nader for reasons having nothing to do with him stealing the election from gore and fellating GWB

Mordy, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

Nader would have personally stabbed Osama Bin Laden in the face iirc

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

nader would've invited bin laden to have beers with him in white house

Mordy, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

only a real man like GWB SUPERBAMA could personally* strangle the life out of OBL's neck

*yeah, i said it

Mordy, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/ralph-nader-tal.html

There's only one thing different about Barack Obama when it comes to being a Democratic presidential candidate. He's half African-American. Whether that will make any difference, I don't know. I haven't heard him have a strong crackdown on economic exploitation in the ghettos. Payday loans, predatory lending, asbestos, lead. What's keeping him from doing that? Is it because he wants to talk white? He doesn't want to appear like Jesse Jackson? We'll see all that play out in the next few months and if he gets elected afterwards.

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

I forgot that the 2000 election was Gore's personal property.

fellating GWB

I'd ask for clarification but I so don't fucking want it.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

it was america's property, and nader stole it from america bc he's a bastard

Mordy, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Damn him for flying in all those Latvians to vote for him

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

who you hate doesn't interest me; you like Cole Hamels.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

i'm glad you've come around on nader. fuck him.

Mordy, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

“The president’s looking around for someone to blame, and recently, I became the reason for all the problems,” Romney said. “I was surprised, my family and me, but he’s always looking for someone out there: ATM machines, tsunamis, China, Europe. It’s always something.”

is this some winger code I am not aware of? atm machines?

johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

I often look to blame things on automated teller machine machines

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

AIN'T NOTHIN WRONG WITH TSUNAMIS OBAMA

, Blogger (schlump), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

shit did romney invest in tsunamis?

da croupier, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

barack obama: half african, but not black enough for ralph nader

contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link


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